OBEX Transfer
Can someone please tell me WHY Verizon restricts OBEX transfer via BT on their phones and Cingular DOESN'T??
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That response speaks volumes about you, as well as the company. Does anyone have a reasonable explanation?
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What...you didn't understand the answer?
Get It Now is a revenue stream for VZW. If you could easily transfer song/ringtones/music from your friends phone-who got it from their friends phone and so on, no one is making money in that process.
I guess it speaks volumes about you.
Get It Now is a revenue stream for VZW. If you could easily transfer song/ringtones/music from your friends phone-who got it from their friends phone and so on, no one is making money in that process.
I guess it speaks volumes about you.
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No, I guess it speaks volumes about Cingular and them letting their customers do that.
You say - "Because they can"...which is CRAP.
You say - "Because they can"...which is CRAP.
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In your opinion it's "crap". Apparently in VZW's opinion it is not. Besides, some of the newer equipment is allowing some OBEX...
Once again, "Because the can" is really what's going on. You many not like it and have a choice to use another carrier. VZW is a porofit making business, not a charity.
Once again, "Because the can" is really what's going on. You many not like it and have a choice to use another carrier. VZW is a porofit making business, not a charity.
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I must have missed the headline where Cingular is a charity and not a profit making business. Could you show me that link please?
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maybe we should look at which company makes more profit on less customers....
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Like lapdog said, a lot of the newer phones are easing up on OBEX for pictures and vids, but still lock down user purchased sounds/ringtones/games.
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Like lapdog said, a lot of the newer phones are easing up on OBEX for pictures and vids, but still lock down user purchased sounds/ringtones/games.
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User purchased sounds/ringtones/games are understandable. Cingular locks those as well. And they should.
They make more profit because they charge more for things Cingular doesn't. đŗ
Verizon has eased up on OBEX on which phones? And dont you think its about time they did??
They make more profit because they charge more for things Cingular doesn't. đŗ
Verizon has eased up on OBEX on which phones? And dont you think its about time they did??
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the LG 8600 isn't a brand new phone troll. It has OBEX for your videos and images and the such and has been available for quite some time. Way to be a true troll with your lack of knowledge.
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Why are you even asking this question here? You should know by now that the people in here are brain washed in their carrier's naziness
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I've NEVER come over here to post anything deragotory, but it gets old that they come in our forum with nothing but opinionated flaming...so I decided to come in here with some FACTUAL flaming đ and they cant rebutt it with anything intelligent...all they can say is "Because we can" or "Verizon isnt a charity"...they got crappy phones and crappy policies yet they think they are the shiznit. Is it hard to see why SE doesn't make any phones for them, and you're lucky to find a Nokia in the house? It surely isn't coincedental. I've said enough and proven my point. When they start allowing OBEX and come up with something that can compete with my 3.2MP Cybershot w/AF phone then I will be impressed. Time to go back home to my Cingular forum. Cy...
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Let them be man! We both know that there's only ONE thing they could never get to HAVE or to EXPERIENCE, and that is a Sony Ericsson Walkman phone (or in your case the K series) Oh man! How is that 3.2 Cyber Shot camera working for you? Full BT, Unlocked/debranded phone, I bet you can set songs in your playlist as ringtones (which is the only thing I wish I could do on my Cingular branded W810i) Don't let the haters piss you off in here. They just don't know what a real phone is. That's why they hate! Their Vz phones and their UI have a subliminal encoded message set up that makes them love everything about it... It's a lost cause. There's no way out for them. We lost them!
In the mean time; we are free and get to enjoy our phones. BTW fee...
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In the mean time; we are free and get to enjoy our phones. BTW fee...
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I really haven't tried to set full songs as ringtones. I make my own on my pc...download the full song off the net, cut my desired 30 seconds I want as my ringtone, and then BLUETOOTH (there's that OBEX feature I love with my carrier) over to my phone. I am not sure which pics you want, but if you will remind me, I will gladly send them. The Xenon flash on this phone is UNREAL. I didnt see any Verizon phones with 3.2MP Cybershot with Xenon flash, 3.2MP Carl Zeiss ala Nokia N73 or 5.0MP Carl Zeiss ala Nokia N95 anywhere that I've looked. I must have overlooked them, because surely their phones are as nice as what we can use with Cingular. đ¤Ŗ
Anyway, hit me with what pics you were asking about and I will gladly send them.
Anyway, hit me with what pics you were asking about and I will gladly send them.
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I really haven't tried to set full songs as ringtones. I make my own on my pc...download the full song off the net, cut my desired 30 seconds I want as my ringtone, and then BLUETOOTH (there's that OBEX feature I love with my carrier) over to my phone. I am not sure which pics you want, but if you will remind me, I will gladly send them. The Xenon flash on this phone is UNREAL. I didnt see any Verizon phones with 3.2MP Cybershot with Xenon flash, 3.2MP Carl Zeiss ala Nokia N73 or 5.0MP Carl Zeiss ala Nokia N95 anywhere that I've looked. I must have overlooked them, because surely their phones are as nice as what we can use with Cingular. đ¤Ŗ
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LOL!! Anyway, here is my flickr page. There are some pics taken with my K790a as well as my W810. Be sure to click on the pictures and then click where it says full size pic or something like that, to see the actual photo. Let me know what you think.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kens-pictures/ »
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kens-pictures/ »
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They dont come cheap. Unlocked phones never do. I dont recommend EBAY for a purchase of this magnitude (I didnt). www.sonystyle.com and that way you get a full 1 year manufacturers warranty and 30 day return policy with no questions. Sonyericsson.com wanted a full $100 more than Sonystyle. Which pic caught your eye the most??
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You're old enough to have a 19 y/o daughter but you're in here acting like a teenager yourself? Nice, go back to your Cingular forum. Have a nice day, hope your daughter is more mature when she's your age...
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Yeah, never grow up is my motto đ I will gladly stay out of here. Verizon needs to stay out of our forum too, how about that? If you go back to the orginal message in this thread, you will see where I said it was my first time over here. I got tired of seeing Pro Verizon people coming into Cingular's forum trying to start a war. All I did was come over here asking a few simple questions.
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well you can still do obex files easily on some phones from verizon. the others, you just have to dig a little deeper and it can be done. just like all you're little cingular and t mobile phones. just gotta know what you're doing.
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Aight hotshot đ, what kinda phone do you have and does it support OBEX? Can you tether your pc/laptop to it and get online?? Anxiously awaiting your reply.
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well i have several phones. two phones that will easily work with what you're trying to accomplish is the lg-vx8600 and 8700. just have to download bitpim software and select the right com ports and you're good to go! and yes you can do it to tether.
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well sorry everything in life isn't easy and simple to do. it's easy for some, and obviously a hassle for others.
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I think Icy's and Anxio's post was about sony ericsson phones, more than hacking your carrier's phones. I mean, honestly, why go thru all that? My sony ericsson phone does all I want it to do... Even sometimes while I'm multitasking on it and I feel like the phone is getting somewhat confused, instead of just crashing or rebooting, my phone gives me options, as in go back or stop whatever I'm doing. No other phone I ever used did this. Sometimes I feel like my phone has a mind of its own... đŗ It's weird! It's like it's guessing what I'm trying to do! I love my phone!
I'm with those guys. Sony makes the best phones in the world. HANDS DOWN! đ
I'm with those guys. Sony makes the best phones in the world. HANDS DOWN! đ
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i'm not arguing the fact that sony has good phones. i'm just saying be sure what you're saying is true before you say it.
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Because Verizon wants money. Please keep in mind that Cingular has it's own problems.
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Dolt?? You have ONE phone that you can do OBEX with?? WOW I'm impressed. Oh, define "quite some time".
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Icyhot said:
Dolt?? You have ONE phone that you can do OBEX with?? WOW I'm impressed. Oh, define "quite some time".
All VZW PDAs are Obex enabled, and the LG 8600 has been out for 6 months.
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Well I've been tethering and doing OBEX for roughly 4 YEARS, so way to finally join the party Verizon!!
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Its-The-Network said:
WOW you're so cool for doing that for 4 years đ đ đ
As a matter of fact, YES! That's cool. I bet that you didn't know what tethering was until last month....
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Ok Eraser, you're cracking me up over here. Be easy on the poor Verizon people.
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Icyhot said:
Well I've been tethering and doing OBEX for roughly 4 YEARS, so way to finally join the party Verizon!!
Tethering on Edge? I'll pass đ
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You couldn't do it on ANYTHING so EDGE is better than NOTHING. Get the point?? And its not just tethering. Its full OBEX. Something that apparently you're just now beggining to experience with Verizon.
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LG's
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Moto RAZR Maxx
There maybe more. As for SE phone do they make ANY CDMA phone anymore? Nope. They aren't black balling Verizon.... they are just making GSM only
EnV 9900
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8700
Moto RAZR Maxx
There maybe more. As for SE phone do they make ANY CDMA phone anymore? Nope. They aren't black balling Verizon.... they are just making GSM only
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9900 and 8600 aren't too liberated. The KRZR and SLVR can do OBEX with pics & vids. The Q and 700p are fully OBEX operable.
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I would rather have a phone that can make a receive phone calls than a phone that can transfer things via bluetooth. Cingular doesn't work where I live. There are more important things to cell phones than OBEX transfer. đ
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Cingular works perfect where I live, so if the choice is between Cingular and Verizon, its a no brainer. Oh, what time does Verizon's nights and weekends start....??
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Ouch. Ok, thanks. I like mine starting at 7. I guess Verizon will eventually catch up with us in that department soon.
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They're too busy putting money into expanding their coverage. Maybe if Cingular did that, I could use Cingular's service. Sadly, they don't have any interest in moving into my state. âšī¸ Until then, Cingular is completely worthless.
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Awwww, I'm sorry. They have great coverage in my state, as well as ALL the states around me.
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Some carriers work better than others in certain areas. I'm with Verizon for 2 main reasons. Coverage and customer service, both of which are better than Cingular. I use about 100 minutes a month, and I could care less if my phone has the capability to record videos or play music as ringtones. Give me a phone that will make a phone call, and I'm happy. Verizon delivers. Cingular doesn't. That's all it boils down to. Until Cingular can get its act together and get coverage in populated areas (there is a state university in my town, why don't they cover here?), they will never appeal to someone like me.
You can have your OBEX, rollover, early night and weekend times, and whatever else you want. As far as I'm concerned, you have a ...
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You can have your OBEX, rollover, early night and weekend times, and whatever else you want. As far as I'm concerned, you have a ...
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But I dont live my life based on what concerns you đ
I LMFAO @ you saying Cingular doesn't have coverage in populated areas. If you say Verizons coverage area is LARGER than Cingulars, yet we have MORE customers....then you may as well say for every square mile of coverage for our respective carriers, Cingular is more concentrated. And I would take that as a sign that more people like Cingular (aside from the fact we have more customers).
I LMFAO @ you saying Cingular doesn't have coverage in populated areas. If you say Verizons coverage area is LARGER than Cingulars, yet we have MORE customers....then you may as well say for every square mile of coverage for our respective carriers, Cingular is more concentrated. And I would take that as a sign that more people like Cingular (aside from the fact we have more customers).
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Icyhot said:
But I dont live my life based on what concerns you đ
Take this message, read it, and apply it to what you're doing in these forums. The people here have Verizon for their own personal reasons. I don't care that Cingular has more customers. They don't in my area. I don't care about OBEX or any of the other things that a paperweight might give me. Kindly take your Cingular cheerleading elsewhere. Do you cheer about your gas company too? I'm just curious.
By the way, Cingular may have coverage in larger cities. That's fine. That's where most of their customer base is. I mentioned not having coverage in populated areas because it's a stupid business move on their part not to cover to...
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I just get VERY annoyed and tired of Verizon morons coming to our Cingular forum and trying to stir up crap, so I figured for once, I would return the favor.
There may be a reason much bigger than you or I could possibly know as to why they dont have coverage in your state. So dont broadly term it as a stupid business move unless you know all the details.
There may be a reason much bigger than you or I could possibly know as to why they dont have coverage in your state. So dont broadly term it as a stupid business move unless you know all the details.
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Icyhot said:
I just get VERY annoyed and tired of Verizon morons coming to our Cingular forum and trying to stir up crap, so I figured for once, I would return the favor.
Great, so that makes you a Cingular Moron coming into the Verion forum and trying to stir up crap. Way to keep the cycle going. I'm glad you found your place in life.
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Yep. I'd finally had enough. Had to lower myself to your standards. Sad, but true.
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You don't see me in the Cingy forums, but good luck with the trolling, it seems to work for you.
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Icyhot said:
There may be a reason much bigger than you or I could possibly know as to why they dont have coverage in your state. So dont broadly term it as a stupid business move unless you know all the details.
Anything that forces your customers to do business with your main competition is a stupid business move no matter how you look at it. I personally port about 40 students at the beginning of every semester, both at university and the tech school in town. That's one employee out of the 8 Verizon stores we have in town. Multiply that over a five year span, and you're looking at a pretty good chunk of change that Cingular is literally giving to Verizon.
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"For once you would return the favor?"
I think that it has been done plenty of times before by some of the same people that have commented in this discussion.
I think that it has been done plenty of times before by some of the same people that have commented in this discussion.
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robtheman said:
Some carriers work better than others in certain areas. I'm with Verizon for 2 main reasons. Coverage and customer service, both of which are better than Cingular.
If Cingular doesn't work in your area, and you've never had cingular. How can you compare or say that Cingular's CS is not as 'good' as....
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the_eraser said:robtheman said:
Some carriers work better than others in certain areas. I'm with Verizon for 2 main reasons. Coverage and customer service, both of which are better than Cingular.
If Cingular doesn't work in your area, and you've never had cingular. How can you compare or say that Cingular's CS is not as 'good' as....
I don't know about robtheman, but I've attempted to use Cingular twice. The reception is nowhere near as good as Verizon.
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Whenever people come into my store with a Cingular phone that doesn't work, I have to deal with Cingular customer care. It's a huge pain. I've canceled lines of service for customers of Cingular and Verizon. There are exceptions, but 90% of the time, Verizon is much more helpful and quick.
Cingular usually will not waive the ETF despite the fact that they don't have coverage in my town. That's ridiculous.
I've never had Cingular, but I have to deal with Cingular customer care a lot whenever we get new students in town.
Cingular usually will not waive the ETF despite the fact that they don't have coverage in my town. That's ridiculous.
I've never had Cingular, but I have to deal with Cingular customer care a lot whenever we get new students in town.
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I can't see myself being with somebody else. I'd go to T-Mobile, but their coverage is terrible. I'd never put myself with Cingular or Sprint because of the customer service (although it's unfair to lump Cingular with Sprint. Sprint is really, really awful).
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If I did t-mobile, It would be solely for features; nothing else. Verizon has both features and the best reception,& that's why I'm with them. Yes, Sprint's CS is lousy. I had them for 28 days & they were trying to charge me an ETF! Supwidat!
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Cingular's phones have awesome features, but what does that matter if ya can't make a call?
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That's my point. This guy doesn't seem to grasp that there are people that don't give a rat's ass about features on a phone. Ringtones are idiotic. Why anyone would want to share their ringtone with their friends is beyond me.
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I hear ya. I want features; otherwise, I'd get the cheap, basic ones. But if I get features, the phone damn well better work! I won't blame phones with features for messing up because I've had ****ty basic ones too (nokia 3120 & lg c1300 {cingular phones}). But then again, without Cingular's crappy line-up, I wouldn't have a job as a warranty rep.
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Where are you at again Rob?
I remember you went to school in Cody, WY right?
I remember you went to school in Cody, WY right?
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Icyhot,
Verizon locked the BT capability of their phones because of the fact that they wanted their customers to use the text, pix messages to send info out at their per charge fees or have a plan put on the account.
They have made changes to that. The LGVX9900 and the LGVX8600 are fully capable of OBEX. I believe that there are other that may be available as well but I don't carry them. The 9900 came out in October/November and the 8600 was soon after that.
I do not know if they will make all the phones full bluetooth capable with the new releases...
With the change in plans to include unlimited text to everyone, I am not sure...
And yes I do work for a Verizon Indirect Store.
Verizon locked the BT capability of their phones because of the fact that they wanted their customers to use the text, pix messages to send info out at their per charge fees or have a plan put on the account.
They have made changes to that. The LGVX9900 and the LGVX8600 are fully capable of OBEX. I believe that there are other that may be available as well but I don't carry them. The 9900 came out in October/November and the 8600 was soon after that.
I do not know if they will make all the phones full bluetooth capable with the new releases...
With the change in plans to include unlimited text to everyone, I am not sure...
And yes I do work for a Verizon Indirect Store.
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Thank you for the great response. I was just trying to show the difference between Cingular and Verizon in that respect, one wanting to milk the customer and one not.
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Not a problem.
Verizon is slowly changing to make it more even across the board with some items. Maybe they will completely full BT with all phones.
Verizon is slowly changing to make it more even across the board with some items. Maybe they will completely full BT with all phones.
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