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Verizon Wireless adds double the retail customers that AT&T does Q12007

MidnightDT

Apr 30, 2007, 12:15 PM
AT&T 820,000 Retail Adds
VZW 1,600,000 Retail Adds


how bout that?
VZW still #1 in retail customers and the largest mobile to mobile calling community with Unlimited IN calling.
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SystemShock

Apr 30, 2007, 12:25 PM
MidnightDT said:
AT&T 820,000 Retail Adds
VZW 1,600,000 Retail Adds

how bout that?
VZW still #1 in retail customers and the largest mobile to mobile calling community with Unlimited IN calling.

Pretty impressive. Also, there was some other interestin' stuff:

ATT/Cingular wireless revenue: $10.0 billion
VZW wireless rev: $10.3 billion

ATT/Cing ARPU: $49.21
VZW ARPU: $50.73

ATT/Cing total churn: 1.7% (1.3% postpaid only)
VZW total churn: 1.08% (0.89% postpaid only)

And Verizon continues to have more postpaid customers than ATT/Cing too.

ATT does seem to be getting it together, but probably not in time to save #1, unless the 'iPhone effect' does really well for 'em.
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krickt

Apr 30, 2007, 2:02 PM
I still think that the iPhone is going to bite them in the butt. The phone's performance can't possibly live up to the hype, plus, the longer they wait to release, the fewer people will be willing to buy.
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chocolateman85006

Apr 30, 2007, 3:12 PM
Like I said in a prior thread: remember the ROKR?
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sangyup81

Apr 30, 2007, 6:00 PM
It's just VZW doing even better but that should in no way take away from the improvements at&t has made in the last 2 years.
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SystemShock

Apr 30, 2007, 6:37 PM
sangyup81 said:
It's just VZW doing even better but that should in no way take away from the improvements at&t has made in the last 2 years.

I agree that ATT/Cing is improving, but what peeps tend to forget is that the rest of the industry isn't sitting still either- Verizon has been a moving target, and is improving as well.

Which is why "ATT/Cing is doing fine, its just that VZW is doing even better" is something you tend to hear almost every quarter, and prolly will for a long time to come. 😎
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sangyup81

May 1, 2007, 8:48 AM
What about Sprint? Or T-Mobile? I'd say those two are standing still.

You make it sound like it's only at&t and VZW in the national cellular service industry.
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SystemShock

May 1, 2007, 10:59 AM
sangyup81 said:
What about Sprint? Or T-Mobile? I'd say those two are standing still.

What about Alltel? They seem to be improving and doing quite well in this allegedly 'slow' market:

Alltel Sets Records for Wireless Revenues, Operating Income in First Quarter
Date: 4/27/2007 7:01:00 AM

Customer Additions Also Reach New Highs While Churn Falls to Record Lows

LITTLE ROCK, Ark.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--April 27, 2007--Alltel (NYSE: AT) produced double-digit revenue growth and strong customer additions in the first quarter. Alltel reported fully diluted earnings per share under Generally Accepted Accounting Principles (GAAP) of 64 cents and fully diluted earnings per share of 63 cents from curren
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sangyup81

May 1, 2007, 3:49 PM
Alltel is still considered a Regional Carrier
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SystemShock

May 1, 2007, 4:01 PM
sangyup81 said:
Alltel is still considered a Regional Carrier

You mean a 'regional' carrier with a frickin' huge network and over 10 million customers. They're also the fifth biggest carrier. Sorry, I think they still count. 😉

S'okay, Verizon and Alltel aren't slowing down, yet the market is 'slow'? Hm, somehow I ain't buyin' it.
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sangyup81

May 1, 2007, 9:05 PM
If you want to count a carrier that doesn't have a network in NY, DC, LA, SF, Dallas, Houston, Miami, (should I go on?) as a National Carrier then I don't know what to say to you man.
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SystemShock

May 1, 2007, 11:07 PM
So what? Alltel's network covers more square miles than T-Mobile's. Should we stop counting T-M as a national now? 😳
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chocolateman85006

May 1, 2007, 11:20 AM
For the most part, it is.
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foxiangel5

May 1, 2007, 5:10 PM
i was talking to the guys taht work for cingular yesterday and they laughed about the fact that we are cdma...they said that gsm will be the number network and that our phones will be obsolete..
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sangyup81

May 1, 2007, 5:12 PM
CDMA and GSM will both be obsolete when that happens. I wouldn't worry.
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foxiangel5

May 1, 2007, 5:14 PM
huh? so what are they talking about??
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sangyup81

May 1, 2007, 9:06 PM
they're just drinking the cool-aid
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gunny

May 1, 2007, 5:17 PM
nothing any cingular reps says matters
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foxiangel5

May 1, 2007, 5:18 PM
haha
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SystemShock

May 1, 2007, 6:04 PM
gunny said:
nothing any cingular reps says matters

LOL, true dat. Sorry for being so rude gunny, I didn't say hi before.
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chocolateman85006

May 1, 2007, 6:07 PM
Yeah. Unless you give a Cingy rep money, they're like, "Get out ma store, bitch!"
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SystemShock

May 1, 2007, 6:27 PM
Anybody with a 'tude like that should be fired. 🙄

Unfortunately though, it ain't just sales reps being tools, its also the system. "Sell x amount by the end of the month or your fired" is not an incentive for guys to keep it real.

That said, you do meet some good sales reps sometimes.

When my friend's 6256 broke, he went to the VZW store to get his old phone activated. The guy told him he could do it for 20 bucks, but that he should go home and do it online, 'cuz then it's free. Nice info, saved my bro some money.
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chocolateman85006

May 1, 2007, 7:19 PM
It was Cingular's attitude that made me leave them. Alltel's as well.
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gunny

May 1, 2007, 6:17 PM
SystemShock said:
gunny said:
nothing any cingular reps says matters

LOL, true dat. Sorry for being so rude gunny, I didn't say hi before.



hey man back at you, your post are great reading as usual
🙂
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SystemShock

May 1, 2007, 6:21 PM
I try. And right now, I'm putting together a condolence care package for Stan Sigman for when he gets fired, lol. 😎
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gunny

May 1, 2007, 6:24 PM
🤣 I love it when you come around to school the fools!!
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SystemShock

May 1, 2007, 6:30 PM
There don' seem to be as many fools these days, though.

I mean sure, Tex is cranky as ever, but I seem to remember peeps being a lot lot meaner when I first came here.

This place actually got civilized? Whoa. 😳
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SystemShock

May 1, 2007, 6:01 PM
foxiangel5 said:
i was talking to the guys taht work for cingular yesterday and they laughed about the fact that we are cdma...they said that gsm will be the number network and that our phones will be obsolete..

They've been sayin' that for years now. Its something Cing reps say to make themselves feel better 'bout Verizon kicking their butts so often, prolly. File it under 'wishful thinkin'. 😁

Both CDMA and GSM will be replaced eventually by something better, and maybe by the same thing. I don't think anyone on either system has much to worry about, the transition isn't going to happen soon, and when it does happen, it won't be overnight.

I mean, weren't peeps predicting a few years ago that we'd a...
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