What is Motorola's Problem?
Not to tick off anyone, but I hear the exact same thing about Moto everywhere I go: "Beautiful phones, but there's always something wrong with them (durability, bugs)."
WHY does this company seem to consistently shoot itself in the foot? Outside of perhaps only Apple, they seem to have design down better than anyone in the industry. So why cut your own throat the way they seem to do so often? đŗ
WHY does this company seem to consistently shoot itself in the foot? Outside of perhaps only Apple, they seem to have design down better than anyone in the industry. So why cut your own throat the way they seem to do so often? đŗ
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It's the CDMA versions of Motorola phones that suck! I don't know why though... a GSM V3 will give you about 2 more hours of talk time than a V3c or V3m. That's just to point out a few of the differences...
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I've noticed that CDMA drains batteries faster than iDen and GSM. That's just mt experience.
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Yean said:
That's normal for lith ion batteries.
GSM phones have those batteries as well... It's the way CDMA works that makes batteries last less...
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I was talking about the lith ion batteries getting warm. Sorry, I should of explined myself a little more. đ¤
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My old Samsung a650 got scorching hot!
My other phones don't (including TDMA, PDAs, and other CDMAs)
My other phones don't (including TDMA, PDAs, and other CDMAs)
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BeachSlapped said:
It's the CDMA versions of Motorola phones that suck! I don't know why though... a GSM V3 will give you about 2 more hours of talk time than a V3c or V3m. That's just to point out a few of the differences...
Even if that's true, I'm not switchin' to a lower-quality carrier like ATT/Cing to get GSM Motos. And I like CDMA... I have extremely few dropped or garbled calls, unlike my brother did on Cingular/GSM. đĸ
'sides, folks other than Moto do make good CDMA phones. I was just wonderin' why Moto has issues... wasn't really inviting the GSM infomercial, but thanks n e way.
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ps- Sorry if I was harsh, but what I was really curious about is more like what's wrong with Moto's product development, corporate decision-making, testing, priorites, etc. Y'know, the more Business Week/MBA kinda stuff.
I know they were kinda in trouble before Ed Zander became CEO, and that they're still tryin' to turn things around in some ways... the big success of the RAZR apparently masked a lot of flaws they still have as a company, but did not solve them. đ
I know they were kinda in trouble before Ed Zander became CEO, and that they're still tryin' to turn things around in some ways... the big success of the RAZR apparently masked a lot of flaws they still have as a company, but did not solve them. đ
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No problem. I do understand. I think there's a difference between the two. I think (Motorola) GSM phones are made in one factory and CDMA phones are made in another... I come to this conclusion after reading so many differences in quality... Don't you agree?
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Motorola has at least 7 or 8 manufacturing plants around the world. all of which manufacture a mix of motorola products. for example. nextel techs have a serial number decoder that will tell them which plant a phone was manufactured in. phones in any series may be manufactured in many different plants. I mention nextel techs only because i used to be one and have used the serial number decoder.
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exoduz said:
Motorola has at least 7 or 8 manufacturing plants around the world. all of which manufacture a mix of motorola products. for example. nextel techs have a serial number decoder that will tell them which plant a phone was manufactured in. phones in any series may be manufactured in many different plants. I mention nextel techs only because i used to be one and have used the serial number decoder.
Thanks man. Though I have figured out already that anything BeachSlapped has to say ain't reliable. âšī¸
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I just pointed out that GSM phones (in general) have better battery life... Are you so threatened by this to blame me for pointing it out? If CDMA works for you that's great! for me it doesn't... I travel overseas every summer...
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Sorry dude, but judging from some other posts you've made (like tellin' the kid who said he's going on a Verizon plan to get a Sony-Ericsson, even though its GSM-only, i.e. not helpful) it seems like you're more into selling GSM (which means ATT/Cing or T-mobile, usually ATT/Cing) than providing helpful info. âšī¸
If I've misjudged you, my bad, but it is kinda how you come off. If I was an ATT customer and someone told me to get a CDMA phone, I'd be sayin' the same thing.
If I've misjudged you, my bad, but it is kinda how you come off. If I was an ATT customer and someone told me to get a CDMA phone, I'd be sayin' the same thing.
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Gosh, for the millionth time, I'm not a dude! đ¤Ŗ I'm a chick with good cell phone knowledge! Why is it that everyone in here assumes that only guys are phone geeks?
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BeachSlapped said:
Gosh, for the millionth time, I'm not a dude! đ¤Ŗ I'm a chick with good cell phone knowledge! Why is it that everyone in here assumes that only guys are phone geeks?
Hm? Okay, just checked your profile, it says:
I'm a very flirty girl!
GSM rules!
S'okay, you really are a GSM shill, and a chick. I'll use 'dudette' from now on, fair enough? đ
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I can see the discussion here about CDMA vs GSM battery life needs one bit of info.
CDMA gets far fewer dropped calls because the technology does use more power, provides better clarity, and has certain signal multipath benefits.
The result is shorter battery life, but you won't get as many dropped calls, and won't get the gurgling that you get with GSM, which is a variant of TDMA, when in weaker signal areas.
Folks often find they have a perfect connection with no bars above the antenna signal indicator.(CDMA) This is not usually going to happen with GSM though.
You hear the "more bars in more places" (Cingular)tout? That's because to maintain a connection, generally with GSM you HAVE to have more to get a connection. So, they're...
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CDMA gets far fewer dropped calls because the technology does use more power, provides better clarity, and has certain signal multipath benefits.
The result is shorter battery life, but you won't get as many dropped calls, and won't get the gurgling that you get with GSM, which is a variant of TDMA, when in weaker signal areas.
Folks often find they have a perfect connection with no bars above the antenna signal indicator.(CDMA) This is not usually going to happen with GSM though.
You hear the "more bars in more places" (Cingular)tout? That's because to maintain a connection, generally with GSM you HAVE to have more to get a connection. So, they're...
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In my eyes, CDMA is a better technology. If they just put CDMA SIM cards (R-UIM) in Verizon phones I'd be a happy camper.
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if you think that GSM motos dont have tons of problems, maybe you should spend more time reading the AT&T forum instead of trolling here posting lies/misinformation/uselessinformation
There have been many posts in the AT&T forum over the last year from AT&T/Cingular employees saying they wished AT&T/cingular would stop carring motos.
There have been many posts in the AT&T forum over the last year from AT&T/Cingular employees saying they wished AT&T/cingular would stop carring motos.
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Amen, brotha! As a Cingy XBM rep, People call more about the original V3 Razr than anything else!!
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primus said:
if you think that GSM motos dont have tons of problems, maybe you should spend more time reading the AT&T forum instead of trolling here posting lies/misinformation/useless information.
There have been many posts in the AT&T forum over the last year from AT&T/Cingular employees saying they wished AT&T/cingular would stop carring motos.
chocolateman85006 said:
Amen, brotha! As a Cingy XBM rep, People call more about the original V3 Razr than anything else!!
Ah, thought so. Moto has issues in both CDMA and GSM.
Note to self: Stop believing anything BeachSlapped says. đ
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The Q would;ve been fine if I didn't take Videos or check myspace. But since I do, that's a problem because I do use the camera and video, and it froze on me in the middle of a video. I'd got back to it only for the unprohibited Bluettooth and tethering abilities.
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Motos problem is quality control. If you take a look into the history of the company, it has had several periods with quality problems.
It will work itself out, it just takes large companies a long long time to correct quality problems. The main thing is getting the right people to be aware of it, from the large number of returned defective handsets they get, I would assume that someone that needs to know and start the ball rolling to correct the defect problems has been made aware.
It will work itself out, it just takes large companies a long long time to correct quality problems. The main thing is getting the right people to be aware of it, from the large number of returned defective handsets they get, I would assume that someone that needs to know and start the ball rolling to correct the defect problems has been made aware.
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