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Jedi

May 3, 2007, 3:41 PM
do you guys think verizon will ever buy sprint since sprint is losing so many customers?
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TK-421Wireless

May 3, 2007, 3:44 PM
No.
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Yean

May 3, 2007, 3:52 PM
I don't think VZW would buy Sprint. If Sprint were to sell, most likely Comcast would buy out Sprint. Sprint is losing their iDen, not their CDMA.
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nextel18

May 3, 2007, 3:59 PM
No. the regulators would not allow that on a number of levels. Spectrum; they would own excessively much which would force divestitures in the billions of dollars of range. Customers; they would have market share dominance in many areas which would also force divestitures in the billions of dollars of range.

Is it a good idea? Of course. Would it happen? Probably not due to those issues, I mentioned above. The divestitures would outweigh any of the synergies that would take place.

I just want you to be clear that their IDEN is the only one losing customers their CDMA is not.

Verizon needs to focus on buying out Voda’s stake in VZW before Verizon goes after any wireless company.
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dave73

May 3, 2007, 9:47 PM
nextel18 said:
No. the regulators would not allow that on a number of levels. Spectrum; they would own excessively much which would force divestitures in the billions of dollars of range. Customers; they would have market share dominance in many areas which would also force divestitures in the billions of dollars of range.

Is it a good idea? Of course. Would it happen? Probably not due to those issues, I mentioned above. The divestitures would outweigh any of the synergies that would take place.

I just want you to be clear that their IDEN is the only one losing customers their CDMA is not.

Verizon needs to focus on buying out Voda’s stake in VZW before Verizon goes after any wireless company.


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nextel18

May 4, 2007, 7:57 AM
Yea, that is another good point, but many of the affiliates out there are currently under Sprint’s wing when they purchased them, however, there still are a few who are not which could pose problems. Yes, Verizon does have affiliates but not the extent that Sprint has. It might get expensive for the remaining purchases of the affiliates who are not under the Sprint’s wing but there would be major synergies so that would perhaps lower that cost.
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NoanswersonlyQs

May 4, 2007, 9:53 AM
I think the only way VZW is getting Voda out of ownership intrest is if they pry it out of voda's cold dead hands
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nextel18

May 4, 2007, 10:09 AM
It is necessary for Verizon Communications to acquire 100% of VZW because they are only seeking 55% of all revenues and net income from the company and Voda is getting the other 45%. It is more important now that AT&T has now 100% control over Cingular.

It will get very expensive for Verizon Communications to acquire the 45% of Voda’s stake of Verizon Wireless. As a $2300 modest valuation for Verizon Wireless per subscriber values the company at 60.7 million customers of $139.6B. Therefore, 55% that Verizon Comm. owns is valued at $76.8B, which means that Voda’s 45% stake is worth $62.8B. Therefore, as you can see Verizon needs to come up with that money to try to lure Voda and I think they will as Voda is struggling with its other geogra...
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primus

May 4, 2007, 1:52 AM
Verizon wouldnt want to buy sprint, they might be willing to take some of sprints spectrum off their hands though if the FCC would allow the sale of it ;)
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Keovani

May 4, 2007, 9:04 AM
Sprint needs to loose Nextel iden Concentrate on WiMax. WiMax is the only thing that can pull sprint out the hole. Sprint was known for innovative cellphones..now its known for its dataplans. SO why not concentrate on making that better and loose the dead weight. It was a dumb acquisition in the first place. And now it shows in the numbers. Everyone knew a hybrid network(Iden/CDMA wouldnt work..!

Even BoyGenius agrees
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/05/03/sprint-nex ... »
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SystemShock

May 4, 2007, 12:19 PM
Yeah, Sprint's in a lot of trouble. We make fun of ATT/Cing's churn sometimes, but Sprint-Nextel's is much higher, at 2.3(!) T hey have 3.6 million customers a QUARTER walk on them. That makes the business so much more costly, an' on top of that, its like they're trying to do a dozen different big things at once. ☹️

They took a good first step in controlling churn by startin' to tighten up on their (used to be lax) credit rules, but that's gonna hurt their adds as well. And their adds suck right now.

Not ta say they won't eventually ride it out, but they're gonna be on their back for a LONG time, prolly longer than Cingular was after the ATTW merger. And ta think some peeps were predicting that this was gonna be a fairly easy merger....
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gunny

May 4, 2007, 12:41 PM
SystemShock said:
Yeah, Sprint's in a lot of trouble. We make fun of ATT/Cing's churn sometimes, but Sprint-Nextel's is much higher, at 2.3(!) T hey have 3.6 million customers a QUARTER walk on them. That makes the business so much more costly, an' on top of that, its like they're trying to do a dozen different big things at once. ☹️

They took a good first step in controlling churn by startin' to tighten up on their (used to be lax) credit rules, but that's gonna hurt their adds as well. And their adds suck right now.

Not ta say they won't eventually ride it out, but they're gonna be on their back for a LONG time, prolly longer than Cingular was after the ATTW merger. And ta think some peeps were predicting that t
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SystemShock

May 4, 2007, 12:55 PM
gunny said:
3.6 million peeps walking ,I knew sprint sucked but damn LOL

Yeah, churn is a really important an' under-appreciated metric. It tremendously affects your costs and your net adds, and prolly your company's reputation too.

Mebbe if they called it the 'customers running out the door screaming' rate, then it'd get its due. 🤣
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Keovani

May 4, 2007, 1:03 PM
Sprints hurting right now..but just wait when the wimax rolls out..and all the new 4g handsets start rolling in overshadowing your iphones or prada phones...people will be running right back to get a piece of that unlimited data plan and cheap rates...hoping they don't jack it up for wimax.
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SystemShock

May 4, 2007, 1:12 PM
Yeah but, Wimax won't be widely deployed for a long time though. I hear 2009-2010 is about the earliest?

Sprint's really gonna take it on the chin 'til then.
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Keovani

May 4, 2007, 1:17 PM
No thats wrong..wimax will be launced in select cities starting as early as Q4 07 i would say by mid 2008 it should be in the process of getting big.
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SystemShock

May 4, 2007, 1:21 PM
You sure? WiMax has a pretty notorious history of being over-promised and under-delivered. If you go back a few years, peeps were predicting that all the major carriers would have widely-deployed WiMax networks by now. 😕
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Keovani

May 4, 2007, 1:26 PM
"Wimax is coming as you may or not know in the 2 areas of DC and Chicago late 2007 and 25 markets by 2008. They do have many products that are coming for this network but first will be data cards, then there would be handsets, and then there would be dual mode handsets, which will consist of CDMA and Wimax." (nextel1😎 and he knows his sh!t
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SystemShock

May 4, 2007, 1:40 PM
25 markets by 2008 isn't really 'widespread', considerin' that its common business speak to talk about the 'Top 100 major metro markets'. Its a good start, but it ain't widespread.

But I'm willing to believe widespread by 2009, if everything goes well. Sprint really needs it to
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chocolateman85006

May 4, 2007, 2:18 PM
If they do, they'll be better.
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Keovani

May 4, 2007, 2:29 PM
Sprints headed for the ****ter and when the iphone comes out sprint will loose a whole lot more customers. This wimax thing prob won't actually be mass rolled out for another 2years by that time several once loyal sprint subscribers will jump ship. Sprints clientele are split in 3 your business(nextel) your cheap(sprint/boost) and your technological savvy always want the newest phone crowd(sprint)...and with no new innovation in their cellular line up..that 1/3 is moving on to some1 new.
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chocolateman85006

May 4, 2007, 2:34 PM
If the iphone doesn't crap out. The non-removeable battery concerns me.
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Keovani

May 4, 2007, 2:54 PM
yeah but think about the first treo 600 it didnt have a removable batt either but it did ok...iphone is realeasing this first one as a marketing hype..the'll realease the iphone 2.0 with the removable batt and 3g after everyone is already switched to cingular and will have to pay the full retail price for the new version. since they wont get the new customer discount. And they'll pay beacuse if they have the iphone those are the people that want the newest and best...
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chocolateman85006

May 4, 2007, 2:57 PM
The Treo 600 had no video or bluettoth. It never interested me, but I feel your point.
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Keovani

May 4, 2007, 3:07 PM
me neither i had the sanyo 5600 at the time it was all about flip phones..but then finally got the 650 then 700 now want the wimax slim palm 4g phone...if it ever comes out.
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chocolateman85006

May 4, 2007, 3:10 PM
I'm addicted to PDA phones; what can I say?
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