You are missing the 1 million that TMo did. You might think we are small, but we are gaining steam.

Well according to the email I got it didn't have T-MO's totals out yet...have they already posted?

I got that from internal news, so maybe its not public yet.

careful then, people have been fired before for posting info on this forum without it being made public yet...People are always watching...ch ch ch ch ah ah ah ah kill kill kill kill

So far this year, TMo has about 3.2-3.5 million net adds. That is most certainly safe to post.

and that is impressive...now if you guys can get your churn rates down you might be able to expand your network...

Churn is down about half a percent from this time last year. The network is building my friend. Not as fast as some of us would like, but it is building.

That's great...the more competition the merrier 🙂 That will just give us, the consumer, better options to make our choice from.

Good, no offense but you guys' network is kindof a joke...unless you never travel...

most people don't need to travel

Are you serious???? That is completely laughable 🤣 🤣 🤣

vzw is laughable. i own 8 retail stores in the busiest city in the world(NYC) and have been doing this for over 10 years. trust me when i say this, MOST PEOPLE DO NOT NEED TO TRAVEL!
can you hear me now vzwman?????

NYC is a totally different story... you can do anythign in nyc... out hewre in the sticks in northeast PA you gotta drive to get stuff done... you're lucky if oyu live within walking distance of anything, even a quick-mart is a lucky thing to be near out here...

you have a point there..does anyone have the number of activation by markets? i want to compair large markets vs little markets.

I'll see if I can get you the "midwest" (OH PA WV) q2 or q3 numbers... NYC is anothe rmarket, and jersey is another market...

north new jersey is considered part of the nyc market. the metro area consist of nyc, north nj, and westchester. i'll appreciate it if you get the numbers.

I travel all the time and have coverage everywhere I go. Not as big as it could be, but far from a joke.

WRONG!!!! they might have 3 million adds but 100% not net adds

Nextel's pre-paid service Boost also added 195,000 customers. Nextel's true adds were 745,000.

that's nothing....someone post some t-mobile PPD numbers

mcf04581 said:
Check out RCR, everyone has reported their numbers already.

Forgive my ignorance, but what is RCR and where can I find it?

RCR News, its a wireless magazine that gives some really good information. You cant get all information on the site that you can get in the mailer, but good stuff all the same.

and is free

Is it free even if you dont work for a telecomunications company? I thought that they had a sign-up link on their page and it was like $50.00 a year or something. I recomend that anyone that can get the magazine to get it. There is some really great industry news in it.

Thanks mcf... I've bookmark'd RCRnews.com and will try to check it out once in awhile... looks like a good site.

🙂

i haven't read the reports... i've been busy working on some new ad campaigns... 🙄

gee... if you guys "lost credibility" everytime you were wrong, you'd be out of business...

However, I won't be bothered with vzw's REPORTED numbers...

I'll be bothered in 2 years if Cingular isn't number one STILL.

Cain, sometimes I believe that if your own CEO came out and said something positive about VZW you would tell him to his face that he's full of crap...why is it everything that a VZW employee says is BS? No matter how many people verify it...Not all VZW reps are evil..most actually care enough to give out up to date and accurate information...And you can not sit there and tell me that there are no Cingular employees out there that spout off lies in order to make a sale either...

well...
according to your own numbers...
VZW had an opportunity to lie to 1.7 million customers last quarter... so let's say that 25 percent were based on lies...
cingular added 637,000 and will say that cingular lies about the same amount...

VZW lies told= 437,000
cingular lies told= 159,250

And I've spoken with Stan several times... he has the same outlook as i do... "Let them underestimate us... it's more fun that way".

CainMarko said:
well...
according to your own numbers...
VZW had an opportunity to lie to 1.7 million customers last quarter... so let's say that 25 percent were based on lies...
cingular added 637,000 and will say that cingular lies about the same amount...

VZW lies told= 437,000
cingular lies told= 159,250

And I've spoken with Stan several times... he has the same outlook as i do... "Let them underestimate us... it's more fun that way".

Its very disturbing that as a rep for Cingular, you just admitted that Cingular LIES to its customers in order to sell them service and phones. Yeah, a great start for the "new # 1" Shame on Cingular......

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i never said they did... i would say that they don't.
But i was giving the benefit of the doubt for people who say "you mean cingular doesn't lie".

The point WAS even IFFFFFFFF Cingular lies as much as verizon, then VZW lied their asses off alot more....just based on the number of customers you get.

Your failed attempt to say that I "admit" cingular lies is a joke..

Cain I reason to believe that you have major trust issues hehehe

CainMarko said:
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i never said they did... i would say that they don't.
But i was giving the benefit of the doubt for people who say "you mean cingular doesn't lie".

The point WAS even IFFFFFFFF Cingular lies as much as verizon, then VZW lied their asses off alot more....just based on the number of customers you get.

Your failed attempt to say that I "admit" cingular lies is a joke..

I was just reading what you said in a prior post.......

Well clearly we don't considering Cingular has one of the highest rates of postpaid churn compared to our lowest in the industry.

Reps with that attitude make me see why.

vzman has to understand one thing, it will be one year since WLNP came out. see how many customers you get next quarter. the ones that want vz has it now. Cingular will blow you away next year!

OMG w/e dude! Contracts end every day! People wait until their contracts are up to switch! Also think of the people who ported from VZW... most will be coming back! 🙂 VZW has nothing to worry about. Don't forget the migration between Cing and ATT.. it won't go smooth, people WILL leave and they will leave for a company that's not going thru such growing pains.

why would a at&t customer leave, things will only improve for them

HOW WILL THEY IMPROVE???? CINGULAR HAS PROVEN N-O-T-H-I-N-G!!! CHURN IS STILL HIGH!!!!

listen dork...you dont know how the migration will go. i don't even know. so lets just wait on that. as for people porting back to vz, don't count on it. a few may, but the majority will be switched to other carriers except vz. the reason for this is that Cingular, T-Mobile, Nextel, and Sprint is everywhere. vz stores are miles apart!! the Dealers will convince the customer to switch to another carrier except vz.

do you work for cingular? do you work in marketing in atlanta? oh you don't? then STFU about what i should see in my emails... dork.

Why the name calling? There is no need Cain...I myself am also suprised that you as a rep of the "#1 company" do not recieve competitor info...that is very wierd, considering that you would normally want to know what other companies are doing...hmmmm

HAHAA.. well when you're losing a battle, the claws come out! Only thing Cain can do is name call.. very mature!

no one is losing this battle... I think #1 speaks for itself.

I agree with cain. also historical numbers are great. however how about the largest cash purchase in history. not just wireless, but american history! what does that say about cingulars commitment to being #1

Actually all this says is that you Cingular boys think that the purchase was the #1 stupidest thing your company has done and that you now have to cover your contempt with a smile and a mouth full of dung.

Enjoy the migrations, they sure will be fun.

I will enjoy every dollar of the migrations

haha.. well more customers (bought) not earned doesn't mean A THING!! 🤣

be fair now. vzw bought most of their initial customer base. it is growing now, but the early days were all aquisition.

There is nothing wrong with acquisition....either by VZW or Cingular....they key is to keep the customer base happy and at the same time, grow...we will see if Cingular can do the same thing that VZW has done since they began.

do you know how many customers they had? @ 25 million at the time... now look

I am not bashing vzw, just saying that the situations are similar.

cool cool... tho u do have to admit.. adding 17 million customers in 4 years is great progress..

tell that to primeco airtouch and gte customers

well, because i haven't checked my email all damn day... i have been in meetings and working on some ad stuff... and posting on this forum 🤣

VZW can claim they added 1.7 million all damn day.... doesn't neccesarrily mean it's true.

Um... wouldnt that be illegal to report false numbers?

yes it would... now you know why there are some regulatory committees investigating how companies actually count their subscribers... sprint was busted for it once... but there weren't any laws against it... so there are some govt peeps looking to enact some laws...

Oh my god you morons, he's baiting you. He knows what the numbers are.

lol

Congratulations. That may have officially been the most idiotic thing I've read this month.