As I say they are as good as movie reviews. WORTHLESS!!

Well opinions are like naggy girlfriends, Wom... everyone has one. 😎

In any case, your opinion is noted. But its only one opinion. The JD Power study was the compilation of over 25,000 users surveyed. In other words... 25,000+ opinions.

25,000 > 1. But your mileage may vary.

I still think they a BS. You can only do this test with experts. Did I see they said static in one of the areas. WOW I thought static went away with analog? But anyway these must be the same people that think when they are on extended network with verizon they are still on verizon's network!

wombough said:
WOW I thought static went away with analog?

Analog hasn't gone away yet.

sorry I was a few months to early!!

Seriously. Come back and reference this thread in March. Then it will be right.

robtheman said:

wombough said:
WOW I thought static went away with analog?

Analog hasn't gone away yet.

But most CDMA carries sell nothing but digital phones, and they have been for many months... So, having "static" issues is ridiculous for any CDMA carrier and IMPOSSIBLE for GSM carriers.

BeachSlapped said:

robtheman said:

wombough said:
WOW I thought static went away with analog?

Analog hasn't gone away yet.

But most CDMA carries sell nothing but digital phones, and they have been for many months... So, having "static" issues is ridiculous for any CDMA carrier and IMPOSSIBLE for GSM carriers.

Yeah, GSM just garbles the call. That's why my brother dumped ATT, anyway. 😕

Btw, there are plenty of trimode phones still out there...

PS- List of trimode (digital/analog) phones sold by Verizon either currently, or up until very recently:

- Motorola W315
- LG 3400
- LG 3450
- Samsung u340
- LG 5300
- Samsung a870

There's also allegedly a Moto 325xi coming, which'd you'd expect to be trimode (as other 325s were).

its either tri mode or evdo. I have not seen both!

Yup. But that's not really what we're talkin' about.

I know since I brought up the static. Are they polling analog customers?

wombough said:
Are they polling analog customers?

or, are they recycling the surveys from 1999?

ahh didn't think of that one 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

Just goes to show you the "customers" they are polling don't know what the hell they are talkign about!

wombough said:
Just goes to show you the "customers" they are polling don't know what the hell they are talkign about!

🙄 😛 🙄

come on I know you know static does not exist in a digital signal. So when they say people say they have less static with one carrier you have to raise the BS flag!

wombough said:
come on I know you know static does not exist in a digital signal. So when they say people say they have less static with one carrier you have to raise the BS flag!

Uhh... Wom, what part of the fact that there's a lot of trimode phones out there did you not get? 👀

Instead of doing uninformed complaining, why not read the survey?

I understand that but that is comparing apples and oranges. Lets see ATT tmobile and sprint do not have analog networks! Alltel and verizon do! Maybe USSC I am not sure! So how can you compare? Would love to hear this one! And I believe verizon was less likely to hear static? And they just happen to have a analog system that you could possible get static on go figure!

I no damn well there are allot of trimode phones out there. My point is your roaming unless you have one with verizon or alltel! (I am only including the big carriers.

Sigh. If you'd bothered to actually read the survey, Wom, you'd understand that it wasn't all about static.

In fact, the major parameters were the following:

- dropped calls
- static/interference
- failed connection on the first try
- voice distortion
- echoes
- no immediate voice mail notification
- no immediate text message notification

Static isn't even one whole category, it's actually 'static/interference'. I'm glad they threw the static in there, again, for the trimode phone users.

So... what is it you're complaining about again, Wom?

I am not complaining about a god damn thing I am discussing that I feel these are BS. You poll 10000 people. Half is their fault the call doesn't go through for they don't' even know how to work the phone.

I do't care who really is number one. Hell the carrier I use won in the area I use the phone in. I am not getting a better price since they won. I don't think my friends are envious of me. And I sitll think when I had sprint were I live now I got clearer calls. So that is what I am saying!

Well, actually they polled 25,000 people, not 10,000. Better statistically, if you follow.

And Wom, I don't think anyone is saying that because someone won the West region, or whatever, that the carrier that won or lost a region is automatically the best (or worst) in EVERY SINGLE AREA in that region. Just that they were the best OVERALL in that region.

But that's sorta obvious. And nothin' really to get worked up over.

I understand all that. And I don't get worked up on here about anything. Its all mostly buying my time and entertainment.

Got it. But if that's the goal, you'd prolly get more mileage out of being in the Lounge, discussing which NFL team is gonna win the SuperBowl this year. 😎

yeah but I like wireless. One of my intrests. That and common sense!

For me, it'd be wireless, custom cars, and Vida Guerra. 🤤

😉 custom cars is a good one.

PS- If you haven't been there, this is the Lounge:

https://www.phonescoop.com/forums/forum.php?ff=5 »

and its not uniformed complaining. Its debating. But I guess you don't know the difference.

Given the fact that you don't seem to have actually read the survey, yes, I'd have to call it uninformed. What other word should I use?

Read it, and I will gladly take that back. Right now, your chief gripe seems to be that the 25,000 customers surveyed do not agree with you.

While I respect your opinion, I also respect theirs, too. Should I not? 😲

ddin't say they don't agree with me at all. I think they are all close. That is all none shine over the others. So that is my point.

the_eraser said:

wombough said:
Are they polling analog customers?

or, are they recycling the surveys from 1999?

Oh, don't be so butthurt, eraser.

I'm sure ATT will ace one of these things, come 2099. 😎

That just proves my point more how these so called reports are BS.

People like the way motos look so regardless how they work people want them. We are a sight and hearing society. If it looks and sounds good they want it regardless of how it preforms!

wombough said:
That just proves my point more how these so called reports are BS.

People like the way motos look so regardless how they work people want them. We are a sight and hearing society. If it looks and sounds good they want it regardless of how it preforms!

If that were true, then Toyota and Honda would also fail in those surveys because they both build very plain, unimpressive vehicles compared to BMW, GM and Chrysler.

The bottom line is no matter how good something looks, if it doesn't perform well and costs a lot of money on upkeep, no one will buy it. Most people aren't wealthy, and therefore must budget their money accordingly.

are you F***ing kidding me. I don't care who you are. When you put down 15 to 30 grand you go for what works and is the best. Come on you can't compare that with a cell phone!

I can't count how many times I spoke wiht females mostly. Why you get that razr. It was cute they say.

Please I can't believe you went there.

In terms of expense, perhaps different.

Yeah, some (maybe a lot) of folks DO buy things based on appearance, but that is why you survey LOTS of people. That way you get a more realistic idea of what is or isn't good.

Kind of like "word of mouth", only written down and documented.

well I also say people go by what they hear. Like verizon is the best and sprint sucks. Just liek verizon was so good at the extended network. If you polled people if that meant they were roaming I bet 90% would say no I am on verizon's network just the extended network!

I do agree that when you have bad experiences with customer services, it DOES influence how you view a company as a whole, including network performance.

If we get treated "like a king" and promptly, we tend to be more forgiving when we do experience network issues. The reverse being true as well.

Personally, I've had no dropped calls with my ic502 phones, and no "network busy" messages. If I have a signal, I can make a call, if I don't, I can't. I think Sprint's lousy CS is the REAL problem over there, and not the network or their phones.

But then, that's MY opinion and experience, not that of everyone else, necessarily.

Nice. AT&T has crippled devices. Hence, Verizon is better than AT&T.