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Does Verizon not get it.....?

BK

Dec 17, 2004, 11:55 AM
I went into a store to pay my Verizon bill and dropped most of my services. I did keep the phone portion only since I do like the phone network and have been with them 5 yrs. The rep asked me why I was dropping the services and I flat out told him that I was getting irritated by the lack of new equipment and other companies seem to giving the customers what they want as far as better rates and minutes (nights starting at 7, rollover minutes, internet not using minutes, newer equipment- etc). I guess juding from the expression on the reps face he's been hearing a lot of the same thing lately.

I wasn't rude or obnoxious with the rep either.

I have a bad feeling that when Sprint/Nextel finally merge that Verizon is going to drop to num...
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sunilsonia

Dec 17, 2004, 12:12 PM
BK said:
I went into a store to pay my Verizon bill and dropped most of my services. I did keep the phone portion only since I do like the phone network and have been with them 5 yrs. The rep asked me why I was dropping the services and I flat out told him that I was getting irritated by the lack of new equipment and other companies seem to giving the customers what they want as far as better rates and minutes (nights starting at 7, rollover minutes, internet not using minutes, newer equipment- etc). I guess juding from the expression on the reps face he's been hearing a lot of the same thing lately.

I wasn't rude or obnoxious with the rep either.

I have a bad feeling that when Sprint/Nextel finally merge that Ve
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sunilsonia

Dec 17, 2004, 12:14 PM
sunilsonia said:
BK said:
I went into a store to pay my Verizon bill and dropped most of my services. I did keep the phone portion only since I do like the phone network and have been with them 5 yrs. The rep asked me why I was dropping the services and I flat out told him that I was getting irritated by the lack of new equipment and other companies seem to giving the customers what they want as far as better rates and minutes (nights starting at 7, rollover minutes, internet not using minutes, newer equipment- etc). I guess juding from the expression on the reps face he's been hearing a lot of the same thing lately.

I wasn't rude or obnoxious with the rep either.

I have a bad feeling that whe
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Liam20

Dec 17, 2004, 2:39 PM
I see.. is there a point to this post?
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SPCSVZWJeff

Dec 18, 2004, 9:13 PM
I guess they don't get why it is important to have the best network overall in the industry, the best customer service, etc.
T-Mobile needs great customer service to explain their lack of coverage and terrible data network away.
They feel that having cool phones on a weak network is better than having vanilla phones on an awesome network.
Cingular could end up 3rd if the Sprint-Nextel merger goes well because of the innovative products and services that will be available. A slow rollout of UMTS will cause more problems, especially since UMTS has underperformed its expectations.

The fact of the matter is that even with all of Verizon's customers their churn rate is below 1.5%. Besides Verizon only Nextel and US Cellular have churn r...
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muchdrama

Dec 18, 2004, 10:22 PM
SPCSVZWJeff said:
I guess they don't get why it is important to have the best network overall in the industry, the best customer service, etc.
T-Mobile needs great customer service to explain their lack of coverage and terrible data network away.
They feel that having cool phones on a weak network is better than having vanilla phones on an awesome network.
Cingular could end up 3rd if the Sprint-Nextel merger goes well because of the innovative products and services that will be available. A slow rollout of UMTS will cause more problems, especially since UMTS has underperformed its expectations.

The fact of the matter is that even with all of Verizon's customers their churn rate is below 1.5%. Besides Verizon on
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DM121281

Dec 19, 2004, 8:13 PM
Ok first off I was a Verizon customer and switched to Cingular. Verizon might be the best now but only for one reason their network has been around for a long time. Cingular switched to GSM about 3 years ago and AT&T did the same 2 years ago. Cingular has been in the eastcoast for 2 years and look how far they've gotten in such a short time. So I would say give them another year they will beat Verizon in every way and they will keep the #1 spot.
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muchdrama

Dec 20, 2004, 9:28 AM
DM121281 said:
Ok first off I was a Verizon customer and switched to Cingular. Verizon might be the best now but only for one reason their network has been around for a long time. Cingular switched to GSM about 3 years ago and AT&T did the same 2 years ago. Cingular has been in the eastcoast for 2 years and look how far they've gotten in such a short time. So I would say give them another year they will beat Verizon in every way and they will keep the #1 spot.
I don't see that happening. At least not any time soon. Maybe in a few years when they've got their stuff together.
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Dan717

Dec 21, 2004, 9:25 AM
Also keep in mind that Cingular is rolling out UMTS (3G or WCDMA)...

Unfortunately when compared to EV-DO and EV-DV, UMTS has underperformed horribly.
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zjc2a

Dec 21, 2004, 9:37 AM
Dan717 said:
Also keep in mind that Cingular is rolling out UMTS (3G or WCDMA)...

Unfortunately when compared to EV-DO and EV-DV, UMTS has underperformed horribly.



Underperformed horribly? What are talking about? Both are capable of speeds of 2.0 mbs and I don't see many markets with EV-DO. Real speeds will be about the same. I know Cingular has 6 markets with UMTS.

-Z
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sunilsonia

Dec 17, 2004, 4:02 PM
sunilsonia said:
sunilsonia said:
BK said:
I went into a store to pay my Verizon bill and dropped most of my services. I did keep the phone portion only since I do like the phone network and have been with them 5 yrs. The rep asked me why I was dropping the services and I flat out told him that I was getting irritated by the lack of new equipment and other companies seem to giving the customers what they want as far as better rates and minutes (nights starting at 7, rollover minutes, internet not using minutes, newer equipment- etc). I guess juding from the expression on the reps face he's been hearing a lot of the same thing lately.

I wasn't rude or obnoxious with the rep eith
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kigirl11

Dec 17, 2004, 4:12 PM
gotcha sorry misunderstood. Thought we were starting another forum lame argument ya know where people start saying my company is better than urs..etc..u get the idea. I just didn't want to read another argument about services. My bad...i should have read all of the previous posts. 😉
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BetterThanJake

Dec 17, 2004, 12:48 PM
BK said:
I intend to keep my phone service until my contract runs out but after that will start looking for another carrier unless Verizon has started looking the competitive barracuda they once were instead of the slowly dying beached whale they've become.

Actually, the problem may be that Verizon IS still the competitive barracuda they always were, but now they are too much so.

Verizon's been adding more customers than anyone else in the industry, and your personal experience not withstanding, the customers they do have tend not to leave (Verizon has one of the lowest customer 'churn' rates around).

As a result, they are perhaps getting a bit arrogant. Which is why you're not seeing things like, oh,...
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Vox Dei

Dec 17, 2004, 1:40 PM
Sprint and Nextel only have 36 Million customers so Verizon will still stay number two. Also Verizon seems to be interested in Purchasing Sprint so that might be interesting too.
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JessiCSR

Dec 17, 2004, 2:25 PM
Come to Cingular...we pretty much have the same coverage as verizon now, and we're cooler than T-mobile. 🙂
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sunilsonia

Dec 17, 2004, 2:36 PM
JessiCSR said:
Come to Cingular...we pretty much have the same coverage as verizon now, and we're cooler than T-mobile. 🙂


Yeah right Cingular is cooler than T-Mobile. I'll have to puke over that one. :putting finger in mouth to force puke:
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Liam20

Dec 17, 2004, 2:46 PM
Again, is this like cell phone rivalry? I am just laughing at the thought of it.
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megs72979

Dec 17, 2004, 2:51 PM
cingular works in way more places than T Mobile, we offer great phones, and now are commercials are better than yours too!! 😲 😳 😲
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Liam20

Dec 17, 2004, 3:23 PM
"The All Over Network..." 😉
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sunilsonia

Dec 17, 2004, 3:29 PM
Liam20 said:
"The All Over Network..." 😉



More like the "Deal All over Network."
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Liam20

Dec 17, 2004, 3:31 PM
Deal???
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sunilsonia

Dec 17, 2004, 3:43 PM
sunilsonia said:
Liam20 said:
"The All Over Network..." 😉



More like the "Deal All over Network."



Sorry typo......"More like the "Dead All over Network."
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megs72979

Dec 17, 2004, 3:47 PM
let me get this straight....
your comparing us to T Mobile???
are you on something?
if so, can i have some??
😳 😲 😳
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sunilsonia

Dec 17, 2004, 4:12 PM
megs72979 said:
let me get this straight....
your comparing us to T Mobile???
are you on something?
if so, can i have some??
😳 😲 😳


Dude, you have to merge with AT&T to get a so called better network, which you unarguably may have but your quality of reception on all your so called cool phones, it just doesn't compare. And I've tried everything from the v.180, v.220, v.600, a variety of SE's.....you name it and I've tried it. Quality of reception doesn't compare to T-Mobile in my area. This in a Cingular office building nonetheless. I've even tried it outside my house, outside my wife's office place and generally around the DFW metroplex.....it just doesn't do it for me man. Heck, T-Mobile's ...
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BetterThanJake

Dec 17, 2004, 6:12 PM
sunilsonia said:
megs72979 said:
let me get this straight....
your comparing us to T Mobile???
are you on something?
if so, can i have some??
😳 😲 😳


Dude, you have to merge with AT&T to get a so called better network, which you unarguably may have but your quality of reception on all your so called cool phones, it just doesn't compare. And I've tried everything from the v.180, v.220, v.600, a variety of SE's.....you name it and I've tried it. Quality of reception doesn't compare to T-Mobile in my area. This in a Cingular office building nonetheless. I've even tried it outside my house, outside my wife's office place and generally around the DFW metroplex.....it just doesn't
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JessiCSR

Dec 17, 2004, 6:14 PM
Yay, the ****fight continues. 🙄
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coldsteel

Dec 17, 2004, 6:21 PM
Where's Cain when ya need him... 🤣
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BetterThanJake

Dec 17, 2004, 6:25 PM
Yup, true dat.

OTT, if it were two female reps fighting, what would we call it then?
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Liam20

Dec 18, 2004, 2:41 PM
Dude, its all about the Cingular network... 🤣
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sunilsonia

Dec 17, 2004, 6:31 PM
BetterThanJake said:
sunilsonia said:
megs72979 said:
let me get this straight....
your comparing us to T Mobile???
are you on something?
if so, can i have some??
😳 😲 😳


Dude, you have to merge with AT&T to get a so called better network, which you unarguably may have but your quality of reception on all your so called cool phones, it just doesn't compare. And I've tried everything from the v.180, v.220, v.600, a variety of SE's.....you name it and I've tried it. Quality of reception doesn't compare to T-Mobile in my area. This in a Cingular office building nonetheless. I've even tried it outside my house, outside my wife's office place and generally aro
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BetterThanJake

Dec 17, 2004, 6:42 PM
sunilsonia said:
Just thought I'd make the story straight here before BetterThanJake (alias, Chemical Ali from the US of A) starts spreading his false information. 😈

No, no, no. You're confusing Chemical Ali, the guy who used chemical weapons against the Iraqi population, with 'Baghdad Bob'. HE was the information minister who said all those hilariously untrue things.

Some TV show had a pretty good skit of Bob talking on and on about how Iraqi forces had crushed the US invasion, while like five feet behind him US Marines were setting up furniture and equipment. Great stuff. 😉
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sunilsonia

Dec 17, 2004, 7:16 PM
BetterThanJake said:
sunilsonia said:
Just thought I'd make the story straight here before BetterThanJake (alias, Chemical Ali from the US of A) starts spreading his false information. 😈

No, no, no. You're confusing Chemical Ali, the guy who used chemical weapons against the Iraqi population, with 'Baghdad Bob'. HE was the information minister who said all those hilariously untrue things.

Some TV show had a pretty good skit of Bob talking on and on about how Iraqi forces had crushed the US invasion, while like five feet behind him US Marines were setting up furniture and equipment. Great stuff. 😉



It also could be the rage from Fallujah Frank. 🤣 .......
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BetterThanJake

Dec 17, 2004, 7:34 PM
I have no idea what you're talking about now. *shrug*
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sunilsonia

Dec 17, 2004, 7:39 PM
BetterThanJake said:
I have no idea what you're talking about now. *shrug*

It was a poke of fun at your 'Baghdad Bob' Joke.
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sunilsonia

Dec 17, 2004, 7:38 PM
sunilsonia said:
BetterThanJake said:
sunilsonia said:
Just thought I'd make the story straight here before BetterThanJake (alias, Chemical Ali from the US of A) starts spreading his false information. 😈

No, no, no. You're confusing Chemical Ali, the guy who used chemical weapons against the Iraqi population, with 'Baghdad Bob'. HE was the information minister who said all those hilariously untrue things.

Some TV show had a pretty good skit of Bob talking on and on about how Iraqi forces had crushed the US invasion, while like five feet behind him US Marines were setting up furniture and equipment. Great stuff. 😉



It also could be the
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BetterThanJake

Dec 17, 2004, 7:47 PM
Oh, ok, I get it now. The thing is, Baghdad Bob isn't a joke, he really existed. Its what people called the real-life Iraqi information minister... it may be a play on Tokyo Rose, the famous Japanese propaganda lady in WWII.
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Anxiovert

Dec 21, 2004, 10:31 PM
sunilsonia said:
Liam20 said:
"The All Over Network..." 😉



More like the "Deal All over Network."


LMFAO!!!!! 🤣
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kigirl11

Dec 17, 2004, 3:27 PM
u r hopeless in this argument. Each company is going to offer something that another doesn't and each company is going to have service where another doesn't otherwise one company would just be a monopoly!iLLEGAL...so stop comparing and just go back to the cingular site and leave the verizon forum alone. 🙄
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bizkitsngravy

Dec 21, 2004, 3:56 PM
kigirl11 said:
u r hopeless in this argument. Each company is going to offer something that another doesn't and each company is going to have service where another doesn't otherwise one company would just be a monopoly!iLLEGAL...so stop comparing... 🙄


Thats probably one of the most intelligent things that have been said on this one.

This is a feircly competitive indusrty, and I don't see it slowing down at least anytime soon. You are always going to have your VZW people and your T-Mobile people and your Cingular people and so and and so on...just like you have your ford and chevy people...or hell even green bay vs. phily people.

I find it hard to believe that 2 people will like the exact same...
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Dan717

Dec 21, 2004, 9:23 AM
Too bad neither company has the overall quality of coverage of VZW.
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