As you have all heard, Verizon is committed to opening it's network to other CDMA devices. This goes into effect February 14th, barring any delays or complications.
Enjoy.
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gunny
Feb 4, 2008, 8:52 PM
BloodiedWraith said:
As you have all heard, Verizon is committed to opening it's network to other CDMA devices. This goes into effect February 14th, barring any delays or complications.
Enjoy.
๐ณ The website will be up on that date???
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actually the date for being able to use gsm and cdma devices is the end of 2008- if there are no delays--- but for now they can only use verizon phones because of the technology they are useing.. it is actually more advanced then the other companies.(GSM)
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You obviously don't know what you're talking about.
Verizon isn't opening their network to GSM handsets; only CDMA. This goes into effect on February 14th. This isn't speculation on my part, it's confirmation.
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So I could buy a black sprint touch, and activate it on the 14th?
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If it's approved by Verizon and Sprint allows it to be "unlocked", yes. However, not all of the features can be guaranteed to work. They really haven't told us how they're going to work the whole thing out, but when I get more information, you'll know it.
I thought about getting the Sprint Touch, but I'm just gonna get the XV6900. The white doesn't bother me at all on it.
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no. its not on the 14th. its the end of 2008. if you buy it u'll b wasting your $$.
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Bro... I trust BloodiedWraith. He's one of maybe 5 people on here thet give accurate info. To be frank, have you posted here before? ๐คจ
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im am female. and work for verizon wireless directly. not an agent.
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your typing is horrible. guy or gal. ๐คฃ
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w.e im done talking.. haha ๐ ๐คฃ
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Feb 14 is the date as stated by the other poster. You will be able to use other companies CDMA devices if unlocked. The process is outlined to VZW employess and cust service could confirm this by calling them.
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i work for verizon... we are opening it to ALL phones end of 2008.. not just cdma. we arent even opening it to just cdma in feb. no such thing.
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How is a GSM phone going to work on Verizon's CDMA network? Verizon doesn't have a GSM network.
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they are taking over unicel (which is GSM) so we will just use both towers.. we currently share towers with unicel and uscellular, trust me its not hard at all...its basically like turning on a switch
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US Cellular is a CDMA carrier, not GSM.
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thats what i said!! i said that we ALREADY use uscellular and unicel towers!! lol, wow you need to learn how to read! lol... u MUST b an auth agent... lol, they need to educated you guys better
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I've never even heard of Unicell. I'm sure they exist but they must be a rather small or regional carrier. Verizon can't use a network like that for GSM nationwide and expect it to work. They never would. Your story has no merit. You're a joke.
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they arent using t NAtion wide.. it is in new england only carrier. (knwo ur stuff b4 u say im lying) we are in the middle of a buying them. google it if you dont beleive me.. and are for the rest .. we will just make enhansements to our network to be able to use gsm phones on our network.. i JUST went to mass for trainging onthe topic. we WILL b able tot use ALL gsm and cdma phone on Verizon Wireless network at the end of 2008.
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Okay, I can tell you right now, flat out, that Verizon Wireless will not be allowing GSM phones onto it's 100% CDMA network. That would be impossible. There would be so many articles released already (of which I am subsribed to) and other forums would be talking about this. Unicel (for your information, you must not have looked this up very well) is a CDMA carrier for the most part except in Minnesota and in other areas around there. If Verizon does acquire them, those customers will be phased over to CDMA phones and that GSM network will be overlayed with CDMA towers. The GSM network there will be kept up and running for GSM roaming means for other carriers.
With this said, NO, Verizon will not be allowing anybody to get a GSM phone to ...
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unless you work for vzw... and u dont.. well i work for them. and yes we ARE going to allow the use of ALL phones on our network as of the end of 2008-we have had commercials about it also- and YES we are. i work for verizon wireless. and we HAVE publisized that we will be allowing ALL phones on our network...
Dramatically reversing a long-standing policy, Verizon Wireless on Tuesday said it will no longer restrict the types of cellphones its customers can use on its network.- usa today
if you google. "verizon wireless opens network" you will see that we are opening it.. so there is ur proof. you should have just beleived me instead of making a fool of yourselves.
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thanks I did just that and the first atricle here READ yourself;
Update: More from Verizon on this. Dick Lynch, Verizon's CTO says, "If someone has the technical capability of building something in their basement on a breadboard ... have at it," which should quickly open the market to small-scale device companies. Also of note, only CDMA devices will be supported (naturally) and pricing should be "competitive."
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Please go back to the mailroom and stop posting pure BS. k, thnx.
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Verizon Wireless said yesterday that it would allow customers to use any compatible device or software on its network, responding to growing pressure on the wireless industry to give people more control over how they use their phones. -washington post
hate to say it but.. told u so, and here is yet another article as proof. just google it. and ull see its RIGHT THERE! were not trying to hide it. we publisized it about a month ago!
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phoneXpert00 said:
Verizon Wireless said yesterday that it would allow customers to use any compatible device or software on its network, -washington post
Keyword there is any compatible device. So gsm phones are will work with cdma now. I am going to go buy an iphone tommorow.. ๐ณ
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duckbutter said:
phoneXpert00 said:
Verizon Wireless said yesterday that it would allow customers to use any compatible device or software on its network, -washington post
Keyword there is any compatible device. So gsm phones are will work with cdma now. I am going to go buy an iphone tommorow.. ๐ณ
No...The keyword is COMPATABLE...No GSM phone is compatible with a CDMA phone. IF it were there would be a lot of Verizon users cheering.
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No...The keyword is COMPATABLE...
spell check nazi... the first two were correct: compatible.
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Umm, maybe you should read what write before you post it. And maybe you should read into what it says first! That would help! I really don't think you work for Verizon, because if you do, then you might need to go through some more training.
The articles that you've posted have all said COMPATIBLE DEVICES. KEYWORD: COMPATIBLE. Only CDMA phones are compatible with Verizon's network. Get it?
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a very small GSM company offering flat rate cell phone services and also CDMA coverage. In my city of Sioux Falls, SD they have unlimited local GSM (like 25 mile radius around town) coverage with unlimited minutes for 44.95 a month go to unicel.com and use zip code 57104
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They have CDMA service in East North Dakota and Northern Minnesota. They actually have great coverage in Northern Minnesota!!!
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I work for VZW also as a direct agent. Apparantly you went to a special training class because noone I know went to any training of that sort. Lamo.
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norteast has differnt training. either way i work for vzw and have for two years now.. so w.e im not gonna argure about soemthing that is true.. lol so w.e lmao ๐คฃ ๐คฃ
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Mr. xpert. I work for VZW in the Northeast, and just searched infomanager for stuff you posted.
I hope you enjoy giving out disinformation.
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what store do you work for then??? ๐คฃ ๐คฃ and whats ur name?......
thats what i thought.. lmao
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I've yet to see your name, Sales code, location ID or anything to substantiate the fact that you work for Verizon.
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the information on it is in infodesk if you dont think im telling the truth
๐คฃ lol
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your an idiot.
GSM will never work on our current network period. If they told you that in training then the person training you is equally an idiot. They are two totally different frequencies. It is much more complicated then just allowing it, they can allow it all they want but a gsm phone will not pick up our towers.
Please keep in mind(and most of us that have been around for a long time have learned) That internal training is always about why vzw is the best, it is always focused on the positives, sometimes in a biased manner, in this industry you should keep some space in your head for something other then the propaganda they feed you. Verizon is the best, i love verizon, but i keep my mind a little more open and just blindly ...
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correct me if i am wrong but from what i have read on this open network is that its not that current customers can call in to do an esn change to another carriers phone. so this excludes the 55 mil current customers. vzw will test other carriers phones and determine if it will be allowed on our network. at this point they will be on a special plan thats like network only with its own rates etc. nothing has been mentioned abt existing customers being able to change to the other plans w/o an etf
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dalily21 said:
correct me if i am wrong but from what i have read on this open network is that its not that current customers can call in to do an esn change to another carriers phone. so this excludes the 55 mil current customers. vzw will test other carriers phones and determine if it will be allowed on our network. at this point they will be on a special plan thats like network only with its own rates etc. nothing has been mentioned abt existing customers being able to change to the other plans w/o an etf
Now THAT sounds like Verizon's version of what an "open Network" would be, ๐ ๐
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i dont like it either because you will have a lot of angry current customers who want to just do an esn change to another networks phone
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you dont like it? its an enhansement to our systems that is only for the better. there is nothing bad about this. customer now have more freedom for phone choices
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there would be no etf for existing customer you would simply by changing your priceplan... you wouldnt even be signing a new contract.
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It actually makes perfect sense. Opening the network to other phones will likely create many problems. Since the phones are not ones that Verizon subsidizes, I can understand them offering only a connection and no customer service of warranties.
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if that's true that seems extremely shortsighted on verizon's part, let us hope it is not. you corporate employees must have the info already posted in infomanager i'm assuming...i wish they wouldn't leave us indirects out of the loop all the time, we sell the same product, so why not keep us abrest of info like this? obviously it gets on the net before we even see it, depressing โน๏ธ ;)
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actually customer can just bring any phone into the store and we can do an esn change to ANY phone that they want, that is vzw approved. basically meaning that we dont want you to put just anything on our network. phones have to be vzw approved. and go through our tests
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dssl
Feb 5, 2008, 8:39 AM
we have no info on this at all. If anything it is the company has started to test other cdma carrier phoens since we cannot use gsm at all. Any gsm networks we bought will be changed to cdma. Now it probably also means any company with a gsm phoen that wants to make a cdma version of that phone has that option.
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please read more on this. as you said ur not too sure on it... vzw will open its network to ALL phones that are approved. this means cdma and gsm. if you google it you will find articles on this
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dssl
Feb 5, 2008, 8:54 AM
I work for them just like you do. Ive been to meetings where we talked on this. We will not be allowing gsm on our network because like in west virginia the network is being transitioned to cdma. We are not going to be acting like sprint and using 2 networks which makes no sense. If you realized what the company said was that those gsm phone can be made to cdma if the manufacturer wants to but we wont warranty those phone since not sold through us. I am not sure on which manu wants to do this personally but this is how it has been listed to work. There is no way a gsm phone can work on cdma.
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apparently you werent awake for the meeting.. ๐คฃ ๐คฃ lol
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dssl
Feb 5, 2008, 9:18 AM
๐ Apparently you never learned that cdma and gsm are 2 different technologies that don't work together. Please learn your facts before saying incrrect info.
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please stop posting and do some things you say. GOGGLE it and read all the articles. They all say you have to be an idiot to think its for GSM devices!
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dssl
Feb 6, 2008, 11:04 AM
๐ฟ I never said it was for gsm device. I said the manufactures would have to make cdma versions of the gsm devices for it to work. Maybe you should learn to read.
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dssl said:
๐ฟ I never said it was for gsm device. I said the manufactures would have to make cdma versions of the gsm devices for it to work. Maybe you should learn to read.
Manufacturers would not HAVE to make anything. Nokia and Sony,two of the largest cell phone makers don't consider the market worth the same effort they put into GSM.
Verizon is fortunate Vodaphone has a lot to say becasue their 45% ownership and being a GSM company will influence technological changes to blur the line.
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dssl
Feb 6, 2008, 1:53 PM
๐ To work ok vzw's network they would. If they choose not to thats up to them.
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gunny
Feb 5, 2008, 10:14 AM
I don't know any details except what PS has already post, But I'm just stoked for this bring it on Verizon! ๐
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first poster is correct. The so called "phoneXpert" is wrong.
Customer service can confirm this, call them. Have them check their email or data news postings. Every customer service rep was notified within past 24-48 hrs.
Those that claim they work for Verizon and say otherwise are fools.
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Great.
Are there any handsets on the "approved list"?
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cricket, cricket, Nope guess not.
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I just looked at the VZW approved device list for open access..
I'm disapointed. The phones on the list are older than dirt. Don't get too excited on using a phone from somewhere else..
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Can you please post ehe approved device list.
Thanks in advance.
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bentos88 said:
I just looked at the VZW approved device list for open access..
I'm disapointed. The phones on the list are older than dirt. Don't get too excited on using a phone from somewhere else..
Can you please post the approved device list.
Thanks in advance.
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Did you expect something differant from Verizon. I just don't see how it would benifit them to offer to use brand new devices from other networks. But I could be missing somethign and probably am.
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It's pretty sad, but here it goes..
VZW Manufacturer / Model Equivalent Model(s)
Kyocera KX-1 Same as VZW model number
Kyocera K-404 Same as VZW model number
Kyocera KX-434 Same as VZW model number
Kyocera KE-414 Same as VZW model number
Kyocera KX-2 Same as VZW model number
Kyocera KE-434 Same as VZW model number
Kyocera KX-414 Same as VZW model number
Kyocera 2325 Same as VZW model number
LG VX-5400 CX285
LG VX-6000 UX6000, BP6000
LG VX-4400 UX4400, BP4400
UT Starcom CDM 7025 Same as VZW model number
UT Starcom 9900 Same as VZW model number
UT Starcom 9155 Same as VZW model number
UT Starcom 9500 Same as VZW model number
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wow sad is not the word. No samsungs. Kyocera when did the last one of those come out on any major network? WOW
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gunny
Feb 5, 2008, 6:50 PM
wtf is this, bs! what C'mon
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It seems funny that you created this login today and have been spouting such BS. Why should someone believe you over others that have been here for a long time giving truthful information.
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If you do your no better then her!!! As it takes but 2 seconds to search and see she is full of BS!!
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k. i did some reading in info man. i hadnt read on this in awhile so i apologize for my incorrect info. any person can go into a direct store with the device the would like to put on our network. the store will make sure it works and security code is the default. the store will mail the phone to the warehouse and there they will test it and determine if it will be allowed. if so, they will flash vzw s/w on it and re send it to the cust. if it is denied they will mail the phone back
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gunny
Feb 5, 2008, 7:09 PM
what, i thought verizon was setting up a web site to do esn changes right there, that is what the PS article said...im going to wait till all the official announcements are out before jumping to any conclusion because this info sounds way off, and if marginally true total bs.
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dalily21 said:
k. i did some reading in info man. i hadnt read on this in awhile so i apologize for my incorrect info. any person can go into a direct store with the device the would like to put on our network. the store will make sure it works and security code is the default. the store will mail the phone to the warehouse and there they will test it and determine if it will be allowed. if so, they will flash vzw s/w on it and re send it to the cust. if it is denied they will mail the phone back
And you call that opening the network? All that sending back and crap? Flashing Verizon's SW on it??
SO lets see I have to drive somewhere, give them my phone for awhile so they can"test" it and put Veri...
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not quite sure where you are getting your info, but mine is straight from the horses mouth (ie verizon indirect account manager) according to her the only info they have released to the employees is that the any app, any device program is supposed to go into effect Q3 2008 and that is all the has been given out, unless they have been keeping her in the dark and letting all of the employees below her know what is going on, i think you are bluffing. i trust her, she's not one of those verizon robots that spouts bs, she's a real person that is honest with me (and my fellow agents), needless to say i'll have to take her word for it.
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i got my info from an m&p. we will see soon enough
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very true, not to say that my am is always right, but she hasn't steered my wrong so far, either way i'm excited for it ๐
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...I posted a screenshot of it in this topic. I don't think it gets more official than that =)
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with a rejection letter. entire process will take up to 3 weeks. i am unsure of what happens when the cust receives the phone ready to work. probably will have to call in and activate it. it appears anyone can do this
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Okay, so since we've proved phoneXpert00 knows absolutely nothing...
By the way, before I continue; are you just a sales representative or a customer service representative? Because if you're going to post information that is going to be of use I guarantee I already have it - and mine is 100% accurate.
Here's proof on the 2/14/08 Open Network. Again, this is only for CDMA devices that are "unlocked" by their respective carriers, and then approved for use on Verizon's network. Unfortunately there is not a list of such devices or anything yet that I could find.
http://bloodiedwraith.250free.com/vzw.jpg »Enjoy!
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O kow this is off subject, but do you know anything about the Q9c being released for Verizon?
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The SKU is active, but no price or release date.
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BloodiedWraith said:
As you have all heard, Verizon is committed to opening it's network to other CDMA devices. This goes into effect February 14th, barring any delays or complications.
Enjoy.
The problem is they are "Other CDMA devices" So why bother? WOW will be able to use a Sprint phone on Verizon's network and you guys are celebrating?
Like you celebrated getting the RAZR after it became old news and the rest of the "old news" phones you are still waiting for......
Next thing you know you will get to pick a phone for its operating system and native GUI rather then it's fashion statement.
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You are so retarded it is just sad...
go read up at rcrnews.com
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also note that this isn't limited to only phones, on or around the 14th they will release network requirements (i would bet my stip that CDMA is a requirement to those who want to talk about GSM). also note, the list provided is only equipment from osp's that have been tested, if its not on the list, just means testing is not complete. doesn't mean it won't work. if you can Frankenstein it right, your fridge will work on vzw! so haters, wait until the dust settles after the 14th and we know all about it before you start spewing your propaganda!
thank you
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hoonder sneets said:
... if you can Frankenstein it right, your fridge will work on vzw! ...u
I tried Frankensteining my fridge and it still would work right in VZW. It kept freezing up on me.
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LMAO! hoy-ohhhh! "how frozen was it?"
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Let me paint you a picture.
Your a crack head.So much so you had to sell a lot of your stuff to pay for crack, this includes your plasma tv. Well you have to have tv to watch while you are cracked out, so you head out to the garage and dig out your grandma's old tv and hook it up to receive over the air broadcasts using a coat hanger and foil from your crack. The good news is your rigging lets you receive some of the free over the air broadcasts in your town. The bad news is that the dial only goes up to 45.
Well it is Monday and after a long day of giving customers the wrong info you head home stressed out and smoke some crack. While sitting on your milk crate you use as a sofa you decide you want to watch some American idol. You wadd...
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don't know why fox is 4 ๐ supposed to be 48,
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you put the "8" right next to the ")" see what you get for supporting emoticons???
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๐คฃ yeah i needed another space in there
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if bill gates knew about this you wouldn't be breathing any more...
totally off topic, i got sent some propaganda email from someone last night with a link to youtube, for a video about how "dub-yah" sold off the rights to U.S. and now we have some N. American Union...no borders, the "amero" is our new dollar, etc...i don't know about you but open borders to our friendly neighbors to the north would do a lot for beer import and export! i could sign onto something like that...the less governing bodies the better! one world leader would rock. we could get away with so much, no way to keep track of all of us hoodlums!
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but then i wouldn't get to look forward to watching the value of the dollar drop every day
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โน๏ธ i don't have any money anyway, i work in a call center in cali, i barely scrape by and i don't have to pay rent so i don't know what i would do if my mommy wasn't here... ๐คฃ
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but she explained that they are going to overylay all towers for GSM its simply didn't' you read that. I think her exact words were its like turning on a switch!! lmao. All 10000 of them simple I tell ya!!
Wow some people!
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Will they let Nextel phones on there too! ๐คฃ
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dssl
Feb 6, 2008, 1:54 PM
That went perfectly with the grav I must say. ๐คฃ
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