Open Access clarification
For those of you questioning the open access...here is some clarification for you. February 14th starts the open access policy. The list of phones that was posted was correct; HOWEVER, you can use other CDMA phones. Here is how. You go to the store and fill out a form, you provide them with the CDMA phone you want to use, they ship your phone to the testing lab and in roughly 3 weeks the phone comes back approved or denied. For the one that asked about the Ocean...it just has to pass testing. The phones on that list are pre-approved because they match previous CDMA phones. For the one who says they work for the company and stated the ability for GSM....Uh...no. Verizon Wireless is a CDMA carrier. GSM phones will not work on Verizon ...
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Still it's only voice so I mean what's the appeal??? yeah for the die hard I hate the ui guys i guess it's an out...but what's the point of having a phone without data....I guess really though most all verizon users are mostly into voice only, so i don't really see the point at this stage at least. what i am missing?
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Well just remember...it was stated that "Open Access" won't be launched until late 2008. The first step is already being made ((happy valentines day to you from Red lol))...so things can change. Not all services may work on the phone...BUT!...ya never know what can happen down the line. I just wonder how many people have realized that if you're the first with the phone to be tested...wave bye bye for 3 weeks(about). Now what remains to be seen is...lets say someone sends an Ocean to be tested...does every person after have to send theirs, or will it go up on the list for "auto approval". Time will tell, but it's a step forward!
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okay so at this point it's a joke! someone gets to send in their crappy lg 6100 from alltel and use it on verizon.. lets jump for joy!
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That would be an auto-approve (more than likely) since it existed on Verizon Wireless's systems. What everyone needs to remember is YOU must acquire the unlock first before Verizon Wireless will even take the phone. But still...it's a start. Everyone always says Verizon Wireless is stuck up and does nothing for the customer....they do a lot more than people really think.
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once the unlock is provided, and testing complete it is then added onto the thereforth "approved devices" list. so if like ten people send in oceans, and a month later someone wants to activate one, it should be on the list. well after all of the RED tape....get it???
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See one of the other responses I posted...I already stated that. But it's all good.
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again, i post something right after you. should i just change my id to phantom's shadow?
my bad dude!
i suck at forums... âšī¸
my bad dude!
i suck at forums... âšī¸
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That was a good phone! And I don't think alltel had it i think cellular one did... which is no more :-(.........
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Phantom1359 said:
Well just remember...it was stated that "Open Access" won't be launched until late 2008. The first step is already being made ((happy valentines day to you from Red lol))...so things can change. Not all services may work on the phone...BUT!...ya never know what can happen down the line. I just wonder how many people have realized that if you're the first with the phone to be tested...wave bye bye for 3 weeks(about). Now what remains to be seen is...lets say someone sends an Ocean to be tested...does every person after have to send theirs, or will it go up on the list for "auto approval". Time will tell, but it's a step forward!
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Yea....they won't be installing anything on your phone...nice try though. That would be illegal for them to take YOUR phone and add to it. But...again. You're entitled to your opinion and no ones forcing you to take part in Verizon Wireless or Open Access.
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>>>>>>you can use other CDMA phones. Here is how. You go to the store and fill out a form, you provide them with the CDMA phone you want to use, they ship your phone to the testing lab and in roughly 3 weeks the phone comes back approved or denied. For the one that asked about the Ocean...it just has to pass testing. The phones on that list are pre-approved because they match previous CDMA phones. For the one who says they work for the company and stated the ability for GSM....Uh...no
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Verizon doesnt make the User Interface đ , the manufacture does. Motorola, LG, Samsung, etc. If you send your Pantech Ocean to VZW's test lab they are not going waste money hacking the phone and make software for it as well as software updates. Now if people on HoFo want to hack it and make it more data friendly then you may see some hacked UI coming about via Bitpim and such.
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wow, you are just getting worse and worse. You are now reacting like Beachslapped did to the Voyager coming out..
Does open access really scare you that much? Does the knowledge that CDMA is better than your pathetic GSM really make you want to cry that much?
Does open access really scare you that much? Does the knowledge that CDMA is better than your pathetic GSM really make you want to cry that much?
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I KNEW Verizon's form of open access would be filled with inconvienience and rule, That comoany never ceases to amaze me,
Give up my phone to the Czar. IF they approve it, they will allow one to use to use it.
You are right when GSM phones can be used on VErizon's network, ONLY then will you have open access worth a crap. UNtil then its like their giantic network,
If you ar here you can get thses sevices but not these, If you are there you can make a call but cannot use the Internet,,,,on and on and on,,,,IN Network or OUT Netowork....
With GSM the national digital signal allows ALL features all the time. If you get bars you have all of it.
Open access my assis...
Give up my phone to the Czar. IF they approve it, they will allow one to use to use it.
You are right when GSM phones can be used on VErizon's network, ONLY then will you have open access worth a crap. UNtil then its like their giantic network,
If you ar here you can get thses sevices but not these, If you are there you can make a call but cannot use the Internet,,,,on and on and on,,,,IN Network or OUT Netowork....
With GSM the national digital signal allows ALL features all the time. If you get bars you have all of it.
Open access my assis...
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GSM will not EVER work on the CDMA network. LTE is NOT GSM, so your GSM handset will not work on LTE.
Also, even with an unlocked GSM handset, some data features of TMO or AT&T may or may not work without tweaking, if at all.
Also, even with an unlocked GSM handset, some data features of TMO or AT&T may or may not work without tweaking, if at all.
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that's not true. you can have any unlocked gsm phone and make it work with att or tmobile. you just have to make sure that the phone has 850-1900 mhz. if by 'tweaking' you mean downloading the internet and mms settings... well, that's a very simple thing to do!
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Astronaut HS 88 said:
GSM will not EVER work on the CDMA network. LTE is NOT GSM, so your GSM handset will not work on LTE.
Also, even with an unlocked GSM handset, some data features of TMO or AT&T may or may not work without tweaking, if at all.
This article seems to prove that wrong. The best thing that could happen for Verizon is to be able to use GSM phones,,,but that won't happen,,,
Verizon dumps CDMA for GSM-based LTE in 4G networks
LTE is a progression of GSM's UMTS platform, making it an ironic choice for CDMA stalwart Verizon and a huge blow for the CDMA Development Group's competing UMB standard.
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Astronaut HS 88 said:
GSM will not EVER work on the CDMA network. LTE is NOT GSM, so your GSM handset will not work on LTE.
LTE is a progression of GSM's UMTS platform, making it an ironic choice for CDMA stalwart Verizon and a huge blow for the CDMA Development Group's competing UMB standard.
Do you hear me now?
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AvgJoe said:
LTE is a progression of GSM's UMTS platform, making it an ironic choice for CDMA stalwart Verizon and a huge blow for the CDMA Development Group's competing UMB standard.
Do you hear me now?
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Actually, what's ironic is that you'd say that, considering that "GSM's UMTS platform" is actually largely based on CDMA technology... or did you not know UMTS by its other name, WCDMA? GSM already LOST the tech war long ago. đ¤Ŗ
Oh, and LTE isn't GSM, though you can quote all the confused tech reporters you'd like... facts are facts, and fact is, GSM is TDMA-based, aka dark ages tech. LTE is OFDM-based, i.e. not the same thing at all. Duhhhhhhhhhhhh. đ
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SystemShock said:...AvgJoe said:
LTE is a progression of GSM's UMTS platform, making it an ironic choice for CDMA stalwart Verizon and a huge blow for the CDMA Development Group's competing UMB standard.
Do you hear me now?
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Actually, what's ironic is that you'd say that, considering that "GSM's UMTS platform" is actually largely based on CDMA technology... or did you not know UMTS by its other name, WCDMA? GSM already LOST the tech war long ago. đ¤Ŗ
Oh, and LTE isn't
GSM, though you can quote all the confused tech reporters you'd like... facts are facts, and fact is, GSM is TDMA-based, aka dark ages tech. LTE is OFDM-based, i.e. not the same thing at all. Duhhhhhhhhh
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Actually, what's ironic is that you'd say that, considering that "GSM's UMTS platform" is actually largely based on CDMA technology... or did you not know UMTS by its other name, WCDMA? GSM already LOST the tech war long ago.
I would not call open access BT, GPS and the use ANY GSM phone losing the "tech war"
I would call that LEADING the tech war....
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AVG Joe does not know that the GSM carriers 3g is not based off GSM. He stoped responing to another thread when I pointed this out. But he still doesn't get it!
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wombough said:
AVG Joe does not know that the GSM carriers 3g is not based off GSM. He stoped responing to another thread when I pointed this out. But he still doesn't get it!
Well, yes Wom, but keep in mind that he can't help it, on account of being highly stupid. đŗ
It's okay, I'm sure he gets a swell short bus to ride around in, and his walking helmet probably has pretty star decals on it.
In fact, this would be a pic of AJ. He's a cute lil' devil:
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Get with the times, Joey... VZW started easing off the BT crippling awhile ago. GPS? Well, let's see what the open network initiative does... that starts in three days.
Yeah, it sure is funny that GSM had to run crying to CDMA to get a decent air interface for their 3G. But that's what happens when you rely on stone-age tech.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go light a fire by rubbing two GSM handsets together...
Yeah, it sure is funny that GSM had to run crying to CDMA to get a decent air interface for their 3G. But that's what happens when you rely on stone-age tech.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go light a fire by rubbing two GSM handsets together...
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SystemShock said:
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go light a fire by rubbing two GSM handsets together...
OK I know you are living in the past on past glory ..but here's a tip. Use a match or lighter.
"easing off the BT crippling" Either you can use all the BT features or you can't. Easing off? What's that? Almost pregnant?
Yeah and GPS ..So far what I have read bout Verizon's "open source" is not impressive...."Send your new phone to Verizon AFTER you buy it to see if it will work? WTF? That's open source? Can't wait to see what their version of open source GPS will be. Point your phone at the sun?
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AvgJoe said:SystemShock said:
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go light a fire by rubbing two GSM handsets together...
OK I know you are living in the past on past glory ..but here's a tip. Use a match or lighter.
Wow... you're getting pretty high tech there for a GSM user. Didn't you guys just discover the wheel and fire last week? đ
"easing off the BT crippling" Either you can use all the BT features or you can't. Easing off? What's that? Almost pregnant?
Don't know what to tell ya, Joey... I transfer pics just fine to my laptop from my allegedly 'crippled' VZW phone. Maybe if you weren't obsessed with 'VZW 2005', you'd be u...
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And what phone is that that can transfer ALL pics, files and ring tones via BT to and from your notebook. RAZR ? Depends on the firmware, user generated contact only? Come on there has to be limitations somewhere........
As long as Verizon has Kool-Aid drinkers they will charge for GPS and you will have to use Cell towers rather then satellites. You will HAVE to be IN Network to use GPS. What good is GPS if you cannot use it ANYWHERE? And WHY PAY FOR THAT?
As long as Verizon has Kool-Aid drinkers they will charge for GPS and you will have to use Cell towers rather then satellites. You will HAVE to be IN Network to use GPS. What good is GPS if you cannot use it ANYWHERE? And WHY PAY FOR THAT?
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And you saying this like its all CDMA carriers. Sprint does not cripple nor does alltel. So what does this have to do with CDMA vs GSM. Really come on. ANd my friend has a phone from verizon and I jsut downloaded some pics from his phone to my laptop it worked fine!
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C'mon Joe, you know as well as I do that any VZW user worth their salt has been pic mailing ringtones to their phone and going around what's left of VZW's restrictions there. So why are you still bitching? Oh, that's right... you need something to bitch about, unless its GSM and ATT, and then you hump the leg. đ
Far as GPS goes, I'll see what the open network brings. The funny thing? It hasn't even STARTED yet and you're already crying about it. đŗ
Man, what did VZW do to you... run over your dog and steal your prom date?
Who hurt you, Joe... *whispers*.... who hurt you? đ¤Ŗ
I mean, ATT totally sucks in my neck of the woods, but you don't see me running crying, screaming and wetting my pants to the ATT forum, demanding ...
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Far as GPS goes, I'll see what the open network brings. The funny thing? It hasn't even STARTED yet and you're already crying about it. đŗ
Man, what did VZW do to you... run over your dog and steal your prom date?
Who hurt you, Joe... *whispers*.... who hurt you? đ¤Ŗ
I mean, ATT totally sucks in my neck of the woods, but you don't see me running crying, screaming and wetting my pants to the ATT forum, demanding ...
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you know most complain becuase they know how good something is and if they convince themself its bad then they can live with their choice! đ
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wombough said:
you know most complain becuase they know how good something is and if they convince themself its bad then they can live with their choice! đ
Yeah, I guess it is kinda like buyer's remorse for him... he spent too much money on his high-end Nokias, and all just to get crap signal on ATT. He dropped one too many calls, and... boing! Went totally berserk. đ˛
Now he haunts the VZW forums, sucking the intelligence of the living.... đ
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YOu wish you could get a Nokia N95 on Verizon LOL. You guys are stick with RAZRs and Chocolates? and other candy phones. You guys are creaming over the Curve which is old news. The RAZR Vm has 1/2 the processor of its GSM counterpart...Yeah its the phones.
I paid for the phone I wanted. I don't live from upgrade to upgrade like you guys .....marking my calender to the day when I can get Free phone or $50 off a crippled phone with the same old GUI.
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I paid for the phone I wanted. I don't live from upgrade to upgrade like you guys .....marking my calender to the day when I can get Free phone or $50 off a crippled phone with the same old GUI.
Yeah Im mad as hell đ¤Ŗ
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AvgJoe said:
Yeah Im mad as hell đ¤Ŗ :
Of course you are. Nothing else would explain your sad, little boy, trolling behavior. đ˛
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SO you cannot BT ringtones? LOL You have to somehow go around the "System" And open source....DO you even know what Verizon considers open source? Sending a purchased phone in for a few weeks to see if it works? Thats all I have seen as far as their open source.
Verizon does not suck in my neck of the woods. They just don't have the phone features I actually use. Their GPS is tower based (and costs more to use it) I guess its not even considered data, You cannot buy a phone with native GUI, They claim to have the fastest data. They better have becasue you need it for everything.They are learning though and slowly adapting to the way of the GSM Carriers. Even getting their phones.
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Verizon does not suck in my neck of the woods. They just don't have the phone features I actually use. Their GPS is tower based (and costs more to use it) I guess its not even considered data, You cannot buy a phone with native GUI, They claim to have the fastest data. They better have becasue you need it for everything.They are learning though and slowly adapting to the way of the GSM Carriers. Even getting their phones.
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GSM Carriers are learning to that GSM has gone as far as it can go and will go bye bye once WCDMA is deployed network wide. They will switch voice over to it too and GSM will be just history!
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wombough said:
GSM Carriers are learning to that GSM has gone as far as it can go and will go bye bye once WCDMA is deployed network wide. They will switch voice over to it too and GSM will be just history!
And good riddance to it too... the hard-handoffs, the slow data, the intolerance of weaker signals, the dropped calls... I think I saw some caveman drawings the other day... in them were the schematics to a GSM handset. đ
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wombough said:
GSM Carriers are learning to that GSM has gone as far as it can go and will go bye bye once WCDMA is deployed network wide. They will switch voice over to it too and GSM will be just history!
And? If that were to happen ATT will Still get better open source phones because Verizon cannot keep their hands out of their customer's pockets.
IF GSM Carriers switch to WCDMA for voice world wide Veriaon will be in deep trouble. They hang their hat on their supposed better network. IF the networks are equal why go with Verizon?
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Gosh, it's not a 'supposedly' better network, Joey... its just a better network.
Check out churn rates, JD Power, Consumer Reports, 3G coverage, whatever... ATT is still behind the times. Nothin' new there, though. And kind of crappy customer service to boot.
But look on the bright side... ATT is so awesome, they're getting a lot of PREPAID folks to sign up! Good to know that you're part of that discerning audience of ppl who couldn't pass a credit check! đ
Check out churn rates, JD Power, Consumer Reports, 3G coverage, whatever... ATT is still behind the times. Nothin' new there, though. And kind of crappy customer service to boot.
But look on the bright side... ATT is so awesome, they're getting a lot of PREPAID folks to sign up! Good to know that you're part of that discerning audience of ppl who couldn't pass a credit check! đ
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SystemShock said:
Gosh, it's not a 'supposedly' better network, Joey... its just a better network.
Check out churn rates, JD Power, Consumer Reports, 3G coverage, whatever... ATT is still behind the times. Nothin' new there, though. And kind of crappy customer service to boot.
But look on the bright side... ATT is so awesome, they're getting a lot of PREPAID folks to sign up! Good to know that you're part of that discerning audience of ppl who couldn't pass a credit check! đ
You're reaching now, I could care less about ATT's business results or their JD Power ratings. I ONLY care about what they do for ME.
AM I satisfied? Yes. Do I care about pre paid ? NO. Im not even on contract. No ince...
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AvgJoe said:
I could care less about ATT's business results or their JD Power ratings. I ONLY care about what they do for ME.
AM I satisfied? Yes.
Of course. Like you said, you don't care about signal. Durhhhhhh... đ
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SystemShock said:AvgJoe said:
I could care less about ATT's business results or their JD Power ratings. I ONLY care about what they do for ME.
AM I satisfied? Yes.
Of course. Like you said, you don't care about signal. Durhhhhhh... đ
I said I would rather live with ATT's worse signal then Verizon's best phone. A few dropped calls are a small price to pay for the freedom and flexibility of GSM networks, VEry small price.
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man I am missing sooooo much flexibility. What am I thinking for choosing CDMA. Along with 150 million other people. We all must be so stupid.
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wombough said:
man I am missing sooooo much flexibility. What am I thinking for choosing CDMA. Along with 150 million other people. We all must be so stupid.
Yeah, and we miss the thrill of ATT's dropped calls and crappy CS. Will my call go through, or not? And will the ATT CSR on the phone be helpful, or surly?
Ooooh.... SO exciting!!! đ
No wonder CDMA is more popular in the US than GSM.
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WCDMA and CDMA are equal and its not jsut the tech that makes things better. Sprint alltel and verizon are equal. But other things make them appealing to people.
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LOL. For chrissake Joey, come on out of the stone age. You actually WANT to learn a new UI with every single phone you buy? Gosh, your social life may be a bit slow, but other people's aren't. Look at computers... do you see a 'Sony' OS, a 'Dell' OS, an 'eMachines', an 'HP' OS? Nope, you see ONE OS, unless you go slap Linux on that baby. Why? Because ppl would rather GET THINGS DONE with their stuff, than re-learn everything every time. Durhhhh.
But what else can I expect from a guy who says signal doesn't matter, and thinks LTE is GSM? đ¤Ŗ
But what else can I expect from a guy who says signal doesn't matter, and thinks LTE is GSM? đ¤Ŗ
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Quick question, do you even know what "in" network means? It does not mean that you are in a Verizon home calling area. It refers to all Verizon users, example "in" calling is calling any Verizon customer on there Verizon phone. What do you think unlimited "in" calling refers to? If it meant what you apparently think it does then you would get free calling from the Verizon home area, not quite the case. Also to let you know (since it seems things have to be spelled out for you to maybe understand but I doubt you will) out of network refers to any non Verizon customer not using another company's towers thats called extended network. I hope you can understand this, but I doubt you will.
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I'll have what you're smoking, if you honestly think LTE is anything like GSM. đ
"Durhhhhhhhhhh, OFDM-based and TDMA-based are like the same thing, 'cuz I misread somethin' on the internets. Durrhhhhhhhhh." đ¤Ŗ
"Durhhhhhhhhhh, OFDM-based and TDMA-based are like the same thing, 'cuz I misread somethin' on the internets. Durrhhhhhhhhh." đ¤Ŗ
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SystemShock said:
I'll have what you're smoking, if you honestly think LTE is anything like GSM. đ
"Durhhhhhhhhhh, OFDM-based and TDMA-based are like the same thing, 'cuz I misread somethin' on the internets. Durrhhhhhhhhh." đ¤Ŗ
Just reading your posts "cuz" "somthin" like duuuuude....leads me to believe waht I read on real tech sites are far far more credible than what you say....
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"Durrhhhh, GSM is LTE 'cuz I say so. And the Earth is actually flat, and Jessica Alba wants me too!!! Oh, and my Daewoo is COOL! Durhhhhh!" đ¤Ŗ
Joe, c'mon, no one is this dumb. You're making me laugh so hard I'm tearing up. đ
Joe, c'mon, no one is this dumb. You're making me laugh so hard I'm tearing up. đ
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SystemShock said:
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Joe, c'mon, no one is this dumb. You're making me laugh so hard I'm tearing up. đ
Oh yeah Someone is indeed this dumb.....and he's laughing so hard he's "in tears"
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Wow... I think you've hit some sort of 'dumbness' event horizon... no light can escape.
"LTE is GSM... durhhhhhh...." đ¤Ŗ
Stop it Joe, yer killin' me! đ
"LTE is GSM... durhhhhhh...." đ¤Ŗ
Stop it Joe, yer killin' me! đ
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He thinks because CDMA group is mad as they went with GSM. Well there mad at sprint to because they did not upgrade to 4g CDMA either which is EVDO Rev C
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Astronaut HS 88 said:
GSM will not EVER work on the CDMA network. LTE is NOT GSM, so your GSM handset will not work on LTE.
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AT&T is similarly positioned (as Verizon) to switch to LTE and could for the first time allow roaming between its network and Verizon's, increasing the overall coverage between the two services. Customers from AT&T with LTE cellphones should also be able to port their phones to Verizon's newly open network without being locked to the latter provider's choice of software. However, the break will also isolate smaller carriers such as Alltel and Sprint, both of whom have either revealed no immediate plans beyond 3G (in the case of Alltel) or which have...
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Well, let us look at this logically.
By the end of 2007 Q1 GSM had: 94,365,408 subscribers in USA/Canada
http://www.gsmworld.com/news/statistics/pdf/gsma_sta ... »
By the end of 2007 Q1 CDMA had: 118,020,000 subscribers in USA/Canada
http://www.cdg.org/worldwide/archives/cdma_world_sub ... »
So if you are one the 118,020,000 (134,600,000 based on 3Q 2007) users, wouldn't you want to take your phone with you to another carrier?
GSM 3Q 2007 USA/Canada stats not available.
Sure there are more GSM users Worldwide but what does that have to do with Verizon?
By the end of 2007 Q1 GSM had: 94,365,408 subscribers in USA/Canada
http://www.gsmworld.com/news/statistics/pdf/gsma_sta ... »
By the end of 2007 Q1 CDMA had: 118,020,000 subscribers in USA/Canada
http://www.cdg.org/worldwide/archives/cdma_world_sub ... »
So if you are one the 118,020,000 (134,600,000 based on 3Q 2007) users, wouldn't you want to take your phone with you to another carrier?
GSM 3Q 2007 USA/Canada stats not available.
Sure there are more GSM users Worldwide but what does that have to do with Verizon?
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I guess I find this process unnecessary. A CDMA from Sanyo, Samsung, Panasonic, etc. out to work as long as it has the proper freq, similar to GSM, I imagine. And why would every person's Rumor need to be sent in? A Sprint Rumor is a Rumor is a Rumor.
I imagine there will be quick approvals added to the list.
I imagine there will be quick approvals added to the list.
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I'm betting once one has been sent in and approved, they'll be added to the list. However...if 5 people send one in...then yea obviously each one..But if someone sends one and 3 months later someone else wants to add it...should be no problem. The only difference would be a Sprint Rumor vs an Altell version of the Rumor...reason being...different crap added from each company so...there may be a difference...
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I'm not sure anyone is going to understand this...everything I've read in tech forums about open access has been misinformed and short sighted...but I'll give it a go.
If you think open access is all about phones... you're really missing the point.
If you think you are all going to individually submit handsets...you're really missing the point.
If you think this will happen in 2008...you're really drinking too much red kool-aid.
If you think open access is all about phones... you're really missing the point.
If you think you are all going to individually submit handsets...you're really missing the point.
If you think this will happen in 2008...you're really drinking too much red kool-aid.
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See "GSM" essentially open to ANY GSM device and software made by anyone.
See Nokia Symbian.... can run software developed by anyone
See Mozilla
See Linux
See BT Many Java APIs use BT technology to do many things.
For Verizon true 'open access" would be the equivalent of being able to buy any Sprint or Alltel phone and use it on your Verizon account immediately
Verizon's idea of open access is to give them the new phone you just bought for a few weeks and let them "test" it....
See Nokia Symbian.... can run software developed by anyone
See Mozilla
See Linux
See BT Many Java APIs use BT technology to do many things.
For Verizon true 'open access" would be the equivalent of being able to buy any Sprint or Alltel phone and use it on your Verizon account immediately
Verizon's idea of open access is to give them the new phone you just bought for a few weeks and let them "test" it....
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I'm not sure I like this policy. Let's say you buy an Ocean which is going for about $150 on ebay. You send it out and wait for a few weeks only to find out that the phone has been denied. Now you have a phone that you can't use, and you're out $150. Lame policy.
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I'm finding the "send-it-out policy a bit far fetched.
I would imagine you would send out some type of device that hasn't been ever put on any type of network. Lets say you develop some kind of telementry device, like a squirrel tracking device or something, that would need to be tested, but handsets already approved by the FCC with all the specs already distributed, I couln't see those being an issue.
No one knows exactly what yet, so it's a wait and see thing for now.
I would imagine you would send out some type of device that hasn't been ever put on any type of network. Lets say you develop some kind of telementry device, like a squirrel tracking device or something, that would need to be tested, but handsets already approved by the FCC with all the specs already distributed, I couln't see those being an issue.
No one knows exactly what yet, so it's a wait and see thing for now.
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