Verizon has no perks!
tmobile, alltel, att, and sprint all have some kind of appealing perks, yet verizon doesn't even offer the ability to pay more for early nights! I know all the kool aid answers like we're the best we have 'IN' minutes and we pay more for less because we rule. But really why doesn't verizon offer something else to its customers, when they could even make more money???
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Really tho, i know verizon is a top notch company and is pretty much kicking everyone asses on net add, but why not offer added perks for even more revenue?
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BROWN27 said:
Really tho, i know verizon is a top notch company and is pretty much kicking everyone asses on net add, but why not offer added perks for even more revenue?
Why give away what you don't need to? IF it's not broke...Don't fix it. Verizon will fix what needs to be fixed to stay competitive. Things that are important to users.
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BROWN27 said:
tmobile, alltel, att, and sprint all have some kind of appealing perks, yet verizon doesn't even offer the ability to pay more for early nights! I know all the kool aid answers like we're the best we have 'IN' minutes and we pay more for less because we rule. But really why doesn't verizon offer something else to its customers, when they could even make more money???
Uh They don't have to......People are STILL signing up and paying for their plans as is.
They are making some changes though but that won't be one of them. Especially with those who will buy unlimited plans.
Why do you think Sprint is giving away the farm? Here's a hint...Its becasue they NEED to draw customers and that's al...
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so att does roll over because they need to??? same for the early 7pm option?
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What I'm asking is ATT can't get net add like verizon, so they provide roll over as appose to providing a quality network, is that what you're saying?
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BROWN27 said:
What I'm asking is ATT can't get net add like verizon, so they provide roll over as appose to providing a quality network, is that what you're saying?
Net adds mean nothing because they only reflect CONTRACTED accounts. I look at the big picture. Where are the MOST customers today. Who is using the network whether pre paid (which is more profitable) or post paid.
Contracts mean nothing. IN that regard Verizon added LESS new users to their network. I see that trend continuing and apparently Verizon agrees otherwise why bring the Unlimited plans out.
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So att is happy with a million gofone users, and laughs in the face of verizon with all their post paid adds? ? and how do you figure pre-paid trackphone, boost, or your gophones users to be more profitable than contract post paid accounts 😕
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BROWN27 said:
So att is happy with a million gofone users, and laughs in the face of verizon with all their post paid adds? ? and how do you figure pre-paid trackphone, boost, or your gophones users to be more profitable than contract post paid accounts 😕
Pre paid costs more per minute to use and payment is guaranteed.
All ATT cares about is money coming in TODAY. Pre paid is more expensive and thats a great source of income. Yeah it does not give one "bragging" rights as to POST paid. But they are still adding to the bottom line in a big way and they could have chosen ANYONE's Pre Paid. I think the whole Bru Ha ha regarding post paid vs Pre Paid is foolish..The important thing is PAID whether pre o...
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how is payment guaranteed, i have never used pre paid, but cant you just stop filling your cards anytime you want then flake out, right? doesn't matter anyways cuz last quarter verizon still had a higher APRU, so that kills that thought of yours anyways!
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YEah you can stop at anytime. But the point is the minutes cost more. And HAVE to be paid up front.
MOST pre paid users chose ATT. I wonder why that is. That has to indicate something. Those customers are probably mostly 11-16 year olds who's parents want to control phone use. As well as those with screwed up credit who "just have to have a cell phone" They will pay.
The Carriers would love to obligate people if only to determine future income. There are many like me who are month to month as well and do not live from upgrade to upgrade.
MOST pre paid users chose ATT. I wonder why that is. That has to indicate something. Those customers are probably mostly 11-16 year olds who's parents want to control phone use. As well as those with screwed up credit who "just have to have a cell phone" They will pay.
The Carriers would love to obligate people if only to determine future income. There are many like me who are month to month as well and do not live from upgrade to upgrade.
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AvgJoe said:
The Carriers would love to obligate people if only to determine future income.
Joe you said nothing- expect cementing my point!
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I have to agree with Brown27. Saying prepaid customers are more profitable than post paid customers is one of the most absurd statements I have ever read on this bored.
It is worse than newtothis' annoying messages and the LTE/GSM discussion.
It is worse than newtothis' annoying messages and the LTE/GSM discussion.
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85percent said:
did you just say prepaid is more profitable then postpaid??
http://www.billingworld.com/articles/feature/The-Pot ... »
Yes thats what I said. It cost more to use and the carrier has a much better opportunity to convert them to post paid.
"The reports showed that a Calltrack prepaid subscriber was actually more profitable than their traditional postpaid subscribers by a huge margin. "
http://www.strategy-business.com/press/enewsarticle/ ... » (Even back in 2002 they saw this)
http://www.bharatbook.com/detail.asp?id=42955 »
http://www.tdap.co.uk/uk/archive/billing/bill(conver ... »
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Nice article from 2004 Joe, yes their is profit noone is arguing that, but not more profitable than long term higher ARPU customer..now gather up your toys and come with something stronger than that! 🙄
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BROWN27 said:
Nice article from 2004 Joe, yes their is profit noone is arguing that, but not more profitable than long term higher ARPU customer..now gather up your toys and come with something stronger than that! 🙄
There is an article from 2002 that has come to fruitation today as well.
The point is Pre paids are money in the bank and count towards the bottom line. Something Sprint has not seen in a long time.
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vzw sucks its losing more customers everyday then any other network. You cant stay on top forever. It make no sense why they don't have roll over minutes,there your minutes. Thats why people are switching to boost.
Boost is having a sale on phones today
Boost is having a sale on phones today
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BROWN27 said:
verizon has the lowest churn, sry game over for you!
By a fraction......and what kind of churn?
Customers leave for a variety of reasons that have nothing to do with satisfaction. Some are voluntary, uninitiated, and forced.
Could the loss of pre paid be considered churn? If so ATT number are skewed as far as post paid churn sine they have more pre paid.
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🤣 🤣 your like shark that had a stroke, you just keep circling and circling! 🤣 🤣
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crackberry said:
verizon is .3% lower than at&t
Damm they are KILLING ATT.....I wonder if pre paid losses are considered in the churn numbers. IF so ATT would be ahead.
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no. at&t has a higher prepaid customer base than verizon and prepaid churn is higher than postpaid so all the way around vzw has lower churn. but postpaid is only a .3% difference.
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bwhahahahahaha
people arent switching to boost because of roll over minutes. boost doesnt have them either. why? because its frickin pre-pay. and the minutes expire after 90 days anyway. i thought they were your minutes? so why does boost take them away from you after 3 months??
and roll over is a joke anyway. if you are rolling over minutes every month, then you are on a rate plan that is too high for you and you could save money by getting on a lower plan. i lol at ppl who say they have 3000 or whatever roll over mins saved up, because if you were able to bank that many minutes, you will never use them all. think about it people
people arent switching to boost because of roll over minutes. boost doesnt have them either. why? because its frickin pre-pay. and the minutes expire after 90 days anyway. i thought they were your minutes? so why does boost take them away from you after 3 months??
and roll over is a joke anyway. if you are rolling over minutes every month, then you are on a rate plan that is too high for you and you could save money by getting on a lower plan. i lol at ppl who say they have 3000 or whatever roll over mins saved up, because if you were able to bank that many minutes, you will never use them all. think about it people
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freedomcapcity said:
bwhahahahahaha
and roll over is a joke anyway. if you are rolling over minutes every month, then you are on a rate plan that is too high for you and you could save money by getting on a lower plan. i lol at ppl who say they have 3000 or whatever roll over mins saved up, because if you were able to bank that many minutes, you will never use them all. think about it people
Not if you are already on the lowest plan.
Thats where Roll Over shines.
550 a month $39........use 200 minutes have well over a 2000 float= NEVER having to worry about higher than normal usage.
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BROWN27 said:
so att does roll over because they need to??? same for the early 7pm option?
ATT offered ROLL OVER becasue they wanted to distinguish themselves from the rest of the carriers. And it worked. No other Carriers followed suit.
You pay for minutes every month. You get to keep them for a whole year. Thats kind of hard to refute. Its great for us low plan users who can bank a bunch and use them when we need to.
MOST customers are lower end users so this affects most of the user base and actually helps KEEP them becasue who wants to leave 2000 minutes on the table and go to another carrier unless they cannot get a signal if they move.
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Way to duck and weave, thanks for the education on roll over 🙄 So tmobile offers my fav to differentiate themselves too? and sprint new plans to differentiate themselves?
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At times, he can be. You guys sure have a field day with him, at times.
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BROWN27 said:
Way to duck and weave, thanks for the education on roll over 🙄 So tmobile offers my fav to differentiate themselves too? and sprint new plans to differentiate themselves?
Sprint followed the crowd. They followed ATT with Roll Over and called it Fair and Something or another. Sprint has it's own issues and I suggest you spend some time using your vast knowledge and experience in helping them rather than trying to drag the successful down to make Sprint seem closer....
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Thanks but I don't need your acknowledgment, I already knew that I know more than you about wireless. Anyways you have derailed my thread but I played along, and shot holes in all your weak arguments. This thread is about Verizon and their lack of perks, I mentioned all the carriers that offer perks. Maybe someone will actually take a stab of my question. Game over for you Joe, thanks for playing!
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BROWN27 said:
Thanks but I don't need your acknowledgment, I already knew that I know more than you about wireless. Anyways you have derailed my thread but I played along, and shot holes in all your weak arguments. This thread is about Verizon and their lack of perks, I mentioned all the carriers that offer perks. Maybe someone will actually take a stab of my question. Game over for you Joe, thanks for playing!
Must suck to have to defend yourself so vehemently because of Sprint. Just switch to Verizon and get over it.
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What? 🤣 LOL Your comments are of one who has been defeated and humiliated. Anyways I don’t let Sprint's troubles as a company affect my personal experience with them. I mean you love ATT despite the static, and dropped calls. I’m willing to talk with anyone about Sprints shortcoming and their strong attributes, or any carrier for that matter. It’s you Mr. Poopie pants Joe that’s constantly slandering Verizon with your constant assault of very lame commie, crippled UI statements. I think you're taking this site to serious, I love my Sprint data card, DC and Touch phones! 😉 😎 😁
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BROWN27 said:
What? 🤣 LOL Your comments are of one who has been defeated and humiliated. Anyways I don’t let Sprint's troubles as a company affect my personal experience with them. I mean you love ATT despite the static, and dropped calls. I’m willing to talk with anyone about Sprints shortcoming and their strong attributes, or any carrier for that matter. It’s you Mr. Poopie pants Joe that’s constantly slandering Verizon with your constant assault of very lame commie, crippled UI statements. I think you're taking this site to serious, I love my Sprint data card, DC and Touch phones! 😉 😎 😁
You are with Sprint. I feel your pain of being with a Carrier that gets no respect f...
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I however speak about what's real
Verizon DOES cripple their phones. Thats not slander. Thats fact. I suggested the reason Verizon gets phones a year after they are released is not becasue of testing for "reliability". Its to cripple features and still make the phone work as intended NOT by the manufacturer but by Verizon.
THe same UI on all phones is great for those who don't want to pick up a book when switching phones. But I believe its for a business reason. Dumb down your user base so ALL competitors phones look daunting and difficult to learn as well hide certain features that may be available on the other Carrier's same phone.
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Everyone else is right in the don't fix it if it isn't broken policy. Though perks are In the eye of the beholder.
For me, unlike others will claim, roll over doesn't mean a thing. At the end of the month and I had Cingular so speaking from experience, I'm still on the same plan, with minutes "just in case". Big deal. I never once used those, I also worked for Cingular at one point and most customers never touched theirs before they expired either. To me its a gimmick, for some it works I won't deny. But hey that's my 2 cents on that.
Verizon has the network, customer arcice according to the majority, new every two which no one else does. 100 extra bucks off the price of a new customer. Other places treat you like a new customer ...
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For me, unlike others will claim, roll over doesn't mean a thing. At the end of the month and I had Cingular so speaking from experience, I'm still on the same plan, with minutes "just in case". Big deal. I never once used those, I also worked for Cingular at one point and most customers never touched theirs before they expired either. To me its a gimmick, for some it works I won't deny. But hey that's my 2 cents on that.
Verizon has the network, customer arcice according to the majority, new every two which no one else does. 100 extra bucks off the price of a new customer. Other places treat you like a new customer ...
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Every carrier has a network 🙄 just another kool aid response! Do they stamp cherry kool aid fan boys off the same press as their commie loving phones!
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Right because fan boys say another carrier has the best perk, please come up with something original and then try to stab with insults instead of the ignorant fan not response.
Secondly, when comparing, NO ONE has the same network quality nationally, that, my friend, is considered a perk. Yes you may get better service with others and I'm naïve enough to say AT&T might not be able to beat Verizon in some areas. But hey I'm to much of a fan not to admit Verizon isn't best everywhere, so ignore any of the above, I must have gone crazy for a moment. 🙄
Secondly, when comparing, NO ONE has the same network quality nationally, that, my friend, is considered a perk. Yes you may get better service with others and I'm naïve enough to say AT&T might not be able to beat Verizon in some areas. But hey I'm to much of a fan not to admit Verizon isn't best everywhere, so ignore any of the above, I must have gone crazy for a moment. 🙄
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rjsumthin said:
Secondly, when comparing, NO ONE has the same network quality nationally, that, my friend, is considered a perk. :
Totally brainwashed!! 🙄 Prove it! You can't so shutie!
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Anyone first of all who knows anything about this business knows Verizon has the network, its proven time in and time out. I'm typing these from my pda so I can't reference. links but check jd powers and all othe network surveys.
Truth be told you just don't have enough to prove that they do NOT have the best network. No one in the past few years has come close to winning any of the studies.
Keep talking your fan boy talk, you sound more brainwashed than what you would call a fan boy.
So in basic terms to make sure you can understand. Quit trying to use that tired fan boy insult. I said specifically not everywhere is Verizon best, pretty obvious that's not a fan boy response.
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Truth be told you just don't have enough to prove that they do NOT have the best network. No one in the past few years has come close to winning any of the studies.
Keep talking your fan boy talk, you sound more brainwashed than what you would call a fan boy.
So in basic terms to make sure you can understand. Quit trying to use that tired fan boy insult. I said specifically not everywhere is Verizon best, pretty obvious that's not a fan boy response.
Also I said Verizon didn't have the best per...
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Anyone first of all who knows anything about this business knows Verizon has the network, its proven time in and time out. I'm typing these from my pda so I can't reference. links but check jd powers and all othe network surveys.
Truth be told you just don't have enough to prove that they do NOT have the best network. No one in the past few years has come close to winning any of the studies.
Keep talking your fan boy talk, you sound more brainwashed than what you would call a fan boy.
So in basic terms to make sure you can understand. Quit trying to use that tired fan boy insult. I said specifically not everywhere is Verizon best, pretty obvious that's not a fan boy response.
Also I s
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You may not be used to this. But. As big a Verizon wireless fan I am, I am a fan boy of Verizon just as you are gsm, though I'm not naïve enough to say that its the best for everyone.
Though I will agree with you to some extent. Coverage isn't a main selling point to all, however neithe is sim cards to some as well, I personally wouldn't mind it and the freedom, though its not as big a deal to me as you.
The point to this post is to list perks. I've read plenty of your posts and you seem like an intelligent enough guy to be able to admit, reliable coverage over other carriers, (not to say always more reliable, but consistently) is a perk. A perk doesn't have to work for everyone its in the eye of the beholder.
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Though I will agree with you to some extent. Coverage isn't a main selling point to all, however neithe is sim cards to some as well, I personally wouldn't mind it and the freedom, though its not as big a deal to me as you.
The point to this post is to list perks. I've read plenty of your posts and you seem like an intelligent enough guy to be able to admit, reliable coverage over other carriers, (not to say always more reliable, but consistently) is a perk. A perk doesn't have to work for everyone its in the eye of the beholder.
Again, opin...
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You may not be used to this. But. As big a Verizon wireless fan I am, I am a fan boy of Verizon just as you are gsm, though I'm not naïve enough to say that its the best for everyone.
Though I will agree with you to some extent. Coverage isn't a main selling point to all, however neithe is sim cards to some as well, I personally wouldn't mind it and the freedom, though its not as big a deal to me as you.
The point to this post is to list perks. I've read plenty of your posts and you seem like an intelligent enough guy to be able to admit, reliable coverage over other carriers, (not to say always more reliable, but consistently) is a perk. A perk doesn't have to work for everyone its in the
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Exactly so all this crap of yours, we have best network look it up!! What bS! Unbelievable fan boy, makes me wanna vomit!
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Your unbelievable knack at making sure to provide absolutely no useful information and idiotic criticism makes me want to vomit.
You may not find coverage as a perk, many however do. I work in the industry taking 50 calls a day. Plenty of people give up the "freedom" for a superior network. I hear it every day.
Contrary to your close minded idiotic and quite hilarious opinions, you fail to see that there are opinions other than yours. And by definition you fit the endearment (title, for those vocabulary challenged illiterate folks as yourself) of fan boy.
But I forget that people that actually use that terminology so willingly are to thick headed to understand anything outside of their fragile egos. Think outside the box a...
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You may not find coverage as a perk, many however do. I work in the industry taking 50 calls a day. Plenty of people give up the "freedom" for a superior network. I hear it every day.
Contrary to your close minded idiotic and quite hilarious opinions, you fail to see that there are opinions other than yours. And by definition you fit the endearment (title, for those vocabulary challenged illiterate folks as yourself) of fan boy.
But I forget that people that actually use that terminology so willingly are to thick headed to understand anything outside of their fragile egos. Think outside the box a...
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