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High Speed Data (EV-DO)

BeachSlapped

Feb 10, 2005, 12:15 PM
Is EV-DO as fast as EDGE?
I mean are the equally fast? what I'm trying to ask is: is EDGE the GSM's EV-DO? or is it UMTS the GSM EV-DO? Can someone clarify this for me?
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muchdrama

Feb 10, 2005, 2:44 PM
BeachSlapped said:
Is EV-DO as fast as EDGE?
I mean are the equally fast? what I'm trying to ask is: is EDGE the GSM's EV-DO? or is it UMTS the GSM EV-DO? Can someone clarify this for me?
EV DO has so far demonstrated that it is superior to EDGE. The CDMA technology offers speeds somewhere on the average of 300-500 kbps...but myself and others have experienced speeds exceeding 700 kbps. EDGE, a GSM technology, will usually give you speeds somewhere in the area of 100-200 kbps, if you're lucky.
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bigdaddyjay

Feb 10, 2005, 4:49 PM
I would agree, EV DO blows the door off of EDGE and UMTS. I have tested speeds anywhere from 700kps to 3.5mps with compression software installed.
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muchdrama

Feb 11, 2005, 2:46 PM
bigdaddyjay said:
I would agree, EV DO blows the door off of EDGE and UMTS. I have tested speeds anywhere from 700kps to 3.5mps with compression software installed.
I don't know about 3.5 mbps, but I wouldn't say that EV DO blows the doors off UMTS. We haven't seen what UMTS can do, and I won't pass judgement until I've seen it up and running in more areas.
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bigdaddyjay

Feb 11, 2005, 5:44 PM
I have run speed tests on Toast.net and seen the results. I have also heard from family at Verizon that they have seen speeds all the way up to 8mps on a few occasions.
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muchdrama

Feb 12, 2005, 3:53 PM
bigdaddyjay said:
I have run speed tests on Toast.net and seen the results. I have also heard from family at Verizon that they have seen speeds all the way up to 8mps on a few occasions.
Like I said...I haven't seen this substantiated on any website, in any magazine, or any periodical. But that wasn't even my point...I was just commenting on how you can't say that EV DO blows the doors off UMTS.
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adilus

Feb 13, 2005, 10:16 AM
I have used UMTS on the 2200 Mhz freq in Tokyo and it was excellent. As for the speeds, I recieved about 400 kbps sustained.

Keep in mind that these speeds are with the 2 million people that live in Tokyo and live on their cell phones.

The actual speeds we're gonna see in the states is probably gonna be close to this once it gets completely deployed and people buy into it. Yeah, we hear Ev-DO version whatever can do 2 mbps sustained and UMTS can do 500 kbps sustained and whatever, but keep in mind that these are either lab speeds or low usuage speeds. Wait till the switches get full with users... thats gonna be the true test. Anybody who has cable internet will attest to what I'm sayin.
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muchdrama

Feb 13, 2005, 1:16 PM
adilus said:
I have used UMTS on the 2200 Mhz freq in Tokyo and it was excellent. As for the speeds, I recieved about 400 kbps sustained.

Keep in mind that these speeds are with the 2 million people that live in Tokyo and live on their cell phones.

The actual speeds we're gonna see in the states is probably gonna be close to this once it gets completely deployed and people buy into it. Yeah, we hear Ev-DO version whatever can do 2 mbps sustained and UMTS can do 500 kbps sustained and whatever, but keep in mind that these are either lab speeds or low usuage speeds. Wait till the switches get full with users... thats gonna be the true test. Anybody who has cable internet will attest to what I'm sayin.
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BeachSlapped

Feb 11, 2005, 6:21 PM
muchdrama said:
I don't know about 3.5 mbps, but I wouldn't say that EV DO blows the doors off UMTS. We haven't seen what UMTS can do, and I won't pass judgement until I've seen it up and running in more areas.

When do you think we'll see UMTS? late 2005, maybe?
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bigdaddyjay

Feb 11, 2005, 7:43 PM
Verizon will never see it. Cingular has UMTS in around 7 cities from ATT merger. Cingular is banking on HSDPA which is an upgrade from UMTS/WCDMA. Engineers claim HSDPA will reach 14mps but so far the fastest I have heard is around 3-3.5mps. The earliest Cingular would commercially launch HSDPA is rumored to be in 2006 for public use. As stated I have pulled 3.5mps on EV DO with compression software in Chicago. Currently I am traveling through St. Louis and there is no EV DO in the ghetto ☹️
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PhoenixAshes

Feb 12, 2005, 7:31 PM
bigdaddyjay said:
Verizon will never see it. Cingular has UMTS in around 7 cities from ATT merger. Cingular is banking on HSDPA which is an upgrade from UMTS/WCDMA. Engineers claim HSDPA will reach 14mps but so far the fastest I have heard is around 3-3.5mps. The earliest Cingular would commercially launch HSDPA is rumored to be in 2006 for public use. As stated I have pulled 3.5mps on EV DO with compression software in Chicago. Currently I am traveling through St. Louis and there is no EV DO in the ghetto ☹️


The 3-3.5m from Cingular's hsdpa isn't the "fastest", it's the average sustained speed attained during the trial.
Also, both Cingular and Lucent stated that the reason that it wasn't faster was...
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muchdrama

Feb 12, 2005, 3:54 PM
BeachSlapped said:
muchdrama said:
I don't know about 3.5 mbps, but I wouldn't say that EV DO blows the doors off UMTS. We haven't seen what UMTS can do, and I won't pass judgement until I've seen it up and running in more areas.

When do you think we'll see UMTS? late 2005, maybe?
You'll see it's service area expand over 2005.
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