RichardM said:
I think most of us here are pretty glad we've stuck with Verizon!

Unless you're not happy with your phone "capabilities", or should I say incapabilities... ☹️

😳 😳

I don't know bout the other blokes in here, but I chat on my phone.

BeachSlapped said:

RichardM said:
I think most of us here are pretty glad we've stuck with Verizon!

Unless you're not happy with your phone "capabilities", or should I say incapabilities... ☹️

I completely agree with BitchSlapped.

Sorry! BeachSlapped...

Anxiovert said:
Sorry! BeachSlapped...

Oh ok!

I really like the VZW capabilities that a lot of other carriers don't have, like reliability, great clarity and service wherever I go. I'll take that over a Razr phone that doesn't get good (or any) service in certain locations.
Verizon's best at what cellphones are meant to do, plus a lot more.

I suppose..if you live in a tunnel Verizon is worth the extra cost and reduced features

You are to funny 🤣 Someone praises a company that spends the money making sure that customers get service in a tunnel and you find a way to rip on it! The whole point is that Cingular obviously doesn't have more bars in more places and hasn't raised the bar. I hear that Cingular plans have gone up as well, hmmm kinda seems like they are getting worried about paying off that 41 Billion 🤣

HOw many people nationally care whether that have phone service in a tunnel or in the woods of Qregon? I dont think that is a great selling point to pay more for less....

I do hear though people are leaving the great VErizon because of little ole BT though. Now that seems to be more important then tunnel service.

Even in NYC Cingular is better regardless of the tunnel issues lol

Where are you getting your data on NYC?? I have used Verizon across this country and have had pretty much anyone agree that they are better than the rest. Hey, the Cingular forum is looking for their Forum Idiot so it's time to go home, haha

YOu can do all the insulting and name calling you want. The fact is Verizon has formadable competition and the teeth knashing is evidant on this board and im sure in the boardroom as well, son.

Son??? I am likely older than you and it seems I'm more educated. The funny thing is that you Cingular people are always in this forum dogging VZW but we aren't over there doing the same. Do I detect some envy for Verizon Wireless by Cingular users????

Envy no! I'm just enjoying the reading of excuses and rhetoric from arrogant employees who predicted Cingular's demise due to the purchase of ATT...The MASSIVE exit to Verizon as was so vehemently expected. After all Verizon has JD Powers and Consumer Reports. LOL And this is just the beginning.

Its enjoyable to read the name calling and chest pounding of arrogance making a thinly veiled attempt to defend the indefensible.

No no no no no Doctor Older......Its not about envy at all.

bigdaddyjay said:
Where are you getting your data on NYC?? I have used Verizon across this country and have had pretty much anyone agree that they are better than the rest. Hey, the Cingular forum is looking for their Forum Idiot so it's time to go home, haha

He's probably getting the data from the fact that Verizon is spending 900 million in network improvements in the NYC area. Not to mention the fact that studies(not surveys) are showing Verizon is losing to no less than 2 carriers in NYC in the coverage reliabilty department.

PhoenixAshes said:

bigdaddyjay said:
Where are you getting your data on NYC?? I have used Verizon across this country and have had pretty much anyone agree that they are better than the rest. Hey, the Cingular forum is looking for their Forum Idiot so it's time to go home, haha

He's probably getting the data from the fact that Verizon is spending 900 million in network improvements in the NYC area. Not to mention the fact that studies(not surveys) are showing Verizon is losing to no less than 2 carriers in NYC in the coverage reliabilty department.

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and your data is from where?

vzwcsrep said:

PhoenixAshes said:

bigdaddyjay said:
Where are you getting your data on NYC?? I have used Verizon across this country and have had pretty much anyone agree that they are better than the rest. Hey, the Cingular forum is looking for their Forum Idiot so it's time to go home, haha

He's probably getting the data from the fact that Verizon is spending 900 million in network improvements in the NYC area. Not to mention the fact that studies(not surveys) are showing Verizon is losing to no less than 2 carriers in NYC in the coverage reliabilty department.

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and your data is from where?

ummm... the verizon data is avail...
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PhoenixAshes said:
You can probably find the newspaper articles about the studies if you look hard enough.
Verizon announced the 900 million right after Cingular was named the best carrier in NYC by 20/20. Apparently they took nokias from all the major carriers in NYC and Cingular came out on top.

Considering VZW has only one Nokia phone, no wonder! Does Nokia have something against VZW? how come they only phone VZW has is ugly and outdated?

Anxiovert said:

PhoenixAshes said:
You can probably find the newspaper articles about the studies if you look hard enough.
Verizon announced the 900 million right after Cingular was named the best carrier in NYC by 20/20. Apparently they took nokias from all the major carriers in NYC and Cingular came out on top.

Considering VZW has only one Nokia phone, no wonder! Does Nokia have something against VZW? how come they only phone VZW has is ugly and outdated?

The test was last year, so the Nokia phone wasn't outdated then.
The reason they chose Nokia was because all of the major carriers they tested offered one and because Nokia is generally the most reliable phone.

Isn't Nokia Swedish for CRAP?????

bigdaddyjay said:
Isn't Nokia Swedish for CRAP?????

Now there is a painfully obvious..I open my mouth to change feet statement.....LOL

Disclaimer:

The Cingular Forum claims no liability for the idiotic misinformation/opinions KingFrog77 spews on this site.






Come on now. PLEASE don't associate him with us normal people. 😳

For your information the piece of Oregon I am speaking of is a desert. And actually 3.5 million Oregonians care. No it is not NYC, but very few places are.
US97, US20, US26, US395 and US95 are major over the road truck corridors to other places. Seems like there should be massive GSM coverage there, but there isn't. Cingular lists GSM coverage in Eastern and Central Oregon, which presumably is from RCC. The only problem is that RCC probably won't turn their GSM network on for several months. They have been having some issues with their GSM upgrade.
In my store we get Cingular customers from California and the Willamette Valley who can't use their phone because outside of town there is no network.
Cingular jumped the gun in publishing c...
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Actually, I'm in the Willamette Valley also, and I'm doing more new activations for Cingular than Verizon, even though I'm not a big fan. I'm actually selling more T-Mobile than either of them, though. Where exactly in Oregon are you?

SPCSVZWJeff said:
For your information the piece of Oregon I am speaking of is a desert. And actually 3.5 million Oregonians care. No it is not NYC, but very few places are.
US97, US20, US26, US395 and US95 are major over the road truck corridors to other places. Seems like there should be massive GSM coverage there, but there isn't. Cingular lists GSM coverage in Eastern and Central Oregon, which presumably is from RCC. The only problem is that RCC probably won't turn their GSM network on for several months. They have been having some issues with their GSM upgrade.
In my store we get Cingular customers from California and the Willamette Valley who can't use their phone because outside of town there is no network.
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Dang Phoenix, you use according a lot. You make up a lot of stuff to. I say everyone in this forum that likes Verizon should go to the Cingular forum and start trash talking but then again that would be easy. 🤣

bigdaddyjay said:
Dang Phoenix, you use according a lot.

Not original at all... I pointed out that you say "obvious" more than anyone on the planet, and you come back and say I use "according" alot. 🙄
If you want me to, I will make a list of the next 6 or 7 witty things I will say, and you can just go ahead find a way to make them sound dumb, ok?

I say everyone in this forum that likes Verizon should go to the Cingular forum and start trash talking but then again that would be easy.

If you go to the Cingular forum, you will not see too much carrier trashing. You come to the Verizon forum and "people who like Verizon" are in here having 'We hate Cingular' orgies and throwi...
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PhoenixAshes said:

bigdaddyjay said:
Dang Phoenix, you use according a lot.

Not original at all... I pointed out that you say "obvious" more than anyone on the planet, and you come back and say I use "according" alot. 🙄
If you want me to, I will make a list of the next 6 or 7 witty things I will say, and you can just go ahead find a way to make them sound dumb, ok?

I say everyone in this forum that likes Verizon should go to the Cingular forum and start trash talking but then again that would be easy.

If you go to the Cingular forum, you will not see too much carrier trashing. You come to the Verizon forum and "people who like Verizon" are in here havi

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muchdrama said:

PhoenixAshes said:

bigdaddyjay said:
Dang Phoenix, you use according a lot.

Not original at all... I pointed out that you say "obvious" more than anyone on the planet, and you come back and say I use "according" alot. 🙄
If you want me to, I will make a list of the next 6 or 7 witty things I will say, and you can just go ahead find a way to make them sound dumb, ok?

I say everyone in this forum that likes Verizon should go to the Cingular forum and start trash talking but then again that would be easy.

If you go to the Cingular forum, you will not see too much carrier trashing. You come to the Verizon forum and "peopl

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PhoenixAshes said:

muchdrama said:

PhoenixAshes said:

bigdaddyjay said:
Dang Phoenix, you use according a lot.

Not original at all... I pointed out that you say "obvious" more than anyone on the planet, and you come back and say I use "according" alot. 🙄
If you want me to, I will make a list of the next 6 or 7 witty things I will say, and you can just go ahead find a way to make them sound dumb, ok?

I say everyone in this forum that likes Verizon should go to the Cingular forum and start trash talking but then again that would be easy.

If you go to the Cingular forum, you will not see too much carrier trashing. Y

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muchdrama said:
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Yeah and I'm the Cingular postman. I deliver everyone's bills and have coverage everywhere. 😛

I guess you'd have to have Santa's powers to pull off that stunt. I kind of like the idea of standing in the foyer of some office building and bouncing the unrulies.

Good Ol' Saint Phoenix and his bodyguard muchdrama. Delivering mail and arse whoopings non-stop all year round.... you know, for the kids.

PhoenixAshes said:

muchdrama said:
🤣
Yeah and I'm the Cingular postman. I deliver everyone's bills and have coverage everywhere. 😛

I guess you'd have to have Santa's powers to pull off that stunt. I kind of like the idea of standing in the foyer of some office building and bouncing the unrulies.

Good Ol' Saint Phoenix and his bodyguard muchdrama. Delivering mail and arse whoopings non-stop all year round.... you know, for the kids.Isn't it funny how you can get away with most anything if you mention it's "for the kids"?

I would definately rather have service in a tunnel than I would be able to transfer my pictures free through BT.

We are forgetting the point here. PHONES ARE FOR MAKING AND RECEIVING CALLS!!!!

Well it seems you are in the minority when it comes to complete BT implimentation.

Its the principle people are concerned with of Verizon forcing people who do want to transfer files to pay for that.

SForsyth01 said:
I would definately rather have service in a tunnel than I would be able to transfer my pictures free through BT.

We are forgetting the point here. PHONES ARE FOR MAKING AND RECEIVING CALLS!!!!

According to EVERY carrier, data is the future of wireless.
Your point is a valid one, however, for every tunnel Verizon covers, Cingular has another tunnel or area that Verizon doesn't.
2 years ago, Verizon could say that they had the best coverage, but not anymore.

Tell this to all the people in rural areas that were promised that they would have service from cingular there, just to get to their home and not have service.

VZW still has the best network nationwide. Cingular is catching up, but they still don't have the same reliability that VZW has.

I love where cingular is going, but they have not gotten to the final destination yet. They have the most customers, now they just need the same reliability in their network.

I am not here to have a pissing contest between VZW and Cingy, as I am tired of those. I love the competition. It keeps my bill cheap.

Why do you pay more for Cing when T-Mo is cheaper? Pay more, get less.

bigdaddyjay said:
You are to funny 🤣 Someone praises a company that spends the money making sure that customers get service in a tunnel and you find a way to rip on it! The whole point is that Cingular obviously doesn't have more bars in more places and hasn't raised the bar. I hear that Cingular plans have gone up as well, hmmm kinda seems like they are getting worried about paying off that 41 Billion 🤣

Obviously, you use the word obviously way too much. Obviously, it's one of the few words you can start a sentence with. If your proclamations are so obvious, then, obviously we wouldn't be having this discussion.
Obviously you don't know what you are talking about again, Mr Mortgage.
Cingul...
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Thanks for the English lesson, why don't you help Kingfrog since he is more needy. You are clueless, the point of the above statement was that Cingular didn't have service in the tunnel hence the question of more bars in more places. Cingular may have more towers at this point but are they able to cross operate the two networks together?? In other words can the 850 network hand off to the 1900 without dropping the call??? Do the customers need to go and get some stupid 64k simcard or whatever to use both networks??? At least with Verizon I can use my nearly three year old Motorola phone and not worry about getting GSM here or TDMA there or getting pissed off that my GSM phone doesn't work in rural areas since it has no analog capabilitie...
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I carry both vzw and cingular phones. I dont travel extensively--so I cant speak to coverage much outside of the DC area.

However, I can say that from a coverage perspective there's not that much of a difference between the 2. BOTH have deadspots or areas where coverage is poor. However, when it comes to service, phones w/features, and cost Cingular definitely wins.

RichardM said:
I really like the VZW capabilities that a lot of other carriers don't have, like reliability, great clarity and service wherever I go. I'll take that over a Razr phone that doesn't get good (or any) service in certain locations.
Verizon's best at what cellphones are meant to do, plus a lot more.

The Razr(or any other Cingular phone) will work in just as many areas as a digital Verizon phone.
If you want reliability, go with a Nokia GSM phone. There isn't anything more reliable.
Clarity? According to drive tests in 49 cities AND internationally by independant testers, Cingular's GSM has the best voice quality around.

Who is paying the independent testers and where can we see these results?? I have a Digital Verizon phone that works in areas where my friends Cingular GSM phone doesn't. What is going on here? Does Cingular even offer a GSM/TDMA/Analog phone that will work in all areas of the Cingular network???? At least with Verizon we don't need to worry about getting a call with our tri mode phones while the Cingular GSM phones are searching for a signal in rural areas.

bigdaddyjay said:
Who is paying the independent testers and where can we see these results?? I have a Digital Verizon phone that works in areas where my friends Cingular GSM phone doesn't. What is going on here? Does Cingular even offer a GSM/TDMA/Analog phone that will work in all areas of the Cingular network???? At least with Verizon we don't need to worry about getting a call with our tri mode phones while the Cingular GSM phones are searching for a signal in rural areas.

You must be speaking of areas so rural that people with teeth don't live there.
And guess what? I can make calls with my Cingular phone that people with Verizon can't make in the same area. It works both ways.
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2% of Cingular's customer base would be 1 million people, hmmmm that is a lot moron. What Gait phones are you speaking of?? Can you name models?? I don't recall hearing of a Gait phone currently being offered that will work on GSM/TDMA/AMPS. I was in Arkansas this past weekend and actually placed a few calls on the extended network in analog so hmmm I must have paid a whole lot more for nothing??? Get a clue Phoenix, you are nothing more than a college punk working at a Cingular store selling phones and talking crap that you can't back up regarding VZW service.

bigdaddyjay said:
2% of Cingular's customer base would be 1 million people, hmmmm that is a lot moron. What Gait phones are you speaking of?? Can you name models?? I don't recall hearing of a gait phone currently being offered that will work on GSM/TDMA/AMPS. I was in Arkansas this past weekend and actually placed a few calls on the extended network in analog so hmmm I must have paid a whole lot more for nothing??? Get a clue Phoenix, you are nothing more than a college punk working at a Cingular store selling phones and talking crap that you can't back up regarding VZW service.

Nokia 6340i Sony Ericsson t62u.

Get a clue?
Coming from a guy who pretends to be a mortage broker that just happens ...
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I completely agree with BitchSlapped.

Hey! 👿