the storm is looking awesome. the phone is having problems connecting with the network though. verizon needs to take care of things on their end. the phone overall is alot faster than any of these videos show. blackberry did a great job. most likely it will be released even if the network problem is not resolved but im sure it will. def before thanksgiving it will be here def the 24 its looking. but they are wondering about black friday for the chance at a huge sales day. we will have to see about the date. price however i really looking around 199 from what i have heard