I have decided to stay with Verizon Wireless. Although I decided I want a smartphone without a smartphone data pkg. I have connect plan and want to use the smartphone with that plan. I know there are only a few that dont require a smart data plan. Do you guys reccomend palm centro, HTC XV6900, or another 1 that interested me im not sure if this one is inc but its the Verizon Wireless SMT 5800. Thanks for the input everyone.
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I do like the Palm Centro.
I have heard the battery is horrible on the XV9600.
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the XV6900 like OP said, right?
Just making sure as I plan on getting the VX9600 soon...
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Yes, the Verizon Wireless XV9600.
Its a great phone. I have just heard the battery is horrible, but I would ask the reps at the store and see what they say.
The Samsung SCH-i760 is also a good phone with WiFi and doesn't reqire a data pack, but make sure you shut the phone off from the Data Network when you access WiFi because you will be charged data.
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I am on a data plan the connect plan i just didnt want the smartphone data plan. i just want to get the best poss choice.
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Be careful with pay as you go data. Without the data plan, if you plan on using the phone even minimally, it will end up saving you to get the data. I only do pictures and at that, not often, so it's not worth the $30 for me. But if you're going to be pay-as-you-go, check your usage to avoid surprises.
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He has to mean the V6900 as there is no XV9600. The VX9600 has yet to be released.
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The HTC XV6900 is the white touchscreen. I own it and the battery is indeed pathetic. It's a good thing I only use mine to tether.
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I bought the Palm Centro because I wanted calendar/scheduling functionality and the ability to get on the internet if I need to without being forced into a data plan. So far I love it. The keys are very tiny but the size of the phone is one of the big pluses for me. I don't want a phone that looks like a calculator at my ear. Amazingly, the keypad is accurate even though it seems like it shouldn't be. All of the features are great (I made my web button for messaging instead), the call quality is great, and Palm OS is old but it is just a pleasure to use. Threaded text messaging is another plus for me. Between the choices that don't require data, the reliability of the Palm just made my decision very easy. Hope that helps.
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yes that helped a lot what i was trying to say before was that i have a data pkg but i just dont want to pay for the smartphone data a verizon rep said that was fine for the centro
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epik
Feb 25, 2009, 11:09 AM
What you're not getting from other the other replies is that once you go on a smartphone you're losing your Connect plan data. The PDA/smartphones are not compatible with the Connect plan data, which is really mobile web. Only standard, Verizon-brand user interface devices can use the Connect data plan.
Once you buy a smartphone, you'll drop the $10 for the Connect plan and either go on the $29.99/mo data plan or pay-per-use data at $0.015/kb (which is $15.36/mb for comparison). You could easily surpass $29.99 with only a couple web sites on pay-per-use data charges.
You WILL lose Connect data.
Also, someone in this thread said they heard the battery life on the LG 9600 was bad - how on earth would anyone know this, seeing as how...
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You can't use the Connect Plan for a smartphone. The Connect Plan is data for a dumbphone.
Are you just looking for a phone with a web browser? There are dumbphones that can do what you need if that's the case.
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epik
Feb 25, 2009, 11:10 AM
Thank you, my words exactly (I was apparently posting the same thing at the same time).
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I'm in the same boat, but while comparing the three phones that don't require the data plan none of them show the connects plan as being available. Does this mean you have to go by usage, the Vcast package, or the smart phone data package? Thank you.
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Connect is not for a smartphone. It only works with the dumbphones. A smartphone requires a data plan unless the phone was released before 11/08, in which case you have 3 options: a data plan, pay-as-you-go-data, or block data.
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I know in our store, if you get a smartphone, it doesn't leave the store without that data package. For the most part it's because you may not intend to use the internet but when you do and your bill is $1000 or more, we don't want that screaming tirade that we didn't inform correctly. We find that it will save the customer A LOT of money in the long run. But that's OUR policy.
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So why exactly does it cost "thousands" of dollars to be on the internet and send pics, etc. if it can be had for a mere $30/month unlimited with a plan?
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epik
Feb 28, 2009, 12:52 AM
I can give you my five years experience with that one.
The "pay per kb" rate is $0.015/kb. Or, as I used to call it, the arm and a leg rate.
$0.015/kb x 1mb (AKA 1024kb) = $15.36/mb.
I currently carry two PDA phones. On my Blackberry Curve I use about 100mb/mo. On my company-provided Touch Pro, I use about 20mb/mo, and I RARELY use the phone for anything, let alone data. Most of the usage has been a mix of occasional web browsing, and a lot of customer demonstration.
If I do 20mb of pay-per-kb browsing, I've racked up $307.20 in data charges. If I do 100mb of pay-per-kb browsing, I just got a bill for an extra $1536.
The largest customer goof bill I ever saw was in 2006, and that was for over $3000. That's in addition ...
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Thank you. Exactly my point 🙂 We still see it in my store and other stores in our company. We live in a poor service area and sometimes data is the only way to communicate (email and text). V-Cast is a must on voyagers, dares, and kraves, atleast for the free trial and then since they have been informed, it is their choice. We want the customers happy and informed! 😁
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Thanks. I appreciate the straightforward answer without attitude which a lot of people give on this site. I'm not in the business, so I do ask questions for honest answers. The only reason I have pay-as-you-go on my Centro is bc I can't even send a photo without data unblocked. And someone on this site once made a nasty comment about how Verizon should just do whatever "I want" because after all, I'm just a demanding, obnoxious customer. But isn't the whole purpose of marketing trying to find out what your customers WANT and then meeting their needs with your product or service so you can run a profitable business? I mean, some of these posters just make me nuts. I'm glad you've been in the fight since 2004. You sound like one of the few wit...
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epik
Mar 1, 2009, 12:22 AM
Thanks!
You have to remember, most of us here are employees of Verizon or partner companies. Well, at least the regulars seem to be. There are some who are not. In any case, the employee-types tend to use this site as a forum for complaining (in some form or another) about situations at work. I've been there, too.
I HAVE noticed that what customers perceive as profitable is most often different from what carriers view as profitable. Add-a-lines are a loss; primary lines are a money maker. Blackberry users are more profitable than text-crazy teens (they were the profit-makers from 2005 to 2006). Technogeeks with every feature active (and paying for it) are the creme of the crop. Keep in mind, by some estimates, the majority of w...
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I tend to recommend blocking data entirely if you're traveling and don't have a data package. Data billing on PDA's can be a bit unpredictable. For instance, if you happen to receive a PIX/FLIX message on a PDA while in extended area, you'll get billed for the kilobyte usage.
I'm kinda glad that data packages are required on newer smartphones. As has been mentioned before, they definitely help to avoid obscene amounts of overage charges. Plus, they help you to get the most out of your phone.
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I do agree with you. But the things I chose my Centro for - a decent, clear phone, threaded text messaging, more message/photo memory, and mainly a calendar for scheduling and keeping me sane - are not to be found on the dumpphones. I don't need the internet and I don't even understand "syncing" to know if I can do it without being charged(haha). But it's nice knowing that if I want the data package, I can add it, and if it became unaffordable or just not used, I could remove it. What if someone lost a job or something? They literally have to switch out to another phone if they have a Saga or a BB or the Omnia. I do see both sides of this, I truly do (as a customer), but I still think if you had to, you should be able to block the data and k...
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