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Phones that accept certain software

weiser701

Apr 28, 2009, 11:43 AM
Disregarding smart phones, which phones can process Bible reading software (Please no religious comments or debates. I just think I should be specific with the software in case it's needed for answering)? So far I only have the Dare as a suitable option, and that's what the online Verizon rep told me.

Any other options? Anything coming out in the very near future with the same capabilities? I'm staying away from smart phones because I don't want to pay for the required data plan. I don't even text message (just accept them from someone once in a while). I basically just require the processor and large enough screen. Thanks!
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uscingulair

Apr 28, 2009, 12:23 PM
yea the John 3:16 is comming out next month. Not only does it read it for you it crams it down your throat and when it is in your pocket it feels you up.
sorry could not resist
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Menno

Apr 28, 2009, 12:56 PM
Dude, lighten up. The OP asked a simple question.

And you're "shoving your opinion" down their throat, which by your post, you seem to dislike it when people do this to you. Try thinking a little before you respond next time.
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weiser701

Apr 28, 2009, 2:22 PM
Please, let's not make an issue of the type of software I'm interested in. That's really not the focus here. It can be ANY software that operates like that one. I'm just curious about the capabilities of non-smartphones in operating this type of software. Basically, a phone that doesn't require a data plan and hopefully one that isn't $200+ (with 2-year activation/extension).

I'm surprised the Dare is my only option at this point, considering it's nearly 1 year old. I find it odd that we don't have a larger selection of phones in that category compared to GSM being that Japan and South Korea operate on the CDMA network and they're obsessed with cell phones. One would think with that type of market we would see the affect here in the US. ...
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Menno

Apr 28, 2009, 3:14 PM
Their phones arn't cleared for the US. Remember that phones have to be cleared by the FCC, and picked up by a carrier.

Most dumb phones aren't built to accept a lot of third party software because they are built to be basic phones with maybe a few features here and there.

Once you get into Bible/Medical readers and the like, you are looking into phones running their own operating systems. I don't know if it is BREW (what most verizon phones run on) or the developers themselves who don't make software compatible with Brew. I'm surprised that the Dare would offer this ability (to my understanding it is just another Brew phone) Make sure you check your software's compatibility before you get the phone.
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weiser701

Apr 28, 2009, 3:36 PM
I understand what you're saying. So I guess I'm fortunate to even have the LG Dare as my one option outside of smartphones. Still seems weird that it remains the only option after nearly a year. Although it seems like the Versa would also work since it appears to be essentially an upgrade to the Dare based on what I read. And it's certainly important to check the requirements of each software because I have noticed they do differ (i.e. java based or something else). I feel like I'll go into a verizon corporate store and get an answer contradicting to what I just got from the online rep. haha. No offense to you verizon reps. I get a different answer from just about every Directv rep I speak to.
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Menno

Apr 28, 2009, 3:45 PM
The dare runs off of Brew, which is the same basic software that every verizon phone runs off of. The dare has a full HTML browser, so maybe that's what he's talking about (if the application has a mobile website)

But if you can't download your application to an Env2 or a Razr, chances are it won't run on the dare.
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weiser701

Apr 28, 2009, 10:06 PM
You're absolutely correct. I was skeptical so I got in contact with another rep (similar to when I had to keep contacting more Directv reps to get the right answers). Only the smartphones will accept the software. HOWEVER, I was told only the Centro would be suitable. They failed to also suggest the SMT5800, XV6900 (Touch), or i760, which are all still being offered online.

I think I'll go with the XV6900 because it's $70 and won't require the data plan. No wireless but that doesn't bother me right now - I'm in Montana! I don't NEED it, anyway.

Thanks for your help!
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epik

Apr 28, 2009, 11:29 PM
Montana is one of the fastest growing data-centric areas in Verizon. Stores there sell data features many times more than they do in metropolitan areas. Don't sell yourself so short!

A word of advice on any device that doesn't require the Internet feature. If you don't send or receive pictures, block the data. Otherwise, you'll be on a pay-per-kb rate that equates to about $15 a megabyte (most web sites would run you anywhere from $1 to $40 in one hit). I know you're not going to use the data, but if you accidentally get online or send/receive a picture, there's a strong possibility that your phone will ping the network to check for the Internet on a regular basis. I see it all the time.

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weiser701

Apr 29, 2009, 12:27 AM
Yeah, I've been reading that around these forms doing my searches. I really appreciate the warning! 😁

Actually, the only time I've used my current phone for messaging is when I've sent ringtones to my phone from phonezoo via pix message. Turning off data turns off the ability to receive messages? And I won't be charged the same $0.25 with the XV6900? I'll be charged per kb? Wow, that would be costly.

And I certainly didn't know that about Montana. I didn't realize my Blackberry obsessed neighbors were good representations of data usage in MT. haha. Of course, I didn't think wifi and data usage necessarily correlated all that much. I just meant wifi isn't a huge deal for me since it's so rural here and figured the wifi network would ...
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epik

Apr 29, 2009, 9:25 AM
I think that areas like Montana (and Wyoming, Nebraska, the Dakotas, Idaho, etc) all do well in data for two reasons: first, it's still "new" in more of those areas. Metro areas went through the text package craze 4 years ago, but in more rural areas it's still a newer aspect of wireless. Second, Verizon has made initiatives to expand high speed date coverage into these areas. There was a time when we joked that you could do broadband speeds anywhere but Montana, and it was because Montana (among others) was far behind the technology transitions. Now, it's almost as easy as flipping a switch to change technology in some of these areas. They used to justify holding back on switches due to the volume of customers - now Verizon realizes th...
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weiser701

Apr 29, 2009, 6:00 PM
Thank you very much for all the info and advice!

I never thought about the flexibility in setting ringtones being that it's Windows. I know that's something many have been annoyed by. You don't make the software decisions for verizon phones so I'm sure you MUST agree it's rather irritating we are limited in how and what we can set as ringtones. $1.99 is ridiculous as an only option. Although I'm not active in messing with ringtones. I just wanted something different is all.

I'm sure I'll only be using a FRACTION of the features a smartphone offers, but I do need the ability to operate one particular software.
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Radbard

May 1, 2009, 11:28 AM
I work for an indirect in northern Wyoming and I sell a ton of data. BB storms, Omnias, text, vcast, etc. I love when people come in and ask about att here. The only place in the whole state that gets att 3g is jackson hole. Nearly the whole state gets evdo rev a from verizon though.
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