KnifeySpooney,
He does this intentionally. It has been established within the recent weeks that he has absolutely no credibility when it comes to any knowledge of the Cingular/ATT company at all.

It has also been established that he is quite possibly the stupidest individual that most of us have ever encountered. However, this excites him. He enjoys trolling and starting flame wars. Just another version of kingfrog.

SForsyth01 said:
KnifeySpooney,
He does this intentionally. It has been established within the recent weeks that he has absolutely no credibility when it comes to any knowledge of the Cingular/ATT company at all.

It has also been established that he is quite possibly the stupidest individual that most of us have ever encountered. However, this excites him. He enjoys trolling and starting flame wars. Just another version of kingfrog.

S, I just wanted to warn you that Nextel18 likes to report any post that puts him on the spot for his inaccurate posts to the moderator. If you're going to prove him wrong, or show him to be inaccurate...do it without calling him names. I'd hate to see a smart individual li...
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if it violates any of the TOS guidelines of course I am going to report it.

nextel18 said:
if it violates any of the TOS guidelines of course I am going to report it.

You're only reporting it because you can't handle us and you're sick of getting proven wrong at every turn.

no, not at all. I am reporting it because it is against TOS guidelines. as long as it keeps continuing i will keep reporting.

nextel18 said:
no, not at all. I am reporting it because it is against TOS guidelines. as long as it keeps continuing i will keep reporting.

Go ahead and keep reporting anything you like. Rich instructed to keep the name calling out of it, and that's what I'm doing. I'll find other ways to discredit you through my superior intellect.

he instructed that you keep name calling out of it, and yet a while ago you started up again. as long as you dont defame my character or slander my name then its ok. if you want to have a battle with your "super intellect" i am all about it.

nextel18 said:
he instructed that you keep name calling out of it, and yet a while ago you started up again. as long as you dont defame my character or slander my name then its ok. if you want to have a battle with your "super intellect" i am all about it.

You can't keep up. And I haven't called you one name since I was instructed not to. I simply took the high road and went about it a different way. By the way...you slander and defame yourself really easily.

what a stupid remark: " By the way...you slander and defame yourself really easily."

nextel18 said:
what a stupid remark: " By the way...you slander and defame yourself really easily."

Well, you do...why do you think everybody calls you on it?

becuase they are immature.

nextel18 said:
becuase they are immature.

Right. They're immature and you're the one banned from two websites.

what's the correlation between I been banned from ONLY ONE actually and them being immature?

nextel18 said:
what's the correlation between I been banned from ONLY ONE actually and them being immature?

The correlation is this: Calling people on this site immature while you've been banned from two websites for the same thing is hypocritical.

by the way, i wasnt banned from those two sites. i can alwways go on by using different handles. its very easy.

it is not hypocritical. if i am banned, that doesnt mean i am immature. so there is no correlation.

nextel18 said:
by the way, i wasnt banned from those two sites. i can alwways go on by using different handles. its very easy.

it is not hypocritical. if i am banned, that doesnt mean i am immature. so there is no correlation.

If you got banned from those sites chances are you're immature. And if you had to log on using different handles, that means your first handles were banned. You told me yourself a long time ago you were banned for "posting accurate information". That's a quote...you can find that one in the Nextel forum as well.

being banned from a site shows your immaturity? hahah. i can understand if i did things that were wrong, instead of yes giving accurate information then i would agree. i always gave accurate information as well as asking questions. on there, i was never immature like you are on here, by calling people names, me, and things like that. on there, i didnt do that. so for you calling me names that is showing your immaturity.

i didnt.

nextel18 said:
being banned from a site shows your immaturity? hahah. i can understand if i did things that were wrong, instead of yes giving accurate information then i would agree. i always gave accurate information as well as asking questions. on there, i was never immature like you are on here, by calling people names, me, and things like that. on there, i didnt do that. so for you calling me names that is showing your immaturity.

i didnt.

C'mon Nextel. Give us all a break. People don't get banned from TWO websites by posting accurate information. By the way...I haven't called you any names.

of course. they could have becuase they didnt like me or anything like that. i wasnt banned from ideninsider or whatever that other one was called.

you havnt called me any names? as i would say to you "look it up". you also have defamed my character and slandered me. you even admited it was easy to do so and that you like doing it. "look it up" lol

nextel18 said:
of course. they could have becuase they didnt like me or anything like that. i wasnt banned from ideninsider or whatever that other one was called.

you havnt called me any names? as i would say to you "look it up". you also have defamed my character and slandered me. you even admited it was easy to do so and that you like doing it. "look it up" lol

I said I hadn't called you any names since Rich asked me not to. Since early this morning. I promised him I wouldn't do it any more. I know the moderator of ideninsider.com. When I asked him why you were banned he said it was for "causing trouble and posting erroneous information".

sure you did.

Yes, he has informed me of this. I will simply have to prove him wrong in a more civil manner, instead of attempting to bash it into his head.

Flame wars aren't my kinda thing anyway. I would much rather have a civil educated discussion. That just becomes hard sometimes when someone is continually attacking your character like he sometimes attacks mine.

SForsyth01 said:
Yes, he has informed me of this. I will simply have to prove him wrong in a more civil manner, instead of attempting to bash it into his head.

Flame wars aren't my kinda thing anyway. I would much rather have a civil educated discussion. That just becomes hard sometimes when someone is continually attacking your character like he sometimes attacks mine.

Don't worry about him attacking your character...he doesn't have the ammo. You and I are two of the most intelligent people on this site, hands down. Don't be afraid to think highly of yourself...you've proven yourself to be knowledgeable and forthright on numerous ocassions. Everybody on this site sees him for what he is...the guy that g...
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I definately attempt to portray my intelligence on this site and help people with any questions they may have (that I know the answer to). It just gets very hard to portray that intelligence when someone is constantly attacking my character. And it is VERY hard to maintain one's cool in that situation.

SForsyth01 said:
I definately attempt to portray my intelligence on this site and help people with any questions they may have (that I know the answer to). It just gets very hard to portray that intelligence when someone is constantly attacking my character. And it is VERY hard to maintain one's cool in that situation.

You've got a cool intellect. Use it. Understand that he isn't capable of attacking your character because you are beyond reproach.

It is simple. I will no longer give him the pleasure of participating in a flame war. I will simply state the truth and leave it at that.


I just sent you a PM.

SForsyth01 said:
It is simple. I will no longer give him the pleasure of participating in a flame war. I will simply state the truth and leave it at that.


I just sent you a PM.

A'ight.

attacking your character? hahahha yea right. so far you have been attacking mine.

Considering the crap you post, you set yourself for being corrected... we can't help it you are a banned individual... burn baby burn, and this is coming from someone that posts alot of crap...

and coming from you? who doesnt even contribute to the board instead of just picking fights... very interesting.... by the way, i dont post crap. atleast i post unlike you and some people on here. again, if i make a mistake i fix it in the same message, others cant seem that for some reason.

by the way, post something then i will listen to some of the things you have to say.

2004- total ads

verizon= Record 6.3 million total net customer additions.
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sprint/nextel= (not including boost) 6.6 million total net subs. (including boost) 7.3 million total net subs.
sprint= 4.4 million
nextel= 2.9 million total subscribers. 2.2 million Nextel subscribers and 755,000 Boost Mobile subscribers
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cingular= (i am not sure)
anyone knows please share.

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verizon- 6.3 million subscribers
sprint/nextel= 6.6 million *not including boost* 7.3 million including boost
cingular= i dont know

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is that what you mean?

Yeah thats what I meant. I didn't know that the sprint nextel thing was actually combined right now. As for net customers it does make a difference on what type they are. What I was getting at was a prepaid customer is not promissed revenue for a company. A customer paying 55+ a month on a contract means 55+ a month for 2 years. An emergency user on virgin mobile pays 20 every 90 days. It can make a pretty big difference. Pose a hypothetical to you. If at the end of 04 vzw bought alltel would they really be responsible for how many ads alltel did in 04? The numbers should be kept seperate I think is all.

TommyBoy said:If at the end of 04 vzw bought alltel would they really be responsible for how many ads alltel did in 04? The numbers should be kept seperate I think is all.

Well the funny part about life is, sometimes its not about what you think. And yea I know it may suck but we all get over it as the day goes by. No I am not stepping pn your feet or bashing you just stating the facts. Sometimes I wish the consumers had a say so.

well, nextel/sprint are seperate but i am combining them becuase they are one entity now. not officially becuase shareholders and the doj/ftc have not oked the deal yet. but i was doing it becuase people on here questioned it.

i dont like hypothetical questions. if this then that. i say if its done then thats another thing.

i agree that the numbers should be seperate, but now as they are starting to merge and things like that one should add their subscribers together.

well said.

I don't think the users will experience more coverage though, with Sprint being CDMA and Nextel being iDen. As far as phones that can use both, I think they'll be maybe a few types, as with the TDMA/GSM GAIT phones. AT&T only had the Siemens S46 and the Sony Ericcson T62U. I think Cingular had the Nokia 6340; I'm not sure if they had any more then that.

Anyway, like I said use what works for you and don't worry about the number of subscribers. That's hardly something to argue about. For me. Verizon because of coverage and the In network calling saves money and the phone (Sammy A670) is a pretty decent mid-level phone 🙂

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I don't think the users will experience more coverage though, with Sprint being CDMA and Nextel being iDen.
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hey, buddy, you are wrong about this one. let me explain why.

you are right that sprint is cdma and nextel is iden, however, nextel just got contigious spectrum in the 800 band and in the 1.9ghz and you can "transform" their towers that they have on 800mhz which is all of them to cdma. in fact, they are going to change half of their towers on the cdma network by 2007. if you combine nextel/sprints 45k and growing towers and a lot of spectrum they will have better coverage. dont forget mmds spectrum, that also helps to increase coverage.

hope that helps.. any questions please ask.

nextel18 said:
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I don't think the users will experience more coverage though, with Sprint being CDMA and Nextel being iDen.
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hey, buddy, you are wrong about this one. let me explain why.

you are right that sprint is cdma and nextel is iden, however, nextel just got contigious spectrum in the 800 band and in the 1.9ghz and you can "transform" their towers that they have on 800mhz which is all of them to cdma. in fact, they are going to change half of their towers on the cdma network by 2007. if you combine nextel/sprints 45k and growing towers and a lot of spectrum they will have better coverage. dont forget mmds spectrum, that also helps to increase coverage.

hope that helps.. any questions please ask.

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6th time...

i ment to say contiguous. he is not right. when you combine 45,000 cell sites, a lot of spectrum, including the mmds spectrum WHich helps increase capacity/coverage in those areas of deployment, then coverage/capacity will increase.

so yes, it will help.

nextel18 said:
6th time...

i ment to say contiguous. he is not right. when you combine 45,000 cell sites, a lot of spectrum, including the mmds spectrum WHich helps increase capacity/coverage in those areas of deployment, then coverage/capacity will increase.

so yes, it will help.

THEY'RE NOT USING THE MMDS SPECTRUM! So how does that help, exactly?

they can use the mmds spectrum to help capacity in those areas where 800 and 1.9ghz lacks. or they can continiously build 3k plus for each provider and use co-locations to increase coverage/capacity.

if you have their number of towers, and spectrum, you will have better coverage.

its the same as cingular/att wireless cept they didnt use different networks. when you combine their towers, spectrum it will be a lot better.

when you add nextel/sprint's stuff it will get better especially since you can transform nextel's 800mhz to cdma as well as their towers.

nextel18 said:
they can use the mmds spectrum to help capacity in those areas where 800 and 1.9ghz lacks. or they can continiously build 3k plus for each provider and use co-locations to increase coverage/capacity.

if you have their number of towers, and spectrum, you will have better coverage.

its the same as cingular/att wireless cept they didnt use different networks. when you combine their towers, spectrum it will be a lot better.

when you add nextel/sprint's stuff it will get better especially since you can transform nextel's 800mhz to cdma as well as their towers.

And I'm saying there's no immediate plans to use that MMDS spectrum as it calls for new infrastructure. They have plenty of other...
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that is true. sprint has been trailing wimax over their DO system with their mmds spectrum. i think that will be the next system after DO. *wimax that is*

There is a MAJOR idea that is going over your head here.

Like he said, much of Sprint and Nextel's networks lie on top of each other. I'm not sure if you are aware of this or not, but in hundreds and thousands of locations, carriers actually share towers, even while their technologies may be different. So my question for you is, how many of those supposedly 45,000 towers are being shared, or even if they aren't shared, are in overlapping coverage areas?

i am sure that there are many of those towers that are overlapping. that is why they are doing co-locations, and still building out new towers. if the cingular/att wireless merger is helping coverage nextel/sprint merger will do the same.

I don't doubt that they are doing co-locations and building new towers, but comparing this merger to the Cingular-ATT merger is not eactly right. Much of Cingular and ATT's networks actually complemented each other. That's not the case with Sprint and Nextel.

*exactly

yea, i would say that your opinion is valid. well one can compare the attw/cingular merger to sprint/nextel's. they still have to transform the ownership of towers, cell sites and spectrum, the same way that sprint/nextel has to do. obviously, cingular/att wireless work on the gsm, on one platform, while sprint/nextel work on two seperate ones, however, nextel's 800mhz of contiguous spectrum is very easy to "transform" into cdma.

RUFF1415 said:
There is a MAJOR idea that is going over your head here.

Like he said, much of Sprint and Nextel's networks lie on top of each other. I'm not sure if you are aware of this or not, but in hundreds and thousands of locations, carriers actually share towers, even while their technologies may be different. So my question for you is, how many of those supposedly 45,000 towers are being shared, or even if they aren't shared, are in overlapping coverage areas?

I'm not sure he understands this, RUFF. He thinks MMDS spectrum will blanket the entire country.

its about nationwide sir. they are the best with arpu and their quart subs. ie 7.3 million subs vs verizon's 6.3 million. even if you think nextel/sprint doesnt have a great network they did better combined then verizon did in 2004.

IF verizon would let anyone in the country have a phone for a 125 deposit they would have added probably twice as many people as they did. Probably a quarter of sprints customer base is because their the only company that wants them as a customer. Can't tell you how many customers I turn away with a 400 deposit and they tell me they hate sprint but have no choice. You could file bankruptcy and go get a phone with sprint for under 200 no matter what. Kind of shaky to base your revenue off credit challenged customers. If you break down how many adds were done by each company (sprint and nextel) it really is pretty pathetic..

well, sprint has changed that policy now and it seems to be working. while churn has been decreasing, arpu has been increasing. their core business hasnt been doing quite well but their mvno's and affiliates have been doing very well.

regardless, if you combine their total ads from 2004 and total subscribers all together they did 7.3 million subs and have a total of 42.9. and again, i did the math and it showed that nextel/sprint outgains verizon by 1 million per year and they could surpass verizon in 2 years.


affiliates, and MVNO's are sometimes better then regular core subscribers becuase with core subscribers you have to pay a high CPGA (cost per getting acquirer) or something of that sort while mvno's and affiliates you dont. so...
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nextel18 said:
well, sprint has changed that policy now and it seems to be working. while churn has been decreasing, arpu has been increasing. their core business hasnt been doing quite well but their mvno's and affiliates have been doing very well.

regardless, if you combine their total ads from 2004 and total subscribers all together they did 7.3 million subs and have a total of 42.9. and again, i did the math and it showed that nextel/sprint outgains verizon by 1 million per year and they could surpass verizon in 2 years.


affiliates, and MVNO's are sometimes better then regular core subscribers becuase with core subscribers you have to pay a high CPGA (cost per getting acquirer) or something of that sort while

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no, its about total ads per company. note the subject heading

nextel18 said:
no, its about total ads per company. note the subject heading

🙄

read what i wrote again. merging two companies together will effect potential adds.

you said other factors but i was talking just about their total ads not about any network integration or migration and things like that. it was purely on numbers alone. (with what they got for 2004)