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Once and for all... what I do and why I think VZ will not hold #1

kingfrog77

Mar 31, 2005, 4:43 PM
Funny....you guys do not respond to my reasons for enjoying Verizon's slip. Nor do you respond to the numbers I posted and post again here reflecting my predictions and yes my vested interest in Verizon's losing the number one spot.

So I will repost for those who have a question about my "interest" in this company and what I do.

I am on the INTERNET from 9-4 most days as I trade securities for much of my living. I can do that because I am a professional entertainer who travels extensively and I only work 15 minutes a night in a show. I am on the net in the dressing room as well. Thats why I can post all hours of the day. Incidentally my father owned 15 big rigs and hired drivers so I am familiar with that business and know many there...
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bigdaddyjay

Mar 31, 2005, 5:30 PM
Verizon Communications Reports Strong 4Q and 2004 Results, Driven by Wireless Revenue Growth, Solid Cash Flows and Margins
4Q Revenues Increase 6.2% to Record $18.3 Billion; 2004 Revenues of $71.3 Billion Include 23% Growth in Wireless


NEW YORK, Jan. 27 /PRNewswire/ -- Verizon Communications Inc. today reported strong fourth-quarter and year-end 2004 results as quarterly revenues increased 6.2 percent, driven by a 10th consecutive quarter of double-digit, year-over-year revenue increases for wireless services. Wireless contributed $27.7 billion to the corporation's $71.3 billion total revenues in 2004.

For the fourth quarter 2004, Verizon reported earnings of $3.0 billion, or $1.08 per diluted share, compared with a loss of $1.5 bil...
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bigdaddyjay

Mar 31, 2005, 5:41 PM
SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS and BEDMINSTER, NEW JERSEY, Jan. 31, 2005 — SBC Communications Inc. (NYSE:SBC) and AT&T (NYSE:T) announced today an agreement for SBC to acquire AT&T, a combination that creates the nation's premier communications company with unmatched global reach.

The transaction combines AT&T's global systems capabilities, business and government customers, and fast-growing Internet protocol (IP)-based business with SBC's extraordinary local exchange, broadband and wireless solutions. Both companies have common values focused on customer service, innovation and reliability.

The combined company will have robust, high-quality network assets, both in the United States and around the globe, and complementary expertise and capabili...
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kingfrog77

Mar 31, 2005, 5:50 PM
YOu have no clue..all you can do is cut and paste information you can not understand.
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bigdaddyjay

Mar 31, 2005, 5:54 PM
This information was pasted so that others can see that you are full of crap, not that they didn't already know. I am glad to see that you have been using windows to prepare your posts so that you can grammar check before you copy and paste into this forum!! The make up lady at your clown show revue must have clued you in on that one. 🤣 🤣
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nextel18

Mar 31, 2005, 5:50 PM
well said. you forgot about the debt that BLS incurred too.
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CRCinOklnd

Mar 31, 2005, 8:13 PM
Good post...very informative. Learned a lot of stuff about You and the reasons "market-wise" why you did the things you did...and if you're being truthful, then my apologies for some of the things I said previously.
Question...Are you with Cingular (phone-wise) just because of how they are performing in the stock market, past, present and future? Wouldn't you want to be with the company that would be the better performer as far as performance, call connectivity, call quality, etc. (I know, I know...just my opinion!) What if something happened to Cingular in the future...like if they took a plunge. Would you jump ship and utilize another cell phone company? Just wondering.
Thanks again.
Chris
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kingfrog77

Mar 31, 2005, 8:45 PM
CRCinOklnd said:
Good post...very informative. Learned a lot of stuff about You and the reasons "market-wise" why you did the things you did...and if you're being truthful, then my apologies for some of the things I said previously.
Question...Are you with Cingular (phone-wise) just because of how they are performing in the stock market, past, present and future? Wouldn't you want to be with the company that would be the better performer as far as performance, call connectivity, call quality, etc. (I know, I know...just my opinion!) What if something happened to Cingular in the future...like if they took a plunge. Would you jump ship and utilize another cell phone company? Just wondering.
Thanks again.
Chris
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bigdaddyjay

Mar 31, 2005, 8:56 PM
No, you live on the computer. You once blasted me in a thread and said you used more minutes in a night than I use in a year, you sure do change your story a lot. I am glad to see that you might actually have a high school education, your posts over the last two days have been a great improvement, that is if your mom isn't helping you with them.
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speck

Mar 31, 2005, 9:01 PM
You know what... It may be the industry taking it's toll on me... But frankly... I no longer care who has #1

Customers hate us all as an industry, we all hate our customers regardless of the carrier we're with... And every carrier offers something the other doesn't.

This whole thread is a waste.
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busterhyman

Mar 31, 2005, 9:58 PM
Can I get a AMEN from the conragation 😁
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CRCinOklnd

Apr 1, 2005, 1:13 PM
Thanks Kingfrog! If I do choose to try out Cingular in May...will be looking for a good performing, but non-camera/non-PTT-text phone. Just interested in a phone being a phone. Would want it to be "global" or tri-band at least so I can use it in Europe later this year. Thanks again.
Chris
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kingfrog77

Apr 1, 2005, 3:42 PM
I don't use the cameras in the phones either. I have a 5 MP digital camera thats smaller then my phone.(Canon Elf) but I really like the Sony T637. In fact Im buying another as a back up. I always had a moto flip, but I like the bar now. Key lock is perfect on the bar phones and it rests easy between the chin and shoulder in a pinch. Also dont need those belt pouches as the phone is so small and thin the pocket is a fine "carrying case". In the car BT is excellent and syncing with outlook is a breeze as well.

The only problem I do get with Cingular and only here in Myrtle Beach is sometimes I get an echo of my own voice...But I put that in the category of "the technology is not perfect" and can live with those frailities on occasion. I d...
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CRCinOklnd

Apr 1, 2005, 6:12 PM
Thanks! I also like the "thinness" and small size of the bar-style as well...but as I statee in another post, my only concern is that since the receiving mic is further away from the mouth, would it pick-up more background noise. Otherwise, I always carry my phone in my pocket, that's why I have flip (LG-4500), but then with the locking feature of the bar phones, it doesn't seem like it would be an issue.
I sometimes get that echo too...so I think all cell phone companies and phones do that.
Myrtle Beach? Is that in San Luis Obispo County? My Aunt lives in Grover Beach. Just curious as I go down to visit her quite frequently. I live in Oakland...so wondering how coverage is in the East Bay.
Chris
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kingfrog77

Apr 1, 2005, 7:30 PM
CRCinOklnd said:
Thanks! I also like the "thinness" and small size of the bar-style as well...but as I statee in another post, my only concern is that since the receiving mic is further away from the mouth, would it pick-up more background noise. Otherwise, I always carry my phone in my pocket, that's why I have flip (LG-4500), but then with the locking feature of the bar phones, it doesn't seem like it would be an issue.
I sometimes get that echo too...so I think all cell phone companies and phones do that.
Myrtle Beach? Is that in San Luis Obispo County? My Aunt lives in Grover Beach. Just curious as I go down to visit her quite frequently. I live in Oakland...so wondering how coverage is in the East Bay.
Chris<
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CRCinOklnd

Apr 1, 2005, 8:37 PM
Myrtle Beach...of course it's in So Carolina! 🤭 Why didn't I know or remember that!?! 😕 OH, the old brain cells aren't what they used to be! 🤣
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CRCinOklnd

Apr 1, 2005, 6:15 PM
Oops, Sorry! Just realized you answered my question on the bar-style mouthpiece on another thread.
Chris
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nextel18

Mar 31, 2005, 9:53 PM
see he is a good poster.
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canddmeyer

Apr 1, 2005, 7:36 AM
This post probably belongs on another thread, but it's just another opinion, so enjoy it or lambast it all you want.

Well it’s time I jumped in on a conversation. Where I live, Sacramental, everyone has a cell phone. I don’t know anyone who doesn’t have a cell phone, and I know lots of people, and they don’t know anyone who doesn’t either. The market is saturated, and churn is what’s bringing in new customers. My local Cingular store was selling like gangbusters til mid-February when the rate plans changed (increased). A lot of folks were trying a new carrier, a new phone, or getting a backup phone. It’s mostly been a ghost town at Cingular since. Around then Verizon started their fantastic two line $59 family plan and business got back...
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CRCinOklnd

Apr 1, 2005, 1:25 PM
Thanks for the info and feedback! May I ask why you prefer bar-style over flip? Isn't it better to have the mic closer to your mouth in regards to background noise? But bar phones seem to be less hassle to answer, etc. Your feedback please! 🙂 🙂
Chris
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kingfrog77

Apr 1, 2005, 3:46 PM
CRCinOklnd said:
Thanks for the info and feedback! May I ask why you prefer bar-style over flip? Isn't it better to have the mic closer to your mouth in regards to background noise? But bar phones seem to be less hassle to answer, etc. Your feedback please! 🙂 🙂
Chris


I do not think the mouth piece has to be EXACTLY over the mouth. My BT headset proves that in spades. Thats old school thinking. The mics in these phones are not very directional and are pretty sensitive. I like the bar as its thinner and no need for a case. Pocket is fine. I use BT or the wired headset and answer via voice or button. Neve touch the phone. No opening and closing the shell.

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adilus

Apr 2, 2005, 8:34 PM
Just an FYi Kingfrog, and u can go the Securities website to find this:

Baiting (ie causing any fluctuation) a stock in any form in an open media venue is a direct violation of the Securities and Exchange Commission.

With your vast knowledge of the stock market (E*Trade probably) I would have thought you would know this.

I would tread lightly because if VZ has an attorney with too much time on his hands...
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kingfrog77

Apr 2, 2005, 8:36 PM
adilus said:
Just an FYi Kingfrog, and u can go the Securities website to find this:

Baiting (ie causing any fluctuation) a stock in any form in an open media venue is a direct violation of the Securities and Exchange Commission.

With your vast knowledge of the stock market (E*Trade probably) I would have thought you would know this.

I would tread lightly because if VZ has an attorney with too much time on his hands...


That attorney is laughing at you son.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 8:43 PM
yea, i am laughing at him too. hahahhahah. as long as one doesnt give inside information, that isnt posted anywhere, than that is against SEC regulations.
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adilus

Apr 4, 2005, 1:12 PM
oh puh-lease... lets not get into how stupid you sound and how stupid I've made u look.
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 1:20 PM
you didnt make me look stopid what-so-ever. you have no idea what the SEC rules are when it comes to posting about stocks and companies. NO IDEA!
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adilus

Apr 4, 2005, 3:34 PM
no duh... apparently you haven't read my other posts... it was to get flamers like you to bite... and the 2 biggest flamers... Kingfraud and you did...

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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 3:39 PM
how mature.


aww your nice. 😈 😈
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adilus

Apr 4, 2005, 1:13 PM
Don't call me son you child molesting freak.
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kingfrog77

Apr 2, 2005, 8:43 PM
If and when the day comes when I can singly CAUSE VZ or any stock to go up or down by my word alone, well I will buy a hedgefund and do it legally LOL

YOU need to brush up on your mail order paralegal classes. 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
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adilus

Apr 4, 2005, 5:38 AM
Oh btw Kingfroggy... I don't know a thing about the SEC or baiting stocks... I just typed that to see how long it took you to respond... I don't even read your posts.

To be honest, I don't know why but for some reason I just despise you as a human being... like if you were choking and I was the only person there to give you a heimlich, I'd say "Wow, that person is choking..." and keep on drinking my pint.
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kingfrog77

Apr 4, 2005, 1:17 PM
adilus said:
Oh btw Kingfroggy... I don't know a thing about the SEC or baiting stocks... I just typed that to see how long it took you to respond... I don't even read your posts.

To be honest, I don't know why but for some reason I just despise you as a human being... like if you were choking and I was the only person there to give you a heimlich, I'd say "Wow, that person is choking..." and keep on drinking my pint.


Yeah I know..you "ment" to do that. Keep drinking those pints.....Although your reality is well deserved I'm sure..
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adilus

Apr 4, 2005, 1:20 PM
LOL, that you keep responding helps re-assure what I have had originally posted.... YOU HAVE OCD.

Other than that get laid because you have way to much time on your hands.
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kingfrog77

Apr 4, 2005, 1:46 PM
adilus said:
LOL, that you keep responding helps re-assure what I have had originally posted.... YOU HAVE OCD.

Other than that get laid because you have way to much time on your hands.

Your right about one thing. I do have a lot of free time. Too much? Never. When you do what I do getting laid is not an issue. Neither is staying sober.

Wow you can spell OCD? Im very proud of ya....being a drunk and all.
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adilus

Apr 4, 2005, 3:36 PM
Oh god do you really think I care what you say? Yet u keep on posting... especially to shiiiteee I post knowing that my arse talks more than my mouth... OCD...
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zentec

Apr 3, 2005, 5:15 PM
For starters, if you're shorting stock, you're not an investor, you're a speculator. In that case, P/E ratio should mean nothing to you because a relative indicator of the value of the company has little effect on short-term investor sentiment. And investor sentiment is what you are trading on, not company value.

What does have an effect on short-term investor sentiment is rumor and innuendo, M&A news and the occasional flips in quarterly reports. That's it.

For the long term investor, what matters are the fundamentals. Until you're able to read the balance sheet and cash flow statements and discover the hidden asset plays (like Verizon's trump cards in licensing), you're likely to have to be content with paltry gains.

Making $7...
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muchdrama

Apr 3, 2005, 6:50 PM
zentec said:
For starters, if you're shorting stock, you're not an investor, you're a speculator. In that case, P/E ratio should mean nothing to you because a relative indicator of the value of the company has little effect on short-term investor sentiment. And investor sentiment is what you are trading on, not company value.

What does have an effect on short-term investor sentiment is rumor and innuendo, M&A news and the occasional flips in quarterly reports. That's it.

For the long term investor, what matters are the fundamentals. Until you're able to read the balance sheet and cash flow statements and discover the hidden asset plays (like Verizon's trump cards in licensing), you're likely to have to be conten
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kingfrog77

Apr 4, 2005, 1:14 PM
muchdrama said:
zentec said:
For starters, if you're shorting stock, you're not an investor, you're a speculator. In that case, P/E ratio should mean nothing to you because a relative indicator of the value of the company has little effect on short-term investor sentiment. And investor sentiment is what you are trading on, not company value.

What does have an effect on short-term investor sentiment is rumor and innuendo, M&A news and the occasional flips in quarterly reports. That's it.

For the long term investor, what matters are the fundamentals. Until you're able to read the balance sheet and cash flow statements and discover the hidden asset plays (like Verizon's trump cards in licensing)
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