Cingy changing their plans...better for VZW!!!
So I was nosing around the Cingy forum and heard that they are changing hteir plans June 1st. Looks like they are going to match VZW plans exactly, but raise their additional line fee to $14.99 (this used to be $19.99 on plans under $69.99 and $9.99 on plans $69.99 and up). Don't start spreading this since it was just a blurb in the Cingy forum, and I don't know if it is exclusive to certain markets...but here is what I found:
NEW CINGULAR RATE PLANS AS OF 6/01/2005
59.99 (2 lines) 500R min 5000nw unl m2m
79.99 (2 lines) 1000R min unl nw m2m
99.99 (2 lines) 1500R min unl nw m2m
149.99 (2 lines) 2500R min unl nw m2m
199.99 (2 lines) 3500R min unl nw m2m
299.99 (2 lines) 6000R min unl nw m2m
*each additional line 14.99*
6/1/05 Nation GSM Pricing
39.99 450R 5000 nw unl m2m
59.99 900R "unl nw unl m2m"
79.99 1350R
99.99 2000R
149.99 4000R
199.99 6000R
**No more Regional Family talks**
6/1/05 Region GSM Plan
Monthly
Access Anytime Minutes Additional Minutes Included
N & W Included
M2M Roaming
$39.99 600 $0.45 5000 0 $0.89
$59.99 1,300 $0.35 UNL 0 $0.89
$79.99 1,600 $0.35 UNL 0 $0.89
NEW CINGULAR RATE PLANS AS OF 6/01/2005
59.99 (2 lines) 500R min 5000nw unl m2m
79.99 (2 lines) 1000R min unl nw m2m
99.99 (2 lines) 1500R min unl nw m2m
149.99 (2 lines) 2500R min unl nw m2m
199.99 (2 lines) 3500R min unl nw m2m
299.99 (2 lines) 6000R min unl nw m2m
*each additional line 14.99*
6/1/05 Nation GSM Pricing
39.99 450R 5000 nw unl m2m
59.99 900R "unl nw unl m2m"
79.99 1350R
99.99 2000R
149.99 4000R
199.99 6000R
**No more Regional Family talks**
6/1/05 Region GSM Plan
Monthly
Access Anytime Minutes Additional Minutes Included
N & W Included
M2M Roaming
$39.99 600 $0.45 5000 0 $0.89
$59.99 1,300 $0.35 UNL 0 $0.89
$79.99 1,600 $0.35 UNL 0 $0.89
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keep in mind, Cingular shadows what we do, and vice versa. therefore, our plans might be changing too.
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ih8Verizon said:
yeah remember Cingy is #1
\only in amout of customers, Verizon is #1 in every single other catogory
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wfine81 said:ih8Verizon said:
yeah remember Cingy is #1
only in amout of customers, Verizon is #1 in every single other catogory
Yeah, but that's only if you are a brainwashed media drone. 😉
Who cares what a magazine says about something if their experience is different than said magazine?
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The point is that the MAJORITY of people will have the same experience as the report. That's how the report is made.
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Vatothe0 said:
The point is that the MAJORITY of people will have the same experience as the report. That's how the report is made.
NO. The point is that you are wrong. The report is made based on polls. And as we all know, polls are very poor indicators of anything. Just ask Presidents Gore and Kerry.
You bring up a very good point though. The magazines want you to believe that their report is the gospel. That their poll is a mirror reflection of the entire nation and the entire population.
Conducting a poll in LA does nothing for the reader/user in Michigan. But it will mold the person's perception if told that Carrier A is the best.
My point was that reading a magazine will not determine if you...
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You're right.... Consumer Reports, JD Power, The Financial Times, LAPTOP Magazine, PC Magazine, Fitch Ratings, Cahners, Wireless Systems Design, Ski Magazine, Epinions.com, CNet.com, PC World Magazine, MSNBC, and ConsumerSearch.com are all lying to make you think the way they think.
Clipped from ConsumerSearch.com...
Domestic U.S.
Considering all factors, Verizon is the best overall wireless service provider. In surveys of over 60,000 customers, Verizon attains the highest overall scores for customer satisfaction, network coverage and call quality. Verizon customers experienced fewer dropped calls and circuit overloads than with other carriers. While plan prices may not be the cheapest, rates are competitive.
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Clipped from ConsumerSearch.com...
Domestic U.S.
Considering all factors, Verizon is the best overall wireless service provider. In surveys of over 60,000 customers, Verizon attains the highest overall scores for customer satisfaction, network coverage and call quality. Verizon customers experienced fewer dropped calls and circuit overloads than with other carriers. While plan prices may not be the cheapest, rates are competitive.
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60,000 customers, out of 150 million?
That is less than 1/100th of a percent.
And if I wanted to know how next years Rossignal boots were going to rate against the Lange pair I have now I would reference SKI magazine.
Swerengin, c**k s**ker has it right. Use your brains and determine for yourself. If I lived in CA I would probably not choose to be a Cingular agent, I would have been Verizon. Since I am in Texas and Verizon is overall pretty average I choose Cingular.
REGIONAL is the word of the day. REGIONAL.
That is less than 1/100th of a percent.
And if I wanted to know how next years Rossignal boots were going to rate against the Lange pair I have now I would reference SKI magazine.
Swerengin, c**k s**ker has it right. Use your brains and determine for yourself. If I lived in CA I would probably not choose to be a Cingular agent, I would have been Verizon. Since I am in Texas and Verizon is overall pretty average I choose Cingular.
REGIONAL is the word of the day. REGIONAL.
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Until every inch of American soil is tainted with some high-band, digital-encoded radio signal with crystal clear clarity, the idea of consistant superior national service is nothing more than a wet dream.
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texaswireless said:
And if I wanted to know how next years Rossignal boots were going to rate against the Lange pair I have now I would reference SKI magazine.
Orrr they might be a good place to find out how good phone service is at popular skiing areas. I'd like to see you try your phone and make "your own determination" at every place you're going to need your phone within the trial period. Hope you have a rocket to ride around on or something.
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I'm sorry, but 1/100th of the phone users in the country to determine carrier quality is ridiculous.
I also don't really want to hear what a bunch of stoned snowboarders have to say.
Wanker, two plankers rule!
I also don't really want to hear what a bunch of stoned snowboarders have to say.
Wanker, two plankers rule!
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From About.com..
Consumer Reports says Verizon Wireless is the best provider
It seems like the the "best network" reputation largely attributed to Verizon Wireless is not just a rumor, according to Consumer Reports, which surveyed 12 metro areas.
From PCWorld.com writer James Martin
Ever since number portability kicked in last November, wireless phone service providers have been scrambling to keep subscribers from defecting with increasingly competitive offers. That's the good news.
The bad news? All those new offers make it more difficult than ever to figure out which provider to choose, which phone will best suit your wireless voice and data needs, and which service plan to pick.
It's as if instead of "Can you hear me no...
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Consumer Reports says Verizon Wireless is the best provider
It seems like the the "best network" reputation largely attributed to Verizon Wireless is not just a rumor, according to Consumer Reports, which surveyed 12 metro areas.
From PCWorld.com writer James Martin
Ever since number portability kicked in last November, wireless phone service providers have been scrambling to keep subscribers from defecting with increasingly competitive offers. That's the good news.
The bad news? All those new offers make it more difficult than ever to figure out which provider to choose, which phone will best suit your wireless voice and data needs, and which service plan to pick.
It's as if instead of "Can you hear me no...
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Ok, go for it.
But as others have said here, don't just look at surveys, use your knowledge of your own area to discover who is best there. They surveyed only a dozen or so regions around the country, out of over 100 major markets. Are you willing to trust a survey conducted over less than 10% of the country using less than 1/100th of customers WITHOUT doing some of your own personal research? Friends, neighbors and co-workers are a substantially better resources for your area than some national magazine. If most of them prefer someone over another you'd be better off following their advice.
But as others have said here, don't just look at surveys, use your knowledge of your own area to discover who is best there. They surveyed only a dozen or so regions around the country, out of over 100 major markets. Are you willing to trust a survey conducted over less than 10% of the country using less than 1/100th of customers WITHOUT doing some of your own personal research? Friends, neighbors and co-workers are a substantially better resources for your area than some national magazine. If most of them prefer someone over another you'd be better off following their advice.
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texaswireless said:
Ok, go for it.
But as others have said here, don't just look at surveys, use your knowledge of your own area to discover who is best there. They surveyed only a dozen or so regions around the country, out of over 100 major markets. Are you willing to trust a survey conducted over less than 10% of the country using less than 1/100th of customers WITHOUT doing some of your own personal research? Friends, neighbors and co-workers are a substantially better resources for your area than some national magazine. If most of them prefer someone over another you'd be better off following their advice.
That's why companies have trial periods...try them out and keep them if you like them..du...
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Digital Pimp said:
That's why companies have trial periods...try them out and keep them if you like them..dump them if you don't. But BEFORE all that all you have to go on is surveys and reports..that is what I think he was trying to point out. Verizon is #1 and kicking other companies butt's in customer adds and satisfaction. If I had never used a cellular phone before and was reading about cellular companies to get one..Verizon would be the one I would pick because of the reports and surveys showing VZW is #1. 😈
Which is exactly my point. Someone in Michigan will not benefit from a magazine that did a survey in NYC. His local newspaper would be a better resource than Consumer Reports.
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I don't know about you but my time is infinitely more valuable than to waste it trying out carriers when simply asking some friends, family and co-workers who works well for them. You just seem so stuck on those surveys to think they are your only resource. You would be sorely disappointed if you bought Verizon, based on those surveys, and lived in most of the major Texas cities.
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texaswireless said:
I don't know about you but my time is infinitely more valuable than to waste it trying out carriers when simply asking some friends, family and co-workers who works well for them. You just seem so stuck on those surveys to think they are your only resource. You would be sorely disappointed if you bought Verizon, based on those surveys, and lived in most of the major Texas cities.
I sell Verizon Wireless and used to work for Cingular and Bell South Mobility as a tech...I DONT go by just surveys bro. Heads up, what I put in the first thread makes alot of sense..if you can't put in a couple days trying out a service for yourself that you want to pay monthly for you dont deserve a cellul...
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Ahhh, now we see.
You aren't offering up solutions to help customers make up their mind, you just want to toot the horn of Verizon.
So be it, and you are welcome to have this opinion. But you know what, CNN and all those other national companies have no idea how well Verizon works in Flower Mound, TX or any other small city or suburb.
Nice to see you were graciuous enough to allow customers to seek the advice of friends and family this time around.
It isn't the couple days, it's the time spent in the store shopping for a service when the service sucks in that area anyways but CNN said it was good. Whether it be Verizon, Cingular or everyone else, we all have areas where we do well and areas where we suck.
You aren't offering up solutions to help customers make up their mind, you just want to toot the horn of Verizon.
So be it, and you are welcome to have this opinion. But you know what, CNN and all those other national companies have no idea how well Verizon works in Flower Mound, TX or any other small city or suburb.
Nice to see you were graciuous enough to allow customers to seek the advice of friends and family this time around.
It isn't the couple days, it's the time spent in the store shopping for a service when the service sucks in that area anyways but CNN said it was good. Whether it be Verizon, Cingular or everyone else, we all have areas where we do well and areas where we suck.
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Ahhh, now we see.
You aren't offering up solutions to help customers make up their mind, you just want to toot the horn of Verizon.
So be it, and you are welcome to have this opinion. But you know what, CNN and all those other national companies have no idea how well Verizon works in Flower Mound, TX or any other small city or suburb.
Nice to see you were graciuous enough to allow customers to seek the advice of friends and family this time around.
It isn't the couple days, it's the time spent in the store shopping for a service when the service sucks in that area anyways but CNN said it was good. Whether it be Verizon, Cingular or everyone else, we all have areas where we do well and are
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Digital Pimp said:...
your not getting it. When I talk about CNN I didn't say IN TEXAS did i? And I let customers choose whatever they want...I don't grab their arm and say you HAVE TO HAVE VERIZON. But NATIONWIDE Verizon has the best service when you travel, that is a FACT. Proven by studies and reports. OK? You seem to not understand how this industry works. I will praise Verizon when they are doing well, why wouldn't I? If your team is about to win the national championship are you going to say they suck? Because they lost one game in texas? Think about it..I know it will be hard...but try. Customers will choose as they please but if you take a phone away and within 20 minutes of having it, it drops a call TAKE
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BetterThanJake said:...Digital Pimp said:
your not getting it. When I talk about CNN I didn't say IN TEXAS did i? And I let customers choose whatever they want...I don't grab their arm and say you HAVE TO HAVE VERIZON. But NATIONWIDE Verizon has the best service when you travel, that is a FACT. Proven by studies and reports. OK? You seem to not understand how this industry works. I will praise Verizon when they are doing well, why wouldn't I? If your team is about to win the national championship are you going to say they suck? Because they lost one game in texas? Think about it..I know it will be hard...but try. Customers will choose as they please but if you take a phone away and within 20 m
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Digital Pimp said:...
your not getting it. When I talk about CNN I didn't say IN TEXAS did i? And I let customers choose whatever they want...I don't grab their arm and say you HAVE TO HAVE VERIZON. But NATIONWIDE Verizon has the best service when you travel, that is a FACT. Proven by studies and reports. OK? You seem to not understand how this industry works. I will praise Verizon when they are doing well, why wouldn't I? If your team is about to win the national championship are you going to say they suck? Because they lost one game in texas? Think about it..I know it will be hard...but try. Customers will choose as they please but if you take a phone away and within 20 minutes of having it, it drops a call TA
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Al_Swearengen said:...Digital Pimp said:
your not getting it. When I talk about CNN I didn't say IN TEXAS did i? And I let customers choose whatever they want...I don't grab their arm and say you HAVE TO HAVE VERIZON. But NATIONWIDE Verizon has the best service when you travel, that is a FACT. Proven by studies and reports. OK? You seem to not understand how this industry works. I will praise Verizon when they are doing well, why wouldn't I? If your team is about to win the national championship are you going to say they suck? Because they lost one game in texas? Think about it..I know it will be hard...but try. Customers will choose as they please but if you take a phone away and within 20
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Not only are you finding your "research" in polls and surveys, you're finding polls and surveys that are way past old news.
Since this report, T-Mobile, who placed last in customer satisfaction, has turned around and took the #1 spot from Verizon in the J.D. Power & Associates survey for the past two years. Cingular has nearly doubled their network size and customer service force, and Sprint PCS has announced a merger with Nextel that could potentially produce numbers that would blow even Verizon out of the water.
So much for you "research" giving you lagitimate information. If you're going to base your choice on silly polls and surveys, at least try to base them on something as recent as this year. Now wouldn't that make a little b...
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Since this report, T-Mobile, who placed last in customer satisfaction, has turned around and took the #1 spot from Verizon in the J.D. Power & Associates survey for the past two years. Cingular has nearly doubled their network size and customer service force, and Sprint PCS has announced a merger with Nextel that could potentially produce numbers that would blow even Verizon out of the water.
So much for you "research" giving you lagitimate information. If you're going to base your choice on silly polls and surveys, at least try to base them on something as recent as this year. Now wouldn't that make a little b...
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Vatothe0 said:...
You're right.... Consumer Reports, JD Power, The Financial Times, LAPTOP Magazine, PC Magazine, Fitch Ratings, Cahners, Wireless Systems Design, Ski Magazine, Epinions.com, CNet.com, PC World Magazine, MSNBC, and ConsumerSearch.com are all lying to make you think the way they think.
Clipped from ConsumerSearch.com...
Domestic U.S.
Considering all factors, Verizon is the best overall wireless service provider. In surveys of over 60,000 customers, Verizon attains the highest overall scores for customer satisfaction, network coverage and call quality. Verizon customers experienced fewer dropped calls and circuit overloads than with other carriers. While plan prices may not be the cheapest, rates are
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Vatothe0 said:
Yeah.... Stupid Consumer Reports... What do they know? Right?
Well, they know how to do a SURVEY in 12 cities and make America think it's the gospel. Impressive, but not up to the "national" standards.
If consumer reports were to open up that survey to all 100 of the top markets, then it might actually mean something.
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I'd say they have more experience in how to rate products and services than you do though.
How many people pay you every year for your advice on thousands of products and services? I'll bet it's not as many as pay Consumer Reports.
How many people pay you every year for your advice on thousands of products and services? I'll bet it's not as many as pay Consumer Reports.
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Vatothe0 said:
I'd say they have more experience in how to rate products and services than you do though.
How many people pay you every year for your advice on thousands of products and services? I'll bet it's not as many as pay Consumer Reports.
Oh, so you have to be paid to know what you are talking about?
Here's the deal:
"They" are doing a survey. To rate anything on a survey is just stupid to begin with. The only reason to do a survey is to find a matching response to what the surveyer wants. Almost every poll or survey in the US is an opinion Maker, not an opinion Taker.
Then we move on to my main point.
Magazine A does a survey in 12 cities. Says that Company A is the best.
New Custome...
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Al_Swearengen said:
Not one of those magazines did a survey in all top 100 markets. They average 12-20 cities max.
Show me one that does, and then we'll talk.
I'd probably agree with you if the data was even close. But looking at the last CR report, Verizon beat Cingular in EVERY SINGLE city surveyed. That really shows me something.
It's kinda like a football game with a final score of 35-7... you really can't blame it on a couple of bad ref calls.
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Al_Swearengen said:wfine81 said:ih8Verizon said:
yeah remember Cingy is #1
only in amout of customers, Verizon is #1 in every single other catogory
Yeah, but that's only if you are a brainwashed media drone. 😉
Who cares what a magazine says about something if their experience is different than said magazine?
Churn rate and profits aren't 'media creations', and Verizon consistently bests Cingy in those. 🙂
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BetterThanJake said:Al_Swearengen said:wfine81 said:ih8Verizon said:
yeah remember Cingy is #1
only in amout of customers, Verizon is #1 in every single other catogory
Yeah, but that's only if you are a brainwashed media drone. 😉
Who cares what a magazine says about something if their experience is different than said magazine?
Churn rate and profits aren't 'media creations', and Verizon consistently bests Cingy in those. 🙂
Agreed. But Cingular is consistently besting Verizon in ARPU, Data ARPU, raw adds, and income. The only reason Verizon is beating the new Cingular in profits is because of...
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Al_Swearengen said:...BetterThanJake said:Al_Swearengen said:wfine81 said:ih8Verizon said:
yeah remember Cingy is #1
only in amout of customers, Verizon is #1 in every single other catogory
Yeah, but that's only if you are a brainwashed media drone. 😉
Who cares what a magazine says about something if their experience is different than said magazine?
Churn rate and profits aren't 'media creations', and Verizon consistently bests Cingy in those. 🙂
Agreed. But Cingular is consistently besting Verizon in ARPU, Data ARPU, raw adds, and income. The only reason Verizon is beating t
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Celling_it said:...Al_Swearengen said:BetterThanJake said:Al_Swearengen said:wfine81 said:ih8Verizon said:
yeah remember Cingy is #1
only in amout of customers, Verizon is #1 in every single other catogory
Yeah, but that's only if you are a brainwashed media drone. 😉
Who cares what a magazine says about something if their experience is different than said magazine?
Churn rate and profits aren't 'media creations', and Verizon consistently bests Cingy in those. 🙂
Agreed. But Cingular is consistently besting Verizon in ARPU, Data ARPU, raw adds, and income.
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I don't know that we can blame all of Cingy's troubles with churn on their ATTW customers.
Granted, they make a bad situation worse, but Cingy had much higher churn than Verizon even before the merger. It's something for them to work on. And I think Cingy folks need to stop trying to have it both ways... as in, bragging about how they're #1 in customer count, due to their ATTW acquisition, and then at the same time putting down the ATTW customer base as ruining their churn rate, being 'whiners', etc. etc. Hey guys, your Blue customers got you where you are right now, better learn to love 'em or they'll leave ya. 🙂
Far as 'raw adds' go, well, its neat that Cingy does well there, but what good does it do if they lose over a million cus...
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Granted, they make a bad situation worse, but Cingy had much higher churn than Verizon even before the merger. It's something for them to work on. And I think Cingy folks need to stop trying to have it both ways... as in, bragging about how they're #1 in customer count, due to their ATTW acquisition, and then at the same time putting down the ATTW customer base as ruining their churn rate, being 'whiners', etc. etc. Hey guys, your Blue customers got you where you are right now, better learn to love 'em or they'll leave ya. 🙂
Far as 'raw adds' go, well, its neat that Cingy does well there, but what good does it do if they lose over a million cus...
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I don't know that we can blame all of Cingy's troubles with churn on their ATTW customers.
Granted, they make a bad situation worse, but Cingy had much higher churn than Verizon even before the merger. It's something for them to work on. And I think Cingy folks need to stop trying to have it both ways... as in, bragging about how they're #1 in customer count, due to their ATTW acquisition, and then at the same time putting down the ATTW customer base as ruining their churn rate, being 'whiners', etc. etc. Hey guys, your Blue customers got you where you are right now, better learn to love 'em or they'll leave ya. 🙂
Far as 'raw adds' go, well, its neat that Cingy does well there, but what good d
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Al_Swearengen said:
Internal numbers show that Orange churn is lower than it has ever been.
Yup... and still nowhere near as low as VZW's.
It also shows that most of the customers leaving are ATT customers.
Ok... but that still doesn't explain why Cingy's churn was high BEFORE the merger as well. As in, before you got any ATTW customers.
Also... is saying "Well, a lot of our churn is ATTW customers" any kind of excuse at all? That seems to point out the inability of Cingy to keep their new customers happy. Not really comforting.
The thing you should focus on is the fact that Cingular's churn is drastically dropping every quarter and the raw adds are gett...
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BetterThanJake said:...Al_Swearengen said:
Internal numbers show that Orange churn is lower than it has ever been.
Yup... and still nowhere near as low as VZW's.It also shows that most of the customers leaving are ATT customers.
Ok... but that still doesn't explain why Cingy's churn was high BEFORE the merger as well. As in, before you got any ATTW customers.
Also... is saying "Well, a lot of our churn is ATTW customers" any kind of excuse at all? That seems to point out the inability of Cingy to keep their new customers happy. Not really comforting.The thing you should focus on is the fact that Cingular's churn is drastically droppin
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Aarynk said:...BetterThanJake said:Al_Swearengen said:
Internal numbers show that Orange churn is lower than it has ever been.
Yup... and still nowhere near as low as VZW's.It also shows that most of the customers leaving are ATT customers.
Ok... but that still doesn't explain why Cingy's churn was high BEFORE the merger as well. As in, before you got any ATTW customers.
Also... is saying "Well, a lot of our churn is ATTW customers" any kind of excuse at all? That seems to point out the inability of Cingy to keep their new customers happy. Not really comforting.The thing you should focus on is the fact that Cingul
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Everyone of your points has a Pro Verizon/Anti Cingular slant and skew. Not any objectivity at all.
You seem to be going in circles by bringing up the same points that have been discounted. I think you would have a better idea if you looked at the entire picture instead of just a small portion of it. You are looking at the tip of the iceberg instead of concentrating on the mountain of ice underneath. But you have a right to your opinion and if that's how you feel about it after looking at all the facts then ok. But, like I said, you are only looking at 2 or 3 facts.
Honestly, who cares what happened "before the merger"? We are talking about now. The present.
If you look at ALL of the stats instead of the 2 or 3 that you are continu...
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You seem to be going in circles by bringing up the same points that have been discounted. I think you would have a better idea if you looked at the entire picture instead of just a small portion of it. You are looking at the tip of the iceberg instead of concentrating on the mountain of ice underneath. But you have a right to your opinion and if that's how you feel about it after looking at all the facts then ok. But, like I said, you are only looking at 2 or 3 facts.
Honestly, who cares what happened "before the merger"? We are talking about now. The present.
If you look at ALL of the stats instead of the 2 or 3 that you are continu...
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Al_Swearengen said:
Everyone of your points has a Pro Verizon/Anti Cingular slant and skew. Not any objectivity at all.
And any reasonable person would accuse you of a Pro-Cingular/Anti-Verizon slant, with no objectivity at all. Pot, kettle, black. What of it? 🙂
You are right about one thing... it will be a long battle. You like your side, and I like mine. We shall see what happens. 😉
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BetterThanJake said:Al_Swearengen said:
Everyone of your points has a Pro Verizon/Anti Cingular slant and skew. Not any objectivity at all.
And any reasonable person would accuse you of a Pro-Cingular/Anti-Verizon slant, with no objectivity at all. Pot, kettle, black. What of it? 🙂
Not at all. I examined all the facts. I don't concentrate on just the 2-3 that make Cingular look better. I look at the entire picture and have concluded that Cingular is better. I'm sorry you have a problem with that.
I don't even work for Cingular. I have just used almost every carrier and Cingular works best for me, my family, most of my friends. Some of my friends have even been bill...
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Great. I put a lot of time and thought into my decision, and guess what? I came to a different conclusion. It also eased my decision that Verizon totally blows away Cingular here in the SF/SJ Bay Area.
Hopefully, you can learn to accept that I like Verizon better... it would be silly for you to hold a grudge simply because I don't agree with ya. 😉
Hopefully, you can learn to accept that I like Verizon better... it would be silly for you to hold a grudge simply because I don't agree with ya. 😉
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BetterThanJake said:
Great. I put a lot of time and thought into my decision, and guess what? I came to a different conclusion. It also eased my decision that Verizon totally blows away Cingular here in the SF/SJ Bay Area.
Hopefully, you can learn to accept that I like Verizon better... it would be silly for you to hold a grudge simply because I don't agree with ya. 😉
Grudge?
Don't try to make this personal. I'm glad Verizon works better for you in Frisco, but I thought this conversation was about company metrics not who you liked better. You claim that based on 2 or 3 points that Verizon is doing better than Cingular. Even though it's been shown that the New Cingular is leading in several metric...
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Verizon is very good in several major catagories. But your statement reeks of the fact that you enjoy cool-aid.
Verizon is NOT number one in everything else. ARPU is a good example.
Verizon is definately a great carrier, but it is a fools mistake to say what he did.
Verizon is NOT number one in everything else. ARPU is a good example.
Verizon is definately a great carrier, but it is a fools mistake to say what he did.
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I wasn't going to post this information, I found out about it 2 weeks ago. But I guess since it is out... yah, those numbers are right, except I can't vouche for the Regional plans, I didn't see those.
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regional plans aren't offered as of june 1, and yes the plans are right.
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however they are cutting down the areas that they are offering them, and it is only a matter of time before they phase out region plans
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in my opinion the won't. they're cutting down the markets that they are available in.
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