it's possible if you doctor yourp hone, but i wouldn't try using MOU on the evdo network. we disconnected a lot of lines on friday and billed the ETFs for that same reason. it violates VZW's TOS and is essentially the cell industry's version of using a black box to get free cable.

it's possible, but i wouldn't do it. stick to the 1x if you're going to tether

I believe the TOS allows VZW to charge for data use based on metering the data. It appears that VZW currently chooses not to bill in that way for National Access data usage. I don't see how this is the same as theft of service on cable systems. Users are not doing anything behind VZW's back.

if you're doctoring your phone to do something it wasn't intended to do, then yes you are doing something behind vzw's back.

if you're tethering to vzw's evdo network on a MOU plan, then you're essentially getting unlimited wireless broadband internet at night for free. this is a service vzw charges $80/month for.

VZW is aware of anyone who uses evdo or 1x. It is clear from the detail on the bill. If they choose to bill the ETF they can. This is not behind their back. The so-called black box for cable is something that the cable company cannot detect. It is theft of service and violates the TOS.

so you think that doctoring your phone to use a service verizon doesn't even offer isn't stealing?

oh well, do it. i don't really care. i'm not here to argue morals. i'm just telling you what you're planning on doing does violate TOS and vzw does reserve the right to cancel your service and bill you the etf.

if you don't want to take my advice, that's fine. i'm just letting you know what can happen from experience

My current TOS (AC1) says nothing about requiring a data plan for internet access. This is not a "moral" issue. VZW and the customer are free to operate within the boundaries of their contract. And they are free to part company.

Just out of curiousity, exactly what did the customers do which prompted you guys to disconnect and bill the ETF?

You said "stick to the 1x if you're going to tether." Does EVDO access violate TOS but 1x does not?

again, when you're doctoring your phone to access a service that VZW doesn't offer and something you're not supposed to have in the first place, i'd say that's a moral issue.

i work on a team that finds stuff like this for verizon. generally if we find somebody who's using the 1x to use mou, we're more lenient about it, as that's a package we offer. if we catch someone using a VCAST phone as a modem for their laptop, their service is immediately interrupted.

i'm not saying don't do it, just saying i warned you if you get caught.

OK, I hear you.

Does VZW still allow QNC mou access in their current TOS? Or is QNC gone?

Do you mean Quick2Net? That service is still around. There's nothing against it. All it is is dial up over a cell phone. You're basically using the phone as an audio coupler by that time though and your speed will be around 14.4 modem speed.

Yes, that is what I mean. I do not think that using Quick2Net violates any TOS. (AC1 or AC2.) It does not require a data plan. Billing is MOU.

The E815, as initially configured, does not support dial up. What is VZW's method for using Quick2Net on the E815? It must offer some way to legitimately enable DUN.

There is a mobile office kit available for 39.99. Most stores should have them or they can be ordered from customer service.

Vatothe0 said:
There is a mobile office kit available for 39.99. Most stores should have them or they can be ordered from customer service.

We can not and will not sell you a mobile office kit for the 815. Because customers such as listed in the previous post will attempt or succeed in what is being described above.

The thing is, I talked to a co-ordinator the other day about syncing a customer's outlook address book onto his phone and I was told that a mobile office kit will do that. I'm guessing that's the only thing it will do becuase I saw that teathering an EVDO phone is strictly prohibited.