By no means am I trying to suggest that Cingular will win in net additions this quarter, but I do believe that it will be a lot closer between Cingular and Verizon than yourself and Jake seem to think.

Most Cingular reps you've talked to lately admit they're gonna lose? 1. How many Cingular reps have you talked to lately? & 2. You would be very hard pressed to make an accurate prediction just from reps in one or two stores in one or two markets, am I right?

In my market I've been to a few different Cingular corporate stores because I've been searching for a new phone. Two of those stores are located in malls directly acoss from Verizon Wireless stores. If you're going to base your predictions on solely talking to a few reps, then ...
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Hate to step in, but you're kind of making some assumptions there, RUFF. For all you know, 'Van knows more reps than just "in one or two stores in one or two markets".

And y'know, it isn't just Van and friends saying stuff like this, I seem to recall Merrill Lynch a few weeks back making much the same call.

For myself,I just think the Family Share factor is going to be huge, $9.99 add-a-line vs $14.99 add-a-line definitely hurts Cingy IMO, because it is AMAZING how many families are signing up their little cherubs (or brats, as the case may be) for phones. You see the frackin' kids rollin' down the streets on their ten-speeds, one hand on the handlebars, the other on a phone. It is C-R-A-Z-Y how much we pamper our kids in this country...
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Verizon has had the $9.99 add a line since Feb and that should help a lot in their gross adds. In Cingular's defense, I think they only rolled out the $14.99 beginning of June, so it may not impact them as much.

Parents have been adding lines for their children at a younger and younger age, but most of them do it for security reasons. Many parents look at it as a necessity now, not only for their children, but for their parents as well.

turbodeuce said:
Verizon has had the $9.99 add a line since Feb and that should help a lot in their gross adds. In Cingular's defense, I think they only rolled out the $14.99 beginning of June, so it may not impact them as much.

You've got a point there. Maybe the real hurt won't come until Q3. If so, Ruff is right, it may be sorta close.

Its too bad for Cingy that they had to raise prices, but I guess they had to do something. They don't want to run another $240 million loss like last quarter.
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BetterThanJake said:
Its too bad for Cingy that they had to raise prices, but I guess they had to do something. They don't want to run another $240 million loss like last quarter.
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If they can keep their gross income as high as it was the last 2 quarters and keep the costs down, they will do ok. The only reason they 'lost' money was because of merger expenses. They brought more money in than anyone else.

I bet VZW will be at least 150% over net-add that they forecasted.

I was extremely disappointed by cingular's sub growth, but I did like their churn levels, their arpu levels and their data arpu. The 1.1 million that they got for the 2nd quarter was dismal to say the least. My expectations still stand with verizon to get 1.4-1.6 million or so customers. If that is the case, then we can tell that many people left cingular to go to verizon or to other carriers.

Working on the Cingular side I would have expected worse results. People from AT&T wireless are not all happy with the merger, to say the least.

I guess. I have posted that 4 million plus subscribers have migrated over to cingular's network from nov 14th. I always expect from a big carrier such as cingular to average 1.5 million per quarter and will be disappointed, like the 2nd quarter, if they don’t reach that mark.

" I always expect from a big carrier such as cingular to average 1.5 million per quarter and will be disappointed, like the 2nd quarter, if they don’t reach that mark."

loll sorry. let me rephrase that sentence.

this is what I meant to say. "I have always expected that a big carrier like cingular will always average 1.5 million per quarter, however, if they get anything less (like they did in the 2nd quarter) it will be disappointing.

nextel18 said:
I was extremely disappointed by cingular's sub growth, but I did like their churn levels, their arpu levels and their data arpu. The 1.1 million that they got for the 2nd quarter was dismal to say the least. My expectations still stand with verizon to get 1.4-1.6 million or so customers. If that is the case, then we can tell that many people left cingular to go to verizon or to other carriers.

Yea, I have to agree, cingular must be pretty bummed right now. Some analysts had them at 1.2 million net added customers this quarter, and they came in below that.

In fact cingular is on a pretty worrying pattern for them. The quarter of the merger they got 1.8 million net customer adds, the quarter...
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VZWVan said:

nextel18 said:
I was extremely disappointed by cingular's sub growth, but I did like their churn levels, their arpu levels and their data arpu. The 1.1 million that they got for the 2nd quarter was dismal to say the least. My expectations still stand with verizon to get 1.4-1.6 million or so customers. If that is the case, then we can tell that many people left cingular to go to verizon or to other carriers.

Yea, I have to agree, cingular must be pretty bummed right now. Some analysts had them at 1.2 million net added customers this quarter, and they came in below that.

In fact cingular is on a pretty worrying pattern for them. The quarter of the merger they got 1.8 milli

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muchdrama said:

VZWVan said:
Yea, I have to agree, cingular must be pretty bummed right now. Some analysts had them at 1.2 million net added customers this quarter, and they came in below that.

In fact cingular is on a pretty worrying pattern for them. The quarter of the merger they got 1.8 million net customer adds, the quarter after they dropped to 1.4 million, and now theyre down to 1.1. They are falling back to what cingular and att did combined before the merger, where cingular was net adding something like 850,000 a quarter and AT&T was adding zilch, pretty much.

At least their churn held steady, they need that to not get any worse or then theyll REALLY be hurting.

I wouldn

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Oh and you know what? My bad, i said cingular got 1.1 million new adds, actually they got 1.07 - link:

http://www.thestreet.com/_yahoo/tech/scottmoritz/102 ... »

dont want someone flyin in and correcting me. 🙄

VZWVan said:

muchdrama said:

VZWVan said:
Yea, I have to agree, cingular must be pretty bummed right now. Some analysts had them at 1.2 million net added customers this quarter, and they came in below that.

In fact cingular is on a pretty worrying pattern for them. The quarter of the merger they got 1.8 million net customer adds, the quarter after they dropped to 1.4 million, and now theyre down to 1.1. They are falling back to what cingular and att did combined before the merger, where cingular was net adding something like 850,000 a quarter and AT&T was adding zilch, pretty much.

At least their churn held steady, they need that to not get any worse or then theyll REALLY be

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Yes, analysts had them gaining about 1.2-1.3 million subscribers. In fact they didn’t get 1.1 million subs they got 1.074 million, but that is close enough to round up which most carriers do anyway. The problem that I don’t like is that cingular’s prepaid unit keeps on losing customers quarter after quarter, which shows some serious problems with that unit. As you know, the prepaid market is a very good market with a lot of spending power, which should help the carrier who has a successful prepaid product. The good thing that I do like about cingular’s numbers are their continuing of growth in DATA arpu, arpu and decreasing in churn by a few basis points every quarter. I don’t like the fact that they have been going on a decline from wha...
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nextel18 said:
Yes, analysts had them gaining about 1.2-1.3 million subscribers. In fact they didn’t get 1.1 million subs they got 1.074 million, but that is close enough to round up which most carriers do anyway.

You want to round up 300,000 subscribers? Uh, you may want to rethink that.

muchdrama said:

nextel18 said:
Yes, analysts had them gaining about 1.2-1.3 million subscribers. In fact they didn’t get 1.1 million subs they got 1.074 million, but that is close enough to round up which most carriers do anyway.

You want to round up 300,000 subscribers? Uh, you may want to rethink that.

Sorry, folks...wrong post to the wrong person.

lol...scarry thing is.... cingy president was extremely happy with the results. I hate anaylists.... there in the same boat as a movie critic..... they guess

lol..

what else would they say? these results were terrible and we are just terrible? lol come on. they have to say something positive.

I'm a satisfied Verizon customer, but I hope that Cingular does well, and makes a good profit. It's in our best interest to have a competitive marketplace to keep rates low and force all carriers to improve service. The less options we have, the less the incentive to innovate, improve service, and keep rates down.

Yes, that is true, and I would concur with your assessments. I like that new products will be coming out from the companies such as high-speed data and things of that nature. As I mentioned in many posts, I believe that DATA arpu will be very important as this market gets saturated. The problem is I don’t think that cingular will do quite well especially if they are losing customers in the prepaid market as well as having a nice decline in subscribers for this quarter from last quarter and from their 1.8 million a poster has mentioned earlier.

Thanks Rich 😁

Yea, I'd have to agree. If any one carrier becomes too dominant, thatll end up being bad for the customer in the long run.

THe problem is though is that you talk to come cingular people, and they think they dont have to step it up, that theyre the best already and everything is fine. With an attitude like that, their not going to be very competitive for long. It could eventually be up to Sprint-Nextel to keep VZW in check.

yea, that is true. I agree with your last statement. I think competition is very good for the marketplace and it could push other companies to do better. the problem is, after rev O that verizon will be doing, (and if they have an option to go to REV A) what will they be doing next? Nextel/sprint is already testing wimax, td-cdma and flarion(well tested that) while verizon hasn’t even tested anything or mentioned anything about any 4g situation. I think verizon wireless should be moving quicker then this because soon they will be way behind. as more products and services comes out, DATA arpu will be very important(especially in a market that will become saturated soon) and with a lack of product, it could hurt that very important metric and ...
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Do you actually think before you post? Name one carrier that has a data speed close to EVDO. Set away from the bottle, remove head from a**, then post something that is somewhere close to the truth.

yea, you didnt read my post i guess.

anyway verizon has ev-do, sprint/nextel will have ev-do.. re-read the post again and if you are going to say something stupid like you just did dont bother replying. thanks

You're talking about all this stuff that everyone else is testing, while no one has anything close to the data speeds that VZW has. I read the post and amazingly enough it said the same thing the second time. Why don't let the 3g technology catch up to VZW before you start dooming them to getting behind.

yep.. you didnt read it i guess. i wont explain it again, sorry. if you dont get it then you dont get it.

nextel18 said:
yep.. you didnt read it i guess. i wont explain it again, sorry. if you dont get it then you dont get it.

I wouldn't explain something I couldn't understand either.

I started to not even say anything with the way he usually tries to twist everything around to make him sound right. Wonder if we ignore him, will he go away? He hasn't brought anything useful to this forum that I have seen.

bigoltexasboy said:
I started to not even say anything with the way he usually tries to twist everything around to make him sound right. Wonder if we ignore him, will he go away? He hasn't brought anything useful to this forum that I have seen.

Believe me...he doesn't go away.

And covering your ears and screaming LALALALALALALALALA doesn't work either. 😁

At least he's good for a laugh every now and then. Ignorance can be amusing no matter how sad it seems.

nextel18 said:
Nextel/sprint is already testing wimax, td-cdma and flarion(well tested that) while verizon hasn’t even tested anything or mentioned anything about any 4g situation. I think verizon wireless should be moving quicker then this because soon they will be way behind. /

Verizon's 3g network already covers 120 million people. Perhaps they're concentrating on finishing what they've started? Perhaps they're testing 4g technologies before they announce them? Verizon's been at the forefront of just about everything for quite a while...I wouldn't worry about them falling behind.

Yep, have to agree. I'd also hold off on worrying about 4G, since the transition to 3G is going to be a fairly long and slow process. 3G lacks a real 'killer app' aside from high-speed data (which business customers love but Joe Sixpack doesnt need), so the mainstream is prolly going to take their sweet time switching.

Dont get me wrong, though- Id rather be ahead of the 3G wave than behind it.

I work for Cingy, I thought it was suicide to raise the addl lines to 14.99. people are going for price and coverage. When coverage is close to the same (on paper anyways) people look at prices. Peeps look online and see the maps close to the same between cingy and VW... they see price.... VW wins.

Buckock said:
I work for Cingy, I thought it was suicide to raise the addl lines to 14.99. people are going for price and coverage. When coverage is close to the same (on paper anyways) people look at prices. Peeps look online and see the maps close to the same between cingy and VW... they see price.... VW wins.

Youre right. And rumor has it that Verizon's gonna post 1.9 million net adds when they announce results next Tuesday.

If that happens, how much you wanna bet that cingular immediately brings back the 9.99 add a line?

RUFF1415 said:

muchdrama said: I'm giving Verizon anywhere from 1.5-1.7 million adds for the year.

I'm sure you meant adds for the quarter. Just didn't want you to get yourself attacked by people on the defensive, insisting that you did it on purpose. 🙂

My knight in shining armor.

yea you were incorrect. those werent problems as much as other thigns such as road blocks that could get in the way. they bought them becuase it was a good idea too becuase they had a no-competitve clause as well as another suit against sprint. alamosa has the same clause.

by the way.. it wasnt a problem. sorry 🙂

of course it will be easy to gobble them up. they could borrow money or do anything they want. by the way most of the debt that will be on their hands will be off their books becuase of the spin off. (not sure if you knew that)

regardless its a non event.

How many times do you have to be proven wrong before you actually realize that you don't know everything?

I have been right a lot of times. I said that sprint should buy out us wired, and look what happened? They bought them out... by the way, worry about yourself and not me, because I am doing quite fine. 🙂

nextel18 said:
I have been right a lot of times. I said that sprint should buy out us wired, and look what happened? They bought them out... by the way, worry about yourself and not me, because I am doing quite fine. 🙂

I have been right more times than you can even hope to be right. I stated many months ago that the Sprint Nextel merger would not be final in the timeframe you stated because they would face many difficulties. Seems to be that I was right there. But you have yet to give anyone credit for being right, so I probably should expect no credit from you regarding that matter.

yea, I doubt it. the time frame is fine. it’s expected to be oked by the fcc very soon and the shareholders will vote probably in the affirmative tomorrow, which means about that either late aug early September it should close. (it could be earlier though) that was the expected close.


actually, I gave a lot of people credit for being right and/or for having a sound opinion with some base. with you, on the other hand, you just bash people, well me, and I could care less what you say and you have no impact on me.

nextel18 said:
yea, I doubt it. the time frame is fine. it’s expected to be oked by the fcc very soon and the shareholders will vote probably in the affirmative tomorrow, which means about that either late aug early September it should close. (it could be earlier though) that was the expected close.


actually, I gave a lot of people credit for being right and/or for having a sound opinion with some base. with you, on the other hand, you just bash people, well me, and I could care less what you say and you have no impact on me.

You are correct, I am nothing but a big people basher. I am a big forum bully. I have no knowledge and no sound statements. I just bully people around this forum. I don't hel...
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yea, that’s would be your job description on here.

with your second point, you are wrong.

look below for the following articles to prove my point...

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/050712/sprint_nextel.html?.v=4 »

"Merger Between Sprint, Nextel Moves a Step Closer to Federal Approval, Source Says "

"The source, speaking on condition of anonymity because the recommendation has not been made public, said staff members looking into the deal have forwarded their findings to the agency's four commissioners. "

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another one too

http://yahoo.reuters.com/financeQuoteCompanyNewsArti ... »

""Whether it's July or August we certainly expect it to be approved in short order," Forse...
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nextel18 said:
yea, that’s would be your job description on here.

with your second point, you are wrong.

look below for the following articles to prove my point...

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/050712/sprint_nextel.html?.v=4 »

"Merger Between Sprint, Nextel Moves a Step Closer to Federal Approval, Source Says "

"The source, speaking on condition of anonymity because the recommendation has not been made public, said staff members looking into the deal have forwarded their findings to the agency's four commissioners. "

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another one too

http://yahoo.reuters.com/financeQuoteCompanyNewsArti ... »

""Whether it's July or August we certainly expect it to

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it was supposed to be a done deal by now? lol according to who, please state facts and a link to support your findings. thanks.. I know it wasn’t supposed to be closed till now..

you know why? the shareholders haven’t voted yet. sine they are a publicly traded company they cant approve anything yet, till the shareholders vote in the affirmative.

sorry. your wrong again!!!

nextel18 said:
it was supposed to be a done deal by now? lol according to who, please state facts and a link to support your findings. thanks.. I know it wasn’t supposed to be closed till now..

you know why? the shareholders haven’t voted yet. sine they are a publicly traded company they cant approve anything yet, till the shareholders vote in the affirmative.

sorry. your wrong again!!!

Listen, it was YOU that stated again and again that the merger would be completed by now. This was over in the Nextel forum before you decided to invade these forums as well. You gave dates and specifics, all of which were wrong...so forgive us for not ever believing a word you say.

muchdrama said:

nextel18 said:
it was supposed to be a done deal by now? lol according to who, please state facts and a link to support your findings. thanks.. I know it wasn’t supposed to be closed till now..

you know why? the shareholders haven’t voted yet. sine they are a publicly traded company they cant approve anything yet, till the shareholders vote in the affirmative.

sorry. your wrong again!!!

Listen, it was YOU that stated again and again that the merger would be completed by now. This was over in the Nextel forum before you decided to invade these forums as well. You gave dates and specifics, all of which were wrong...so forgive us for not ever believing a word you say.

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Whatever you say. I won't be the one that is consistently looked at as stupid. Good luck to Sprint trying to integrate three different companies into their own then.

Wow, this could get ugly. 😁

See, unfortunately I know what i am talking about, you on the other hand doesn’t. By the way, this will not be a problem what so ever, because if the other affiliates who has the clauses sue sprint, all sprint has to do is just buy them. So yea, it’s a non-event. US wired sued sprint and I said they should buy them out, and what happened? They bought them out. Most of the debt that will be incurred and are on the books now will go off and go onto the company that will be spun off. (Not sure if you knew that though)


http://www.marketwatch.com/news/yhoo/story.asp?sourc ... »

“Sprint may have to mollify its partners”

As as it says, sprint will have to ...
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nextel18 said:
See, unfortunately I know what i am talking about, you on the other hand doesn’t. By the way, this will not be a problem what so ever, because if the other affiliates who has the clauses sue sprint, all sprint has to do is just buy them. /.

Even Rich mentioned Sprint can't just "buy" all the affiliates. Yeesh.

nextel18 said:
See, unfortunately I know what i am talking about, you on the other hand doesn’t.

You're right, I doesn't know what you're talking about because your typing is incomprehensible. 🤣

1. The only way Sprint can get around these lawsuits is to buy the companies that are suing. (I understand that.)
2. Sprint can't just buy their affiliates unless the affiliates want to be bought.
3. Even if Sprint does buy their disgruntled affiliates (Alamosa mostly) they're going to have four different networks to merge. That is by no means a wise decision on Sprint's part. Integrating two networks is a hard enough task, let alone four.

Like I said, this could get ugly for Sprint. 😈...
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1. correct.
2. of course, they can.
3. if the other affiliates all have cdma, which I believe they do, then it will be a very easy task of doing so.

integrating iden will be easier then you think.

it wont get ugly for sprint, sorry.

by the way to your point of number 2 you are wrong. the affiliates are all publicly traded company which the board has fiduciary responsibility for their shareholders. i.e. if they get an offer the board will probably ok it. (like what happened with US wired.) so again, your wrong.

nextel18 said:
1. correct.
2. of course, they can.
3. if the other affiliates all have cdma, which I believe they do, then it will be a very easy task of doing so.

integrating iden will be easier then you think.

it wont get ugly for sprint, sorry.

by the way to your point of number 2 you are wrong. the affiliates are all publicly traded company which the board has fiduciary responsibility for their shareholders. i.e. if they get an offer the board will probably ok it. (like what happened with US wired.) so again, your wrong.

You are full of total BS.

You know very well that the Cingular and AT&T networks are both GSM, the same exact technology, and it is giving them difficulties in the integ...
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RUFF1415 said:

nextel18 said:
1. correct.
2. of course, they can.
3. if the other affiliates all have cdma, which I believe they do, then it will be a very easy task of doing so.

integrating iden will be easier then you think.

it wont get ugly for sprint, sorry.

by the way to your point of number 2 you are wrong. the affiliates are all publicly traded company which the board has fiduciary responsibility for their shareholders. i.e. if they get an offer the board will probably ok it. (like what happened with US wired.) so again, your wrong.

You are full of total BS.

You know very well that the Cingular and AT&T networks are both GSM, the same exact technology, and it is gi

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I am full of BS? lol I feel bad...

we never discussed cingular/att wireless are both gsm technologies, because were are discussing about sprint and its affiliates.

however, let me address that. they are having problems, yes. want to know why? well because they didn’t plan it right and plus their mgmt and CTO are terrible and that’s why its not being a success.

this Nextel/sprint merger would be different, because you have the best mgmt and CTO in the world at the helms so I would trust them. it would be an easy task. if they can get through the consensus plan (rebanding plan) then they can get through the integration of networks especially since they will have contig spectrum in the 800mhz spectrum, which is very easy to convert ...
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I forgot to mention that both Cingular and AT&T's management have experience in merging companies (Bellsouth and SBC for Cingular) and they are still having difficulties. Don't try to tell me that it was poorly planned, because they've been down this road before.

Experience is something neither Nextel or Sprint have when it comes to merging three (or possibly four) different companies. It will not go down smoothly, I guarantee you that.

Good luck? Good luck for what?

have you looked at Barry West's resume'? its quite good. he also has a lot of experience in the wireless industry.

anyway, since Nextel and sprint have a very good managmt core as well as with a great CTO the merger integration would be a nice transition. (I am sorry if you feel otherwise but that’s your problem)

good luck with your predictions. Lol

Sorry, unlike you I do not salivate at the sight of another's resume, and I do not idolize someone who has such moronic supporters as Barry West.

aww. that is too bad that you dont feel that way, but i do. 🙂

you will be wrong. 🙂

nextel18 said:
aww. that is too bad that you dont feel that way, but i do. 🙂

you will be wrong. 🙂

Wasn't CTIA's man of the Year Stan Sigman? Who is Barry West again?!?!? Oh yeah, a guy with a tiny company that just got bought.

Al_Swearengen said:

nextel18 said:
aww. that is too bad that you dont feel that way, but i do. 🙂

you will be wrong. 🙂

Wasn't CTIA's man of the Year Stan Sigman? Who is Barry West again?!?!? Oh yeah, a guy with a tiny company that just got bought.

You forgot the fact that he is a guy that all of the direct connect addicts worship. He blinds them from having any rational or logical thoughts.

SForsyth01 said:
You forgot the fact that he is a guy that all of the direct connect addicts worship. He blinds them from having any rational or logical thoughts.

Yeah, if there isn't a *chirp*, then it's not real. 🤣

I thought AT&T was TDMA. Is there a difference between that and GSM?

But if integrating iDEN will be that easy why is the network going to be around till at least 2010? I thought it was supposed to start migrating earlier? I honestly think they are finding out there is no comparison to iDEN. Maybe it was harder than they thought to create a CDMA-based technology that can be as fast as iDENs?

P.S. Do any Verizon or Sprint (ie: Ready Link) use a dual number config... You know, physical phone number (xxx-xxx-xxxx) and dc number (xx*xxxxx*xxx)???

I think, al though i am not 100 percent positive on this, but I think that sprint and verizon uses just one number and that’s your phone number.

Verizon uses an MDN and an MIN. They are usually the same, but if you port in a number they will be different.

dca said:
But if integrating iDEN will be that easy why is the network going to be around till at least 2010? I thought it was supposed to start migrating earlier? I honestly think they are finding out there is no comparison to iDEN. Maybe it was harder than they thought to create a CDMA-based technology that can be as fast as iDENs?

This might very well be true in regards to Qchat. Maybe Sprint and Nextel are looking for some time to perfect the CDMA based PTT solution...heaven knows Readylink and Verizon's PTT aren't exactly barn burners (but definitely serviceable).

good question. what happens is that Nextel will migrate/integrate some of its network/spectrum/towers during the 2007-2009 time frame to ease capacity and to add it onto sprint's excellent network/spectrum/licenses strength. they will try to entice the subscribers to move over with qchat.

now, Nextel has mentioned that they will want their iden network to be for push to talk centric users such as pubic safety and smr providers. I am not sure if that’s a smart thing to do because no one knows if Nextel can still retain the ROI that they have been getting.

they will be running iden till 2010 though.

perhaps. (to answer that question)

Would that include attempting to convince (not entice) current subscribers off iDEN to handle whats left of the quasi-important clients (ie: cops, gov, librarians?)???

the people who would stay on the iden network would be people who need the push to talk product and uses it a lot. (i.e. push to talk centric users and yes that would include; cops, gov, etc..)

RUFF1415 said:

nextel18 said:
See, unfortunately I know what i am talking about, you on the other hand doesn’t.

You're right, I doesn't know what you're talking about because your typing is incomprehensible. 🤣

You know...I wasn't going to touch that, but nice job anyway. LOL.

nextel18 said:
yea you were incorrect. those werent problems as much as other thigns such as road blocks that could get in the way. they bought them becuase it was a good idea too becuase they had a no-competitve clause as well as another suit against sprint. alamosa has the same clause.

by the way.. it wasnt a problem. sorry 🙂

of course it will be easy to gobble them up. they could borrow money or do anything they want. by the way most of the debt that will be on their hands will be off their books becuase of the spin off. (not sure if you knew that)

regardless its a non event.

Non event?
Everytime you are wrong, you try to play it off as a 'non event'. There are so many 'non events' around ...
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Yes, a non-event. Was it a big deal? Nope. why? because sprint bought them. thus, it’s a non-event.

by the way, I am not wrong, I was correct with what I thought sprint should do. that is what they will probably do in the future with their affiliates and the same goes with Nextel.

Therefore, I am right.

nextel18 said:
Yes, a non-event. Was it a big deal? Nope. why? because sprint bought them. thus, it’s a non-event.

by the way, I am not wrong, I was correct with what I thought sprint should do. that is what they will probably do in the future with their affiliates and the same goes with Nextel.

Therefore, I am right.

🙄

🙄 Welcome to Bizarro World.

Well, I guess you were right about US Wired. Of course, Sprint TOLD EVERYONE WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO TRY TO DO long before you said it. 😳

So, go ahead and take credit for being correct- after the fact. Good job.

And the 'non-events' I was talking about are the numerous time you totally ignore what you have said and done and pretend how you were correct about something when in fact you were exactly wrong.
How's that Flarion network coming along? Woops... 🤭 Nextel decided against that.
How's the Sprint merger going? Woops again.... 🤭 Sprint has to deal with several opposing affiliates. Not so smooth...
What about that 'new technology' that you were talking about? "IPWIRELESS"??? Woop...
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how boring.

1. its a non event.
2. a lot of companies are doing flarion, by the way, Nextel didn’t want to because they were doing ev-do with sprint and they didn’t feel like the qchat would work well on flarion. however, they did get good results with a 90 percent plus customer approval rating.
3. the merger is going smoothly and perfectly and will be closed shortly.
4. I said Nextel was tested ipwireless, which obviously uses the umts technology.
5. yea, ip wireless when they are using 1.5mhz is faster then the 1.25mhz flarion offers. look at the facts, but you would be right with the 10mhz and 5mhz if you compare the speeds, however, both of them are quite fast. flarion has problems with on the edge of the cell phone tower, whil...
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nextel18 said:

2. a lot of companies are doing flarion, by the way,

Could you name the numerous companies that are "doing" Flarion, please? Thanks.

nextel18 said:
how boring.

1. its a non event.
2. a lot of companies are doing flarion, by the way, Nextel didn’t want to because they were doing ev-do with sprint and they didn’t feel like the qchat would work well on flarion. however, they did get good results with a 90 percent plus customer approval rating.
3. the merger is going smoothly and perfectly and will be closed shortly.
4. I said Nextel was tested ipwireless, which obviously uses the umts technology.
5. yea, ip wireless when they are using 1.5mhz is faster then the 1.25mhz flarion offers. look at the facts, but you would be right with the 10mhz and 5mhz if you compare the speeds, however, both of them are quite fast. flarion has problems with on the

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its ok.. its not my problem, its yours.

i know what i am talking about. 🙂

if what i say is worthless, stop posting to me.

i never said that nextel scrapped it becuase it didnt perform well. it seems like you and a few others have a problem with reading and you guys have selective reasoning.

by the way i will prove you wrong about flarion how "no one uses flarion".

and this will be the last post to you becuase i dont want to humiliate you anymore.

"Flarion Inks OFDM Deal in Japan

Flarion to provide network equipment in Croatia
""

"Finland chooses OFDM for a wireless broadband network"

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so yea...

Wow, you can make headlines off of the top of your head! 😲

How about this one:

"Nextel18 Proven to Be a Stupid Git"

Where are the links?

nextel18 said:
its ok.. its not my problem, its yours.

i know what i am talking about. 🙂

if what i say is worthless, stop posting to me.

i never said that nextel scrapped it becuase it didnt perform well. it seems like you and a few others have a problem with reading and you guys have selective reasoning.

by the way i will prove you wrong about flarion how "no one uses flarion".

and this will be the last post to you becuase i dont want to humiliate you anymore.

"Flarion Inks OFDM Deal in Japan

Flarion to provide network equipment in Croatia
""

"Finland chooses OFDM for a wireless broadband network"

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so yea...

🙄

I know it's ok. The only problem is you.

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Al_Swearengen said:
🙄 Welcome to Bizarro World.

Well, I guess you were right about US Wired. Of course, Sprint TOLD EVERYONE WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO TRY TO DO long before you said it. 😳

So, go ahead and take credit for being correct- after the fact. Good job.

And the 'non-events' I was talking about are the numerous time you totally ignore what you have said and done and pretend how you were correct about something when in fact you were exactly wrong.
How's that Flarion network coming along? Woops... 🤭 Nextel decided against that.
How's the Sprint merger going? Woops again.... 🤭 Sprint has to deal with several opposing affiliates. Not so smooth...
What about that 'new technology' that you

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I know, and I read that news but again, it’s a non-event. Worst comes to worst they will buy those affiliates out and that’s it. Nextel is facing the same problem. Again, for the 500th time, it’s a non-event.

nextel18 said:
I know, and I read that news but again, it’s a non-event. Worst comes to worst they will buy those affiliates out and that’s it. Nextel is facing the same problem. Again, for the 500th time, it’s a non-event.

You should really stop dismissing people's opinions as "non-events". Perhaps they'd deal with you a little more amicably?

muchdrama said:

nextel18 said:
I know, and I read that news but again, it’s a non-event. Worst comes to worst they will buy those affiliates out and that’s it. Nextel is facing the same problem. Again, for the 500th time, it’s a non-event.

You should really stop dismissing people's opinions as "non-events". Perhaps they'd deal with you a little more amicably?

But then again....look who we are dealing with. Our mere existance is a non event to him. 😈

In nextel18's defense. (Not talking about that whole non-event thing, thats just stupid). The FCC could still and probably will approve this merger by the end of this month... I don't think they are concerned with non-compete issues in contracts, only competition at this point... They'll approve it and let Sprint fend for themselves, if they can't afford to buy 'em and make a 'non-event', they'll go to court...

dca said:
In nextel18's defense. (Not talking about that whole non-event thing, thats just stupid). The FCC could still and probably will approve this merger by the end of this month... I don't think they are concerned with non-compete issues in contracts, only competition at this point... They'll approve it and let Sprint fend for themselves, if they can't afford to buy 'em and make a 'non-event', they'll go to court...

But if the FCC does approve the merger with existing non-compete agreements still in place wouldn't that place the FCC itself in violation of anti-trust laws?

SForsyth01 said:

nextel18 said:
i think that verizon and cingular will report very strong numbers with arpu and data arpu rising a little bit. i belive sprint will report a very good wholesale business while their core does ok. nextel, i belive that they will do quite well and exceed expectations..

by the way ruff said that nextel/sprint merger is facing difficult with the doj, thats in correct. but regardless, i think the combined sprint/nextel will outpace for this quarter, like they did in the first quarter, with arpu and combined subs.

good luck, BTJ.

Read the news on the main page of phonescoop.com. It will tell you that sprint is violating many non-compete agreements due

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Believe it VZWVan. We were all shocked when he mentioned it in our meeting. Churn drops to 1.25% as well. This was our best quarter ever as VZW.

coruptor25 said:
Believe it VZWVan. We were all shocked when he mentioned it in our meeting. Churn drops to 1.25% as well. This was our best quarter ever as VZW.

Holy shiznits!! 1.9 million new subs AND 1.25% churn?!? 😲

Verizon is flat OWNING everyone then. Even I'm having a hard time believing it, and I dont get suprised easily. 😳

but then again cing reps probably dont care cause their company stinks and treats them like crap...So shellshocked? i dont care if u beat us by 4 million.........

cingsales9090 said:
but then again cing reps probably dont care cause their company stinks and treats them like crap...So shellshocked? i dont care if u beat us by 4 million.........

Sorry to hear that its that bad over there. Ive worked for some real crapholes myself.

Sounds like you should get out while you still can. Lifes too short.