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EFT/administration charge effective 10-01-05

poloco65

Sep 13, 2005, 5:46 PM
just got off the phone with CS and they said you can opt out of your contract with no eft!!and keep the phone to sell on ebay or do whatever with,plus she said there is no time limit to come back meaning you can get a new phone at discount,now my question is,why would vzw do this when all they got to do is waive the .40 charge saving them money,weird....what am i missing here LOL
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Anxiovert

Sep 13, 2005, 5:56 PM
poloco65 said:
just got off the phone with CS and they said you can opt out of your contract with no eft!!and keep the phone to sell on ebay or do whatever with,plus she said there is no time limit to come back meaning you can get a new phone at discount,now my question is,why would vzw do this when all they got to do is waive the .40 charge saving them money,weird....what am i missing here LOL


I think that charge is imposed on them. Could you imagine waiving those $.40 every month? Let's see: VZW has what? 47.5 million custs? Let's see. 47.5 x $.40 = $19 million a month. If I'm doing my numbers right. I don't think they'll want to lose 19 million dollars a month
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freedomrep

Sep 13, 2005, 6:40 PM
Better be careful selling that phone on Ebay. Alot of agents have secondary contracts you sign stating that you will keep service for 181 days otherwise they get to charge you $250. So before you go selling that phone make sure your not gonna get wacked
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freedomrep

Sep 13, 2005, 7:14 PM
I also talked to my Vzw rep. and yes if you wanna leave Vzw you can!No ETF! No you cannot come back 2morow and get a new act. pricing on equipment! yes, you can port your # anywhere and NO we will not waive the fee to keep you!
Your acct will remain in standby for 6 mo's so you can come back. Also, just so everyone understands this fee has been being covered by Vzw for years. The US govt charges larger co. a tax that is used to pay for things like internet in schools and libraries things like that. So this is where the .40 is going to it's not going to our CEO or anything like that. Other companies have been charging this fee to their customers for years so I guess it's about time we caught I for one will not be canceling so that I can cont...
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Vox Dei

Sep 13, 2005, 7:25 PM
Ya this is a pretty standard fee with most companys. Cingular has a $1.25 for this. It's pretty gutzy for Verizon to add it to EVERYONE's account even those with contract and then saying they can cancel if they want. When AWS brought this is a couple years ago they waived it untill the end of the contracts for anyone that was under contract if they complained about it.
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aloha

Sep 13, 2005, 7:27 PM
freedomrep said:
I also talked to my Vzw rep. and yes if you wanna leave Vzw you can!No ETF! No you cannot come back 2morow and get a new act. pricing on equipment! yes, you can port your # anywhere and NO we will not waive the fee to keep you!
Your acct will remain in standby for 6 mo's so you can come back. Also, just so everyone understands this fee has been being covered by Vzw for years. The US govt charges larger co. a tax that is used to pay for things like internet in schools and libraries things like that. So this is where the .40 is going to it's not going to our CEO or anything like that. Other companies have been charging this fee to their customers for years so I guess it's about time we caught I for one wil
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freedomrep

Sep 13, 2005, 7:29 PM
Thank you for clearing that up I was just explaining it the way it was explained to me!
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Vox Dei

Sep 13, 2005, 7:32 PM
No this is not a tax to the subsciber. It is an admistration fee that Verizon uses to pay the taxes it is charged by the government. Alot of carriers are adding a simular fee (or have added) to cover there costs.
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freedomrep

Sep 13, 2005, 7:38 PM
Ok guys my bad my explantion was a little off thank you for helping me clear it Vox Dei. Aloha, nobody was trying to pass anything off at Vzw we don't have to lie or add hidden charges we simply are the best and when your the best there is no reason to "try and pass anything off"
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aloha

Sep 14, 2005, 1:01 PM
Vox Dei said:
No this is not a tax to the subsciber. It is an admistration fee that Verizon uses to pay the taxes it is charged by the government. Alot of carriers are adding a simular fee (or have added) to cover there costs.



Did you read the post? VZW passes along all taxes and they are listed as such. This is NOT a fee to cover taxes charged by the Gov. It is a fee to cover VZW cost of doing business, which one would think that they would price their plans accordingly to cover.

However in the numbers game it looks better to say that you are getting a package for 59.99 then have it show up as 74.38 on the bill than telling the customer the exact cost up front. (example not an actual price pl...
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Vox Dei

Sep 14, 2005, 5:24 PM
Never once said anything about being mandated by the government. Infact i said just the oposite. I said it is a fee CHARGED BY VERIZON (not charged by the government never once said this fee was charge or mandated or in any way required by any government agency). One of the uses of the money this fee is collected for is to pay for certian fees (i will now quote your post)
(i) fees and assessments on network facilities and services,
such as licensing fees for towers and network which are charged by the FCC. My info is not wrong. This is not fees charged to user these are fees charged to carriers.
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aloha

Sep 14, 2005, 5:36 PM
Vox Dei said:
Never once said anything about being mandated by the government. Infact i said just the oposite. I said it is a fee CHARGED BY VERIZON (not charged by the government never once said this fee was charge or mandated or in any way required by any government agency). One of the uses of the money this fee is collected for is to pay for certian fees (i will now quote your post)
(i) fees and assessments on network facilities and services,
such as licensing fees for towers and network which are charged by the FCC. My info is not wrong. This is not fees charged to user these are fees charged to carriers.



I have covered this in other post and don't feel like doing it again.

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freedomrep

Sep 14, 2005, 1:06 PM
Basically, all other carriers have these type of fees Vzw be the cheapest! Damn, we said we would let you out the contract! What more explanation do you need. Vzw is charging an additional .40 to your bill if you don't like it you can leave! Simple! It doesn't really matter why we are charging it! We just are!
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aloha

Sep 14, 2005, 1:41 PM
freedomrep said:
Basically, all other carriers have these type of fees Vzw be the cheapest! Damn, we said we would let you out the contract! What more explanation do you need. Vzw is charging an additional .40 to your bill if you don't like it you can leave! Simple! It doesn't really matter why we are charging it! We just are!


I never said it matters why the charge is there or that others or I should cancel. I never said that I need an explanation either. I simply want people to know what the charge is instead of them being given incorrect information from people like you about what the charge is. There is no reason to be so rude or defensive, just be honest and accurate.
I was addressing the issue for ...
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freedomrep

Sep 14, 2005, 3:52 PM
Ok!I apologized in a past post for my inaccurate info. Yet you continued to tell me I was wrong. I have talked to supervisors and other reps. and I wasn't wrong to begin with! This is a surcharge being added by Vzw due to the increase upon them in taxes for the government to aid things like internet in schools, libraries, rec centers. A tax is applied to all large corp. to aid this type of stuff!!! Vzw has been absorbing this tax for years and not passing it onto consumers. They are now going to pass this cost onto the consumers. This is the reason for the surcharge.That information is correct and accurate according to an "all hands" meeting we recently had. So once again please double check your info. before you begin telling other people t...
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aloha

Sep 14, 2005, 4:15 PM
Someone is wrong, or misleading workers/customers either intentionally or through ignorance.
All charges assessed on or passed to VZW by the Gov are passed to the customer and are listed as such on the bill as: "Taxes, governmental surcharges and fees 4.42"

This charge has nothing to do with the Gov according to the statement VZW put on the bills.

Verizon Wireless will begin assessing an "Administrative Charge" of $0.40 per line per month on October 1, 2005. This charge will help defray certain costs we incur, currently including: (i) fees and assessments on network facilities and services, (ii) charges we, or our agents, pay local telephone companies for delivering calls from our customers to their customers, and (iii) certain costs...
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freedomrep

Sep 14, 2005, 4:40 PM
"Verizon Wireless will begin assessing an "Administrative Charge" of $0.40 per line per month on October 1, 2005. This charge will help defray certain costs we incur, currently including: (i) fees and assessments on network facilities and services,"

So I guess there is no way the fees and assessments could have come from the govt. Nowhere in there does it not say the govt is doing excatly what I stated. I've checked with everyone I can and been told the same thing by all of them!people that would know the right answer!!!so unless I start calling Bedminsiter I have went as far up as I can. The govt places taxes on large corp. for things like internet in schools etc. Vzw has been absorbing this charge for years they are now passing it on!
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aloha

Sep 14, 2005, 4:59 PM
VZW hasn't been absorbing anything for years it's on your bill now and since you keep quoting Schools and Libraries I believe you are talking about the Universal service fund.

There are four components to the Federal Universal Service Fund. They are:
Low-Income. This program provides telephone service discounts to consumers with qualifying low-incomes.
High-Cost. This program provides financial support to companies that provide telecommunications services in areas of America where the cost of providing service is high.
Schools and Libraries. This program helps to ensure that the nation's classrooms and libraries receive access to the vast array of educational resources that are accessible through the telecommunications network.
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freedomrep

Sep 14, 2005, 5:09 PM
I am not even trying to read all of that! I'm done with this discussion. You can be right I give up
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aloha

Sep 14, 2005, 5:11 PM
freedomrep said:
I am not even trying to read all of that! I'm done with this discussion. You can be right I give up
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freedomrep

Sep 14, 2005, 7:13 PM
Listen it's not about a desire to learn. I want to know all I can about all wireless carriers, not just Vzw. But I presented this question to higher ups who would know the right answer. You are telling me they are wrong and you are right. So unless you are secretly the CEO or something what you are trying to "teach" in my eyes is the wrong information! Now if you come back with something more official than the uninformative flyer they mailed to customers (which I also received) I may be willing to pay more attention! In the meantime thank you for your time and efforts that are appreciated
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