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44 million strong??????

Albie05

Sep 27, 2005, 10:34 PM
Hey it would be great to get a VErizon rep answer this question but everyone could make a guesstimate if they want..... last time i checked, Verizon had 43+ million costumers..... but that was a couple months ago.... does anyone have anew estimate? all i know is that were right behind Cingular (who claims they have 50 million but in reality have like 47-48 million).
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wfine81

Sep 27, 2005, 10:41 PM
After 2nd quarter it was 47.4 million


July 26,2005
"The revenue from Verizon Wireless rose 14.6 percent to $7.8 billion, as the nation's second-largest mobile phone business increased its subscriber base by 1.9 million customers to finish the quarter with 47.4 million."
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RUFF1415

Sep 27, 2005, 11:02 PM
Cingular claims to have 50 million but in reality have 47 million? That's the most ridiculous statement I have ever heard.

Why would Cingular ever need to lie about how many customers they have?

Fact. Cingular has (more than) 51.6 million customers. Expect that number to rise to the 52.6 million to 53 million range in a few weeks after Q3 results.

Fact. Verizon has (more than) 47.6 million customers. Expect that number to rise to the 49 million to 49.6 million range in a few weeks after Q3 results.

Where do you get off saying Cingular only has 47 million customers? That is an unbelievably bogus statement.
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Albie05

Sep 28, 2005, 1:46 AM
Like i said, my reasearch was based on facts from a few months ago.... Spring to be exact.
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RUFF1415

Sep 28, 2005, 2:21 PM
You said:

all i know is that were right behind Cingular (who claims they have 50 million but in reality have like 47-48 million).

That is not based on fact. That is a ridiculous fabrication on your part. 😉
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gunny

Sep 28, 2005, 2:27 PM
RUFF1415 said:
You said:

all i know is that were right behind Cingular (who claims they have 50 million but in reality have like 47-48 million).

That is not based on fact. That is a ridiculous fabrication on your part. 😉


RUFF you are all messed up, Verizon has 54.7 million and I can prove it.
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RUFF1415

Sep 28, 2005, 2:28 PM
Go right ahead. 😁
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gunny

Sep 28, 2005, 2:46 PM
RUFF1415 said:
Go right ahead. 😁



nah, I don't feel like it, ask me some other time.

Anyways we all know Verizon will be back on top number wise much Sooner then later. Verizon will continue to beat cingular each quarter until the job is done.

Even though your heart beats Cingular Ruff, I know, that you know, Verizon is king.

Honestly Ruff I'm just playing. I ditched my verizon phone for a black RAZR like two months back, damn thing wouldn't work where I needed it. Not enough bars yet in enough places for me. Now I'm still being punished and waiting for the Verizon RAZR. The numbers are interesting to look at, but I really don't care. Have a good one man!
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RUFF1415

Sep 28, 2005, 3:10 PM
I really don't see the point in your post. My heart beats Cingular? Not really.

Did you see my projected numbers for when Q3 comes out in that post? Obviously I believe that Verizon is doing a better job than Cingular.

I only responded to the original poster because they are clearly full of you know what, and needed to be set straight.
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BetterThanJake

Sep 28, 2005, 3:11 PM
I think gunny was joking. Mostly.

And yes, the original poster does seem to making some odd claims.
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gunny

Sep 28, 2005, 3:16 PM
BetterThanJake said:
I think gunny was joking. Mostly.

And yes, the original poster does seem to making some odd claims.


yes I am

I better go lay down now, nap time 🙂
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pete1660

Sep 28, 2005, 3:35 PM
Gunny for President! hahahahahhahahahhahahahahahahahahaha

Nothing but love baby
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Al_Swearengen

Sep 28, 2005, 9:54 PM
gunny said:
RUFF1415 said:
Go right ahead. 😁



nah, I don't feel like it, ask me some other time.

Anyways we all know Verizon will be back on top number wise much Sooner then later. Verizon will continue to beat cingular each quarter until the job is done.

Even though your heart beats Cingular Ruff, I know, that you know, Verizon is king.

Honestly Ruff I'm just playing. I ditched my verizon phone for a black RAZR like two months back, damn thing wouldn't work where I needed it. Not enough bars yet in enough places for me. Now I'm still being punished and waiting for the Verizon RAZR. The numbers are interesting to look at, but I really don't care. Have a good one man!
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BetterThanJake

Sep 28, 2005, 10:32 PM
Al_Swearengen said:
Damn, gunny, did nextel18 hack your account? I usually expect posts like this from him, not people like you. You going through a bad spot or something?

How many times must it be posted that gunny was joking before anyone gets it? 🙄

He even admitted that he was in another post.
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nextel18

Sep 28, 2005, 10:39 PM
stupid statement, but that is your forte. 🙂
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gunny

Sep 28, 2005, 10:48 PM
nextel18 said:
stupid statement, but that is your forte. 🙂


It doesn't matter who your statement is too, it's un-called for. Why do you bust into threads and just ruin it with your insults. I like to play around as much as the next guy, but I don't get off on trying to make anyone feel bad. Go away man
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nextel18

Sep 30, 2005, 9:15 AM
he has been bashing me forever so i just said that was a stupid statement... your a hypocrite my friend you bash people too especially me.....
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Al_Swearengen

Sep 30, 2005, 11:58 AM
nextel18 said:
stupid statement, but that is your forte. 🙂


Coming from the most mentally handicapped person on this forum, that's pretty funny.
Oh, wait. I must be off of the coveted ignore list now.
How priveledged I am. 🙄
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nextel18

Sep 30, 2005, 12:01 PM
lol..... your insults mean nothing lol... especially since you always insult people like BetterThanJake . lol..

you must have some problems socially. in addition, you have no sound opinions so you just bash.. like i said.. its your forte...
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gunny

Sep 28, 2005, 10:42 PM
Al_Swearengen said:
gunny said:
RUFF1415 said:
Go right ahead. 😁



!




Damn, gunny, did nextel18 hack your account? I usually expect posts like this from him, not people like you. You going through a bad spot or something?


I'm out of my mind, but feel free to leave a message 😕
I've been fighting the good fight here,
😈

All be ok, I promise

Thanks
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pete1660

Sep 28, 2005, 10:16 AM
First and foremost, you have watched Bill and Ted's Adventures entirely too much (jk) and second, it's hard to get a read as too how many cingular customers there are given such a high rate of churn. Oh yeah, there are no facts, even if you write "Fact." in front of it. All these are estimates based on figures both from the companies and other financial institutions. And never discount the fact that any company would probably over-estimate their numbers (not outright lie, they go to jail for that....ask Enron) inorder to see an increase in stock performance.
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RUFF1415

Sep 28, 2005, 2:27 PM
High rate of churn? 2.2% isn't the worst of the industry. Plus, understand that churn is calculated in each quarters net adds, so the customer base numbers are pretty accurate. Plus, they round for the reason of calculation error. They aren't going to be overestimating their customer base by more than 2 million like the original poster was indicating. Cingular has over 50 million customers. That is fact.
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pete1660

Sep 28, 2005, 3:32 PM
2.2% aint that great either, but hey, who's really counting (Verizon at 1.2% last I checked). Aside from that FACT, I think I've made my point very clear, I don't care how many customers you have, I do care how many you lose per quarter. I'm not trying to be aggresive here, so I'll leave you with your comfortable "over 50 million customers" and watch VZW overpass Cingular in the following quarters.
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RUFF1415

Sep 28, 2005, 3:39 PM
Why is it necessary to turn a simple statement into something it's not?

1. I agree that Verizon is doing much better than Cingular as a whole. When did I ever say that Cingular was doing so great?
2. My comfortable "over 50 million customers"? It's hardly mine.

The original poster is clearly full of you know what, my response was nothing more than a call on their misinformtaion. You need to think about things before you post them.
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yeahright

Sep 28, 2005, 4:06 PM
hey Ruff1415, you seem to be in the know so I was wondering if you knew how many customers Sprint/Nextel Have since merging. I was just curious to how they are stacking up against vzw and cingular.
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nextel18

Sep 28, 2005, 4:19 PM
total subscribers? they have 45 million.
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RUFF1415

Sep 28, 2005, 4:21 PM
I'm not as quite up on Sprint-Nextel as I am Verizon or Cingular because I really have no appreciation for their service, but the last time I checked I believe that they had around 44.7 million.

That should be up to around 45.5 million after the Q3 results.
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yeahright

Sep 28, 2005, 4:58 PM
Wow, pretty close. thanks for the info.
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nextel18

Sep 28, 2005, 10:39 PM
they have 45 million subscribers. 🙂
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Digital Pimp

Sep 28, 2005, 11:17 AM
RUFF1415 said:
Cingular claims to have 50 million but in reality have 47 million? That's the most ridiculous statement I have ever heard.

Why would Cingular ever need to lie about how many customers they have?

Fact. Cingular has (more than) 51.6 million customers. Expect that number to rise to the 52.6 million to 53 million range in a few weeks after Q3 results.

Fact. Verizon has (more than) 47.6 million customers. Expect that number to rise to the 49 million to 49.6 million range in a few weeks after Q3 results.

Where do you get off saying Cingular only has 47 million customers? That is an unbelievably bogus statement.


Well they got kicked out of the Better Business Bureau for poor custo...
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jinx7676

Sep 28, 2005, 1:31 PM
Digital Pimp said:
Well they got kicked out of the Better Business Bureau for poor customer service...so I wouldn't be surprised if they added a couple million to the customer base to make them look better. 😳


a. the BBB thing was just in one market
b. all reported issues were resolved and an appeal has been submitted, worst case, they'll be back in it in 11 months
c. i assume falsely reporting adds most likely couldn't happen since there is probobly some disclosure where a government agency could audit this.
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pete1660

Sep 28, 2005, 2:00 PM
jinx - I agree with your first and third comment, but I don't think the "all reported issues were resolved" is entirely true. First, if they had been resolved, then why the big huff from the BBB? 200 complaints and 20 completely ignored complaints and somehow now that they resolved those issues it's no big deal. Come on, if the airline industry had 200 planes fall out of the sky and suddenly decided to fix its problems you'd still be pissed off. Blowing off customer problems should be a major issue for Cingular, whether it be in one area or all areas covered by their company.
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nextel18

Sep 28, 2005, 4:17 PM
why would you say that? you think the carriers would lie about their total subscribers?
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pete1660

Sep 28, 2005, 5:15 PM
Cingular claims to have 50 million but in reality have 47 million? That's the most ridiculous statement I have ever heard.

Why would Cingular ever need to lie about how many customers they have?

Fact. Cingular has (more than) 51.6 million customers. Expect that number to rise to the 52.6 million to 53 million range in a few weeks after Q3 results.

Fact. Verizon has (more than) 47.6 million customers. Expect that number to rise to the 49 million to 49.6 million range in a few weeks after Q3 results.

Where do you get off saying Cingular only has 47 million customers? That is an unbelievably bogus statement.
That is not based on fact. That is a ridiculous fabrication on your part.



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Albie05

Sep 28, 2005, 6:10 PM
Foreel though Ruff, you act like that one smart ass that everyone had in one of their high school classes that juss feel the need to correct people and make them feel retarded about it. seriously, "you be doing to much" as we kids say nowadays, its just a forum. Though you may be correcting me from what i said about cingular, but you dont got be be a smartass about it. Oh and on a post you said u wanted to "SET ME STRAIGHT" umm good luck with that...... cuz im G-A-Y LOL!!!!! 🤣
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gunny

Sep 28, 2005, 7:05 PM
Albie05 said:
im G-A-Y 🤣



YOUR NOT RUFF
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RUFF1415

Sep 28, 2005, 7:36 PM
Funny, Gunny.
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RUFF1415

Sep 28, 2005, 7:36 PM
I'm not trying to be a smartass. For the 19 months that I have been on this forum, you're the first I've come across to think it wrong for somebody to correct somebody else on their misinformation. If that's what you really think should be passed around on these boards, then you haven't been around too much, have you?

There are people on these boards called trolls, that spend their entire day making up false information that will glorify a certain company. It's misleading and unnecessary. The mininformation you gave seemed pretty deliberate to me. Next time post something you're sure of. 😉
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nextel18

Sep 28, 2005, 10:37 PM
hahahhaha lol.
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RUFF1415

Sep 28, 2005, 7:30 PM
You've been on these forums for what? Eight days now?

I've been on these forums for quite a bit longer (try 19 months) and have yet to come across somebody who thinks it wrong for somebody to correct misinformation. Being a newb, you have a lot to learn I guess.

See how many people will disagree with you on this matter. 😉
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nextel18

Sep 28, 2005, 10:37 PM
good points. 🙂
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RUFF1415

Sep 28, 2005, 10:57 PM
pete1660 said:
facts on a message board are about as real as unicorns and ghosts.


Now see, that's where you're wrong. Facts on a message board are about as rare as unicorns and ghosts (i.e. non existant) because half of the people on these boards make up what they post, and the other half doesn't care to correct it.

These forums are meant to be informative, not misleading. If you like to read misinformation and let it slide as if nothing was wrong, good for you. Next time, just don't post a thread bearing my name telling me that I was wrong for putting the truth out there. Facts are real, and can be proven, even on these forums.

You do realize that the industry's customers vi...
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BetterThanJake

Sep 28, 2005, 11:39 PM
I'd have to agree with Ruff here... there are some known facts out there, and it does a disservice to ignore them and throw your hands up and say, "Meh, whatever."

Because once you do that, you're at the mercy of whoever has the loudest and most convincing argument... whether or not they're full of 100% unadulterated sheeite

(ooh, left myself open for cheapshot with that last sentence... wonder who'd want to take advantage of that... 🙂 )
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SForsyth01

Sep 29, 2005, 8:06 AM
BetterThanJake said:
whether or not they're full of 100% unadulterated sheeite


As opposed to adulterated sheeite? Hmmmm....wonder which one I would like? 🤣 🤣 🤣

Sorry, Jake, I had to.
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BetterThanJake

Sep 29, 2005, 1:19 PM
No prob. 🙂

Btw... 'adulterated sheeite'? Ewwww. 😳
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pete1660

Sep 30, 2005, 3:11 PM
Next time, just don't post a thread bearing my name telling me that I was wrong for putting the truth out there.

When did I say you were wrong, only that facts on this board (once again, this is getting redundant) can't be assumed correct, whether or not they come from you or any other poster here on this thread. Every time you state that you're posting only facts, you once again assume that only you have the correct answers and everyone else who disagrees with you is full of stuff I imagine you play with on a daily basis (ok, that was kinda mean, but I'm not taking it back) Oh yeah, your comment "Now see, that's where you're wrong. Facts on a message board are about as rare as unicorns and ghosts" Rare would mean that unicorns and gh...
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gunny

Sep 30, 2005, 3:29 PM
pete1660 said:
Next time, just don't post a thread bearing my name telling me that I was wrong for putting the truth out there.

When did I say you were wrong, only that facts on this board (once again, this is getting redundant) can't be assumed correct, whether or not they come from you or any other poster here on this thread. Every time you state that you're posting only facts, you once again assume that only you have the correct answers and everyone else who disagrees with you is full of stuff I imagine you play with on a daily basis (ok, that was kinda mean, but I'm not taking it back) Oh yeah, your comment "Now see, that's where you're wrong. Facts on a message board are about as rare as unicorns and ghosts" R
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pete1660

Sep 30, 2005, 4:27 PM
Too funny. Thanks for the good laugh gunny, I needed that. Have a good Friday, unfortunately for some of us, we have to work the weekends as well. (single tear drops from my eye)
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gunny

Sep 30, 2005, 4:44 PM
pete1660 said:
Too funny. Thanks for the good laugh gunny, I needed that. Have a good Friday, unfortunately for some of us, we have to work the weekends as well. (single tear drops from my eye)


🙂 dont let me work you to hard, Take it easy
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