i know it is true. lo. that is what i said...

another thing verizon needs to restrict.. shame on them..

so then I am better off going with sprint? The let you tehter w/o an aircard... I guess I will keep my Nextel account and just open a sprint account...sucks, I hate their CSR.

ccanady..

i would becuase verizon puts restrictions on you.. even if sprint's csr is bad, which it is, they dont put restrctions on you.

yeah they have a pretty nice package. I think this is right correct me if I am wrong but I heard its 25 for pretty much everything which is like sirius radio, a bunch of tv stations, unlimited EVDO, and 40 mb to tether with and the overage will cap at 70 dollars.

according to the website, there are 4 selections for the power vision.

1. Sprint Phone as Modem Pack $25
2. Sprint Power VisionSM Access Pack $15
3. Sprint Power VisionSM Plus Pack $20
4. Sprint Power VisionSM Ultimate Pack $25


(the dollars are monthly)

i am not to familiar with it. (i havnt read any of my tutorial on it, becuase frankly customers havnt asked yet)

i have the websites and i will show them to you..

http://www.sprintpcs.com/common/popups/pop-PowerVisi ... »

http://www.sprintpcs.com/common/popups/pop-PowerVisi ... »

http://www.sprintpcs.com/common/popups/pop-PowerVisi ... »

http://www.sprintpcs.com/common/popups/pop-HandsetAs ... »

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hope that helps..

thanks

welcome.. 🙂

dude, why don't you just go back to the sextel forum? It's obvious you aren't contributing to this discussion. It is considered a piracy of service and a breach of contract to use an Ev-Do connection for your laptop without paying for the service. That's like pirating cable. Believe me.....Sprint, if they don't already limit this ability, will in the very near future. It is tantamount to theft.

dude, ccanady asked a question IN THIS FORUM, and i answered.

why didnt you say that comment to ccanady when he mentioned "so then I am better off going with sprint? The let you tehter w/o an aircard... I guess I will keep my Nextel account and just open a sprint account...sucks, I hate their CSR. " ?

enough already..

dont get so defensive.... this is a forum where anyone can talk about anything. please understand that.

djdelay said:
dude, why don't you just go back to the sextel forum? It's obvious you aren't contributing to this discussion. It is considered a piracy of service and a breach of contract to use an Ev-Do connection for your laptop without paying for the service. That's like pirating cable. Believe me.....Sprint, if they don't already limit this ability, will in the very near future. It is tantamount to theft.

I don't think that piracy is what's being discussed here. Verizon is saying that you can buy their Broadband service and use it for internet surfing, email, and intranet. They are also saying that you CANNOT use the service for downloading files or uploading files. That is about as dumb as you get...
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you need to understand the difference between Ev-Do service on a phone and Ev-Do service on an aircard. An aircard will allow downloads, uploads, etc. There is also a big difference in the cost of said services. it is $15/month for vcast service on a phone, but $80/month (I believe) for Ev-Do internet access through an aircard. That is why it is piracy to use a service that you are not paying for.

it is only 59.99 a month for an aircard if you also carry a verizon phone. Verizon is alos starting to loosen up their restrictions! the new blackberry offers a laptop tethered package for 15 dollars a month if you have the unlimited data pack on the blackberry. That 15 dollars allows you to hook up you blackberry to your laptop, hook up on evdo, and do what you want!

yeahright said:
it is only 59.99 a month for an aircard if you also carry a verizon phone. Verizon is alos starting to loosen up their restrictions! the new blackberry offers a laptop tethered package for 15 dollars a month if you have the unlimited data pack on the blackberry. That 15 dollars allows you to hook up you blackberry to your laptop, hook up on evdo, and do what you want!

Except VZW doesn't have a Blackberry with EVDO...

The 7250 is EVDO ready, just requires a software upgrade. Also the new one coming out will be EVDO.

Celling_it said:
The 7250 is EVDO ready, just requires a software upgrade. Also the new one coming out will be EVDO.

Are you sure? I spoke with some one in tech, not verizon's tech but he explained that the 7250 is not EV DO ready and if it was, do you think they will just release the software to make it EVDO capable when they can make more money off you to buy the new blackberry

that is what i gathered from blackberry training recently. They showed the new upcoming blckberry and said that evdo would be available through a sofware update. We also have brochures now showing the blackberry tethered option. I don't think the update is out yet but will be real soon.

let me reword that, evdo will be on 7250 through a sofware update, the new blackberry will have it out of box.

yeahright said:
let me reword that, evdo will be on 7250 through a sofware update, the new blackberry will have it out of box.

"The new one" is the 7130e, right?

Someone on HoFo said it'd be out this month.

yes that is the new one

mycool said:

yeahright said:
it is only 59.99 a month for an aircard if you also carry a verizon phone. Verizon is alos starting to loosen up their restrictions! the new blackberry offers a laptop tethered package for 15 dollars a month if you have the unlimited data pack on the blackberry. That 15 dollars allows you to hook up you blackberry to your laptop, hook up on evdo, and do what you want!

Except VZW doesn't have a Blackberry with EVDO...

verizon will allow the 7250 to do it after you get a sofware flash and the upcoming blackberry 7130e will have it available out of the box! So yes verizon does have blackberry with evdo 😛

djdelay said:
you need to understand the difference between Ev-Do service on a phone and Ev-Do service on an aircard. An aircard will allow downloads, uploads, etc. There is also a big difference in the cost of said services. it is $15/month for vcast service on a phone, but $80/month (I believe) for Ev-Do internet access through an aircard. That is why it is piracy to use a service that you are not paying for.

I understand the difference. I think we are talking about customers who are willing to pay for unlimited Data with a tethered phone.
So will Verizon let me use my phone as my modem if I pay for the Data Plan? I know I can do that with other companies. I thought we were talking about full data p...
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Verizon doesn't have that restriction on their normal data connection either.

That's becuase -- in both cases -- the "normal" data connection is not fast enough for anyone to seriously consider it as an alternative to cable/DSL; or even dialup, for that matter, in most cases.

However, EV-DO serivce is sufficiently fast to easily replace dialup, and faster than a significant portion of the DSL market as well. One of the reasons verizon HAS a great network with great reliability is becuase they take steps to try to make sure it doesn't get bogged down.

If you are trying to download a 50MB powerpoint, first of all, you are an idiot for having that large of a powerpoint file, your presentation will be horribly slow. But aside from t...
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Sprint actually GIVES you the data cable for tethered usage with their phone!!!

They have special plans in place for Vision subscribers who also want to use their phone as a modem. And they can track tethered usage. If someone tries to "abuse" the system, they'll have to prepare for a pretty large bill.

Their plan is $25 for unlimited Power Vision from your phone and 40 MB for tethered usage. Anything over is $.001/Kb with a max at $70. Pretty much the same price you pay for an aircard. I think that's a pretty fair plan, no?

yes thats fair.................and...............flexib le on the data side!!!???? SWEET 😁

The data cable is for more than just tethered use though...it lets you move pictures off the phone, and at least on the A940 it lets it print directly to a pictbridge compatible printer (I think I saw the 9000 can too, also the sprint website says the USB cable is optional...sanyo's says the USB cable is included...so I am a bit confused on that point...

I think the phonescoop review indicates you can move media files to/from the phone as well, and maybe even ringtones...

all in all a great deal. I saw & played with the A940 yesterday....I think they had to clean the drool off their counter after I left 🤣 I don't know if I can sell my wife on a $250 phone with no rebate, though. 😈

mupi said:

The point of EV-D0 service on a phone is to get fast web browsing, email, and intranet access...the very things allowed by verizon's policy...NOT to allow you to play EverQuest on your laptop while you are sitting in traffic. If you want to do that, get a data plan & an air card. You might even get faster access than your phone will 🙂

This is the entire point.
You are wrong here. Verizon may "want" you to only use aircards for internet surfing but that does not mean that's not what the phone was designed for.
Data Connect phones are designed specifically that. You are supposed to be able to tether and not need an air card. That is the purpose.
I have had a data plan and phone and nev...
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I wouldn't call my usage high, email, and web browsing about it. No big files. Been doing it for years, never had a problem.

teach me

Really?? You've been teathering an E815 for years? Or you were teathering a phone that didn't have EVDO access because that was allowed and on a phone w/ EVDO access it's not?

then what would be the point of tethering?

you are allowed to tether (say with a v710)....you just can't do it with an Ev-Do phone (i.e. e815). They will cancel your contract and charge you the ETF for misuse of services if they catch you. And they can catch you. It all has to do with bandwidth.

djdelay said:
you are allowed to tether (say with a v710)....you just can't do it with an Ev-Do phone (i.e. e815). They will cancel your contract and charge you the ETF for misuse of services if they catch you. And they can catch you. It all has to do with bandwidth.

Good sound business decision by Verizon there. 🙄
That's just completely ignorant. There is no reason to not let you tether your data capable phone for data. It sounds like they want to make money off of pc card sales. Most of the people I know who use data plans, tether their phones and don't use cards. I have some friends who use data cards too though.

if it is light usage you are never goiung to run into problems, they are looking for people chewing up some serious badwidth and abusing the system, not casual users. I have never heard of verizon taking any action towards anyone doing this, ever! I know a lot of people that thether 1730,815,9800 so on and so on and have never had any issues becasue it is not hooked up 24x7 with a ton of uploads and downloads running through them. If you know a case where verizon has taken action then please post, but my understanding has always been that it is their to protect their ass and give them a backbone to boot somebody who abuses this option.

There's a very good reason not to allow you to do it: it's called BANDWIDTH. There is no way that for $15/month you are covering more than a fraction of the cost that verizon incurrs to provide you with the bandwidth you are using when you tether; [b]even if[/b] all you are doing is web browsing. Browsing web pages on a PC takes at least 4-5x the bandwith compared to browsing on a cell phone.

They have data access plans for PCs, but they are more expensive, and they are more expensive for a reason: it costs verizon money to provide bandwidth to you, and if you are going to abuse the system and use more than $15/month worth of bandwidth, then they should be able to charge you for that.

Of course, they could just charge more for the ...
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That's a really long post for you to have missed the point. I'm not talking about the 15 dollar a month media plan. I'm talking about the Data plan.
So BANDWIDTH isn't the issue here.

Sounds more like you are willing to jump in and defend without knowing what you are talking about.

Which "data plan" for a phone would you be talking about?

There are data plans for smartphone/PDA and blackberry, but the same arguments apply: when verizon offers a data plan specifically for PC connectivity, why should you be able to piggyback and get, for a reduced cost, something that not only costs them (verizon) more money, but also that others have to pay more to get?

Bandwidth is still the primary concern, even most smartphone/PDA browsers don't, for bandwidth reasons, download everything.

The restriction still seems perfectly reasonable to me. [b]if you want to connect your PC, then purchase the "tethering option", or purchase an aircard[/b]

😈

that will not be a problem that restriciton really does not apply to pda phones so you have nothing to worry about.