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Alltel vs VZW...ARE YOU KIDDING ME GUYS!?!?!?!

jdhilzdsp

Nov 23, 2005, 1:45 PM
I read this site everyday but my firewall prohibits me from ever posting.

I have noticed something recently that irks me off.....hey Alltel fan boys...you are not Verizon!

Your service isnt as complete and reliable, you dont cover near the area VZW does, who cares what your rate plans are...Metro PCS has great plans too but is anyone clamoring for their service????

You guys are idiots, seriously. Maybe Alltel works in Deer Lick better than VZW for you, but quit making an apples-to-apples comparison between the two.

Example: I live in a little place called DALLAS TEXAS, maybe you have heard of it? Let me count out how many Alltel stores are here....huh...whats that, oh yeah NONE, way to cover major markets, i sure am glad i pay...
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wfine81

Nov 23, 2005, 1:48 PM
Shuoldn't this be in the ALLTEL forum?
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jdhilzdsp

Nov 23, 2005, 1:49 PM
not really, i dont want to lower myself to posting in that graveyard...ill leave it here for the trolls
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xIsamuTM

Nov 23, 2005, 2:03 PM
hey, can I have your 3 series for my Camery? I'll throw in the Brooklyn Bridge for just a dollar!
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maverick96

Nov 23, 2005, 2:12 PM
Awesome response to otherwise retarded posts!!! I too live in a little known city called Chicago and there are ZERO Alltel stores here as well!! I guess the cingular fan-boys must have payed some alltel fan-boys to come over here and try bring down the king of service, but just like cingular alltel fails miserably nationally to "americas most reliable wireless network" Nice try!!! hahaha 🤣 🤣
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daddydogg_00

Nov 23, 2005, 2:56 PM
I do not ever remember anyone coming over here and comparing Verizon to Alltel. Nontheless to get any flaming going on Verizon. Yeah Verizon may be the King and nobody from alltel will deny that but in certain markets Alltel is a helluva of a lot better than Verizon and with the roaming agreement Alltel's customers can enjoy Verizon in Areas they no longer have service. At least Alltel is not nickel and diming there customers making them pay to get service in stores or $15 to do an esn change that is ridiculous. If your so high on Verizon why would you waste your time with Alltel.
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storm99

Nov 23, 2005, 3:58 PM
Thanks daddydogg_00, your comments are appreciated. Verizon and Alltel are very close, I mean, they share each others towers in over half of one another's 'claimed' networks, and permit 100% usage of each others networks for both carriers customers.

Get real about this, they use the exact same CDMA technology...and Verizon and Alltel have overlapping service in all of Northern Ohio, and yes, even way outside of the big cities, like in farmland...not 'Just Alltel'

That's something to think about. Please think before you try to bash another carrier.
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SystemShock

Nov 23, 2005, 4:18 PM
Thing is, they really ain't the same.

Alltel don' offer as many phones as Verizon does (tho' I'll give 'em some props fo' gettin' the RAZR a lil' sooner), an' on most of their plans you can still get hit wit' roaming charges.

And on the Alltel plans that are roaming charge free, they give you a lot less minutes than on Verizon's no roam charge plans.

Not sayin' Alltel sucks o' anything, jus' that they ain' EXACTLY like Verizon.
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GinniUA

Jan 2, 2006, 4:11 AM
uhhh Grammar?>

oh and Alltel has free roaming
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ccanady

Jan 3, 2006, 3:59 PM
If you are in the wireless industry then you should no the difference btw Alltel's no roaming and Verizon's no roaming. With Verizon I do not roam but if I am in an area that is not covered then I get no service. With Alltel's no roaming, If I ca not get an Alltel tower I will use another carrierstower no matter who it is and will not get hit with romaing charges. So Alltel pretty much covers the bill but since they are doing so I do not have as greater mins as other plans.
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duckbutter

Nov 23, 2005, 4:54 PM
What about the rest of ohio, here in cbus, and as far as I know in cincy, dayton, etc there are no alltel stores
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CLEEVERIZON

Nov 23, 2005, 5:42 PM
Elyria has Alltel stores.30 miles west of C-Land.
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Healthnutz

Nov 23, 2005, 7:50 PM
I'm in Canton and we have a few Alltel stores. I've got a friend and his fiance' with Alltel, but other than them, everyone else on my contact list has Verizon. Majority has Verizon, some Sprint (the people who had it when it was decent and now they just don't want to change), and a couple with T-Mobile (the tight wads)
but as usual...there's always a few bad apples in there somewhere 😉
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GinniUA

Jan 2, 2006, 4:12 AM
Alltel is all around OH

I go to school at Akron and they have EV-DO in Akron/Cleveland
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maverick96

Nov 23, 2005, 11:26 PM
maybe you didn't read my post correctly I do not have alltel and probably never will. Why would I settle for something less when I can have the best? Doesn't make sense does it?
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mycool

Nov 23, 2005, 5:39 PM
How many overlapping markets do they really have? Alltel is a great company because of companies like VZW and VZW is a great company because of companies like Alltel. I honestly don't know that many markets out there where the service overlaps.... and since carriers only sell out of the markets they service I don't see this as an issue. Maybe the original poster lives in a market that offers both?
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daddydogg_00

Nov 24, 2005, 7:42 PM
Only like three percent overlap so that is another reason I am confused about the fighting. Like I said earlier they both have good to great coverage and the areas alltel covers are very well covered with a possible exception in Jacksonville Fl. Really for Roaming they both complement each other nicely. Down here in Tampa Alltel is cheaper and has better all around coverage in the bay area and polk county but nothing in Orlando but guess what? anyone who goes to Orlando gets to enjoy free roaming on VZW's network so it works out nicely. Why do we have to trash each other. I have never bashed Verizon nor will I even for a sale but in my Market Alltel just has some competitive advantages. It is what is. I will be the first to say if I move whe...
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TenMidgits

Nov 23, 2005, 6:55 PM
The whole Kia thing is a good idea. Keep thinking like that and you will get to retire early.
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Eddie Kukiela

Jan 1, 2006, 1:11 AM
Alltel (should be Allhel) has since dropped their Total Freedom packages.

If I recall correctly, here were the specifics of their $39.99 plan:

200 Minutes
Free Roaming
1,000 In-Network Minutes
1,000 Night & Weekend Minutes

And how about Verizon's America's Choice 450 plan for the same exact price?

450 Minutes
Free Roaming
Unlimited In-Network Minutes
Unlimited Night & Weekend Minutes

Heh, how stupid. Loss of 250 minutes + more than 40,000 in-network minutes, not to mention nights & weekends (on a typical calendar month, there are more than 40,000 minutes, VZW could care less if you use them all).

Their plan is even worse than T-Mobile's $39.99 600 plan, and I know how bad T-Mobile's coverage is.
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dave73

Jan 1, 2006, 4:20 PM
Luckily Alltel doesn't serve Indiana, because I know how it is to roam on Allte when traveling into SW Michigan. Their reception is garbage. At the state line, My tri-mode would flip to analog, then a few miles up I-94, it flips back to digital. As for their plans; I don't like them. Also their phone selection is worse than VZW,but it's odd that they get the Razr V3c on the market before VZW did. The only thing good about Alltel, and all other wireless carriers on this feature, is they don't cripple bluetooth & OBEX like VZW does. As for VZW, I've had problems using their service in Saukville Wisconsin, because VZW's Wisconsin network is the old Primeco service, and outside of Milwaukee, Madison, Janesville, & Beloit, their coverage is...
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VZW429

Jan 1, 2006, 4:28 PM
Alltel ISNT a National Carrier, theyre regional thats why they dont cover every major city.

alltel is only avalible in select markets, and where verizon isnt available (though they are pretty much everywhere look at nebraska, all of the coverage is an extended service area and it is more than likely covered by alltel's network) they provide us with coverage, we provide them with coverage. in other words they add to America's most reliable wireless network, cause if Alltel's network is so horrible, whyy has Verizon kept them as a roaming partner for such a long time? 😳
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dave73

Jan 2, 2006, 6:00 AM
I can tell you that Alltel is crap in SW Michigan. I am a VZW user and have roamed on Alltel in SW Michigan. While I was on a call in Indiana on VZW, my tri-mode phone would switch to analog once I hit the state line and switch to extended coverage. Just as soon as my phone would find a digital signal, my call would drop, then would have to redial the number, and along the way, my call would drop again. Alltel in SW Michigan around Benton Harbor & Fairhaven are so spotty that I typically only get at the most, 2 bars along I-94 & I-196. I have also got static on their network which I only get on VZW in select rural areas. As for why Alltel & VZW have roaming agreements? Simple answer, they both have CDMA digital, and allow each others'...
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GinniUA

Jan 2, 2006, 4:09 AM
You are a moron

Alltel is a midwest carrier that offers AMAZING COVERAGE along with the ability to completely roam on Verizon's network. Alltel also has EV-DO does Metro PCS? NO

Do us all a favor stay in Texas
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GinniUA

Jan 2, 2006, 4:23 AM
Lets get some things straight about Alltel.

1. They offer comparable phone. Great selection for a regional carrier.
2. You comparing Alltel to Verizon in Texas, shows your incompetence in the cellular market. Alltel is regional (Mid-Western) Verizon is national. Alltel wouldn't be in TX.
3. Alltel also has 3G EVDO.
4. Where ever Alltel is in the US, it remains a force. A great example - OHIO
5. Alltel is completely reliable, it is built off the same cdma structure as verizon. And with it ability to roam on verizon ALL OVER THE US. You proposing that said service is unreliable is merely diminishing your own point of how reliable Verizon is.
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Cellular Dude

Jan 2, 2006, 5:04 AM
I think VZ and Alltel are both great products. I have to say though that the Alltel people in this forum seem much more knowledge savy than the VZ people.
VZ people seem to want to run with what they see on "commercials" and what their mgrs tell them. "Verizons the best"
Alltel people seem to be much more knowledgeble about the product. For example VZ people are correct to say that Alltel is not in certain large markets. That is a notch in VZ belt. But VZ people seem to not talk about the fact that Alltel (with western wireless merger) has a much larger network than VZ. Bottom line is that BOTH carriers need one another.
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Georgia1

Jan 2, 2006, 9:26 AM
I am a verizon customer, and I agree with cellular Dude and GinniUA. It is about time someone points this out on this thread. A lot of people look at the Americas choice coverage map and see all the red and think that is verizon's area. They do not understand that a lot of the red is roaming agreements verizon has. As someone said, almost all of Nebraska is alltel, Omaha is the only area as of now that is owned and operated by verizon, Lincoln, Ne is going to be also. But other thenthat, if you are in Nebraska, it is a good chance you are using Alltel and it works fine.

If you want to know what is acutally owned and operated by verizon, look at their enhanced map, that is a close representation.

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GinniUA

Jan 2, 2006, 2:20 PM
EXACTLY

ALLTEL has the largest owned and operated network!
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duckbutter

Jan 2, 2006, 10:16 AM
nothing against anything you said or against alltel but a great example being ohio? I'll give you the northern half of ohio, but I've lived here my whole life in the southern half and have yet to ever see an alltel store or know anybody that even has their service.
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brentgodwin

Jan 2, 2006, 12:37 PM
Okay,

Here is the deal.

We here in Wonderful Wyoming. 😳 Have only two providers Alltel/Western Wireless and Verizon. I work for an indirect of Verizon and we compare coverage and plans every day. Most of alltel's new network is non-roaming but there are pockets in some places that you are going to pay for it (up to 99 cents a minute). The only difference in coverage between us an them in my area is that they cover more rurally than we do. Which will change once the analog agreements expire within the next couple of years. I have had both (before the alltel/western wireless merger) and I cannot tell you that there is any different coverage between the two. I did pay huge roaming charges and long distance fees when I was in Baton Rouge ...
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GinniUA

Jan 2, 2006, 2:52 PM
Alltel is awesome in Ohio

when I said this is was pertaining to their coverage (the entire state is blue on the map)

also it doesn't matter where you live, because alltel is everywhere .... ever been to cleveland or columbus?

how about the entire eastern side of ohio? Cinnci?

Alltel is everywhere
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duckbutter

Jan 2, 2006, 2:57 PM
yeah grew up in cincy, live in columbus now(go bucks). the service may work fine here I never said that it didn't. but I have never met anybody that had alltel nor have I ever seen a store in columbus or cincy, towards zanesville or dayton.
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GinniUA

Jan 2, 2006, 3:04 PM
just a thought

The Irish are going to kick the Buck's asses

anyway

at least we agree on alltel lol
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SForsyth01

Jan 3, 2006, 2:53 PM
GinniUA said:
The Irish are going to kick the Buck's asses


Looks like you missed that one. 🤣
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SystemShock

Jan 3, 2006, 5:47 PM
SForsyth01 said:
GinniUA said:
The Irish are going to kick the Buck's asses


Looks like you missed that one. 🤣

I'll say. ND tried, but no cigah. 🙂

That aint a slam on them tho'.. the Buckeyes have been amazin' all year. They could've beaten Texas earlier this year an' been even higher-ranked, if not for one dumb play where they pushed themselves outta FG range unneccessarily an' left the door open.

How bad does peeps think 'SC will smash Texas tomorrow? I think Texas'll hang tough in the first half, but the final score shouldn't be close.
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SForsyth01

Jan 4, 2006, 3:48 PM
SystemShock said:
SForsyth01 said:
GinniUA said:
The Irish are going to kick the Buck's asses


Looks like you missed that one. 🤣

I'll say. ND tried, but no cigah. 🙂

That aint a slam on them tho'.. the Buckeyes have been amazin' all year. They could've beaten Texas earlier this year an' been even higher-ranked, if not for one dumb play where they pushed themselves outta FG range unneccessarily an' left the door open.

How bad does peeps think 'SC will smash Texas tomorrow? I think Texas'll hang tough in the first half, but the final score shouldn't be close.

The buckeyes were nothing. Penn State proved that. And I'm taking Tex...
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duckbutter

Jan 4, 2006, 4:04 PM
are you seriously saying the buckeyes are nothing because penn state beat them. they won by a touchdown, thats not really a beatdown or anything.
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VZW429

Jan 4, 2006, 6:54 PM
talk about off topic but...
i think texas will win

what does everyone else think?
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SForsyth01

Jan 4, 2006, 8:30 PM
I'm saying that if the buckeyes couldn't beat Penn State, they wouldn't stand a prayer against a team like LSU, USC, or Texas. So yes, as pertaining to this season, I'm saying the buckeyes were nothing to be concerned about.
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SystemShock

Jan 4, 2006, 9:25 PM
The Bucks already played Texas this season.. an came very close to beatin' 'em.

Anyways, back to the game. 🙂
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SystemShock

Jan 4, 2006, 8:02 PM
SForsyth01 said:
The buckeyes were nothing. Penn State proved that. And I'm taking Texas over USC.

I likes ya, Fo'syth, but wrong on both counts.

The Buckeyes are a great team.. #2 Texas an' #3 Penn State both beat 'em only in close games, and the Bucks beat #6 Notre Dame pretty convincingly. Don' sound like 'nothin' to me.

On the second point, i expect Texas to give 'SC problems early on, but in the end, 'SC will take 'em. Watch an' learn tonite. 🙂
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SystemShock

Jan 5, 2006, 12:28 AM
Damn. What a great game. 😁

My hat's off to Texas. I do think the game coulda gone either way, an' a big 'boo' to the refs for blowin' a coupla key calls, but in the end, Texas (an' 'specially Vince Young) played well enough to win, so ya can't say they didn't deserve it. Congrats.
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yeahright

Jan 2, 2006, 5:31 PM
there is one in newark, the only one i have ever seen
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yeahright

Jan 2, 2006, 5:27 PM
yup, they actually cover about 9 counties in far eastern ohio, no major market coverage, no columbus, cincinnatti or dayton, or anything in between, they simply bum off of verizon here.
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Georgia1

Jan 2, 2006, 5:37 PM
and verizon burns off of Alltel in 99% of Nebraska, and soon most of minnesota and northern Iowa, that is just in the midwest not including kansas or missouri.
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yeahright

Jan 2, 2006, 5:54 PM
yup, i realize that, we were talking about ohio
i have nothing against alltel, just don't consider them as competition since they don't exist in my market, same as us cellular and cellularone. I am thankful though verizon is building out their data network onto extended areas owned by alltel.
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GinniUA

Jan 2, 2006, 6:13 PM
They aren't competition because they aren't present in your market>? wtf?

thats hilarious
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yeahright

Jan 2, 2006, 6:37 PM
I am talking about my location not national competition. If you have no stores within 100 miles of me and no service, then no, you are not competition(in my area)
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Georgia1

Jan 2, 2006, 7:13 PM
yeahright is right, they are not competition to him yet. When they buy into his area, then they are competition. In my area, I have 2 choices, US Cellular, or Verizon, those two are the only ones in competition here. Unless Alltel, or any other carrier is offered in my area, they are not an option to me, meaning that those two carriers only have competition between them. Alltel is not competion in this market because I can not get them, as with yeahright, he can not get alltel, so, alltel is not competition in his/her area...
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