although i find it hard to believe that no one has posted this yet...the razr is in infomanager now(Northeast areas anyway). price 299.99 - $100 MIR(previously posted). dec 5 online only, dec 12 in store. there is a nice little competition comparison in there that just mentions all the things everyone who reads this forum already knew for a long time. oh, i think full retail was 419.99. sorry if this is a repost.