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I must live in this microverse where not that many bad things happen to me. My phone (moto815) has never dropped a call. I live in Ken Caryl (anyone familiar with colorado knows and dreads this patch of dirt) yet I have few probems. Any electronic device (an Emachine with a faulty modem, a DISH DVR 522) that i've ever hand problems with was taken care of in a proper and timely fassion. The one real time I had a situation drag on was regarding my DSL when I had it first activated. I made the mistake of giving the wrong address so my modem as delayed a week in shipping, and an extra week because my line was not provisioned. I was kinda miffed, but I never really got mad.
How do I include others in this microverse. How is it I seem to have the...
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You can cancel that DSL or Dish service anytime you want without paying an additional $150 or so for the privelage of doing so.
Ever trap an animal before? Not too happy about it are they? But what if you earned that animals trust, etc to get it, it would probably be a lot happier with you right?
Well, humans are animals too and as long as wireless providers think the best way to retain customers is to trap them in contracts in exchange for a reasonable price on equipment people are just generally going to be a little on edge with them all the time - then when someone pokes them with a stick, like a trapped animal, they'll erupt.
It's not rocket science...too bad wireless providers still think it is though.
Ever trap an animal before? Not too happy about it are they? But what if you earned that animals trust, etc to get it, it would probably be a lot happier with you right?
Well, humans are animals too and as long as wireless providers think the best way to retain customers is to trap them in contracts in exchange for a reasonable price on equipment people are just generally going to be a little on edge with them all the time - then when someone pokes them with a stick, like a trapped animal, they'll erupt.
It's not rocket science...too bad wireless providers still think it is though.
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Yea, @ $.10/minute + $.99/day access fee so if you use 900 minutes in a month that's roughly $120 compared to the $59.99 month 900 anytime minutes plan.
Woohoo! Twice the price for the ability to switch carriers! đ
I don't see Comcast, Dish or other type providers responding to such criticism with "pre-paid", oh wait - that's cause they don't try to trap customers either so they don't have to.
Woohoo! Twice the price for the ability to switch carriers! đ
I don't see Comcast, Dish or other type providers responding to such criticism with "pre-paid", oh wait - that's cause they don't try to trap customers either so they don't have to.
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OH SCHNAP...sdgmcdon GOT SERVED! or pwned if your prefer, the way you kids talk today....
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urnamehere said:
OH SCHNAP...sdgmcdon GOT SERVED! or pwned if your prefer, the way you kids talk today....
đ i have never heard "pwned" in my hood. đ
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Actually you are incorrect. They give you the option of an 18 month commitment in exchange for waiving their $50 equipment charge for multiple recievers and a DVR - thats hardly trapping people in a contract when you have the option to pay the $50 and go month to month (not to mention $50 for all that equipment is FAR MORE reasonable than hundreds for a single cell phone).
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What if they gave you Unlimited premium channels at NO extra charge for a 2 yr contract? VZW is giving unlimited VZW to VZW calling AND Unlimited Nights and Weekends AND Nationwide Long Distance...all the while providing the nations best, most reliable cellular network.
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Wow! What a deal! I can't beleive Verizon would do that!!! Oh, wait...Every other carrier in competition with Verizon does the same thing or something similar...hmm - not so special anymore. But I will say in rural areas verizons coverage is better; which by that very point makes it irrelevant to most people.
Now let me answer that in reference to the wireless industry as a whole. What you mention above is considered "Basic Programming" in the wireless industry. Now if you had said (and if it were reality) free unlimited data, free unlimited texting, free phone insurance etc etc and/or combinations of other such things, then yea, that would be a good start.
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Now let me answer that in reference to the wireless industry as a whole. What you mention above is considered "Basic Programming" in the wireless industry. Now if you had said (and if it were reality) free unlimited data, free unlimited texting, free phone insurance etc etc and/or combinations of other such things, then yea, that would be a good start.
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Then VZW offers Easy Pay. 50 bucks gets you unlimited nights and weekends, unlimited vzw 2 vzw and 350 peak minutes. 70 gets you 700 minutes... no contract.
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don't forget about the $.99/day access fees and also, let me just do the math on your example above, I wont bother checking the accuracy of your claim (350 for $50), I'll take your word on that for now.
$50 for 350 anytime minutes is roughly $.14/minute (rounded down) and lets say you use those 350 in one month as a baseline to go by here...adding in your $.99/day access fee brings that to roughly $.22/minute (again, rounded down). The closest contractual plan that compares to that on their site is 450 anytime minutes for $39.99/month which is $.08/minute.
You are not very good at selling this plan because as you will see below, the ACTUAL pay as you go per VZW site is cheaper than what you stated.
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$50 for 350 anytime minutes is roughly $.14/minute (rounded down) and lets say you use those 350 in one month as a baseline to go by here...adding in your $.99/day access fee brings that to roughly $.22/minute (again, rounded down). The closest contractual plan that compares to that on their site is 450 anytime minutes for $39.99/month which is $.08/minute.
You are not very good at selling this plan because as you will see below, the ACTUAL pay as you go per VZW site is cheaper than what you stated.
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The Easy Pay isn't 99 cents per day. I think it might be a regional VZW product though. But it is 50 bucks a month for 350 cell minutes and unlimited nights and weekends and unlimited M2M. If you run out of your 350 minutes, but are not at the 30 day mark yet, you can spend another 50 and start your month over, or you can just ride out whatever days are remaining just using M2M and nights and weekends...
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Well, not sure what you are talking about (the easypay thing) I cannot find it on VZW site, that is, the service option, though I did find limited information about it in their FAQ's but couldn't find anything to confirm your comments on it...Doesn't seem to be something they want people to use or is a regional thing? Whatever.
What I am referring to is inpulse.
What I am referring to is inpulse.
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Okay cool thanks. Curious though, from the site www.verizonwireless.com where do you click to get to this? I ask because I tried to find this from the main site - it ain't there and thus it appears to me this is something Verizon doesn't want people to do (or it would be an upfront easy to find option).
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That's in exchange for a $50 equipment cost on multiple receivers and DVR...They give you the OPTION of paying the $50 with ZERO commitment.
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and you get the option of buying a phone at a higher cost and having a prepaid service. You also have the option that no one seems to be discussing here...
IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH THE TERMS, THEN DON'T SIGN A CONTRACT. DON'T GET VERIZON'S SERVICE AT ALL.
There. That seems like the best option for you. Do you think a company really wants a client who bad mouths their product all the time?
IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH THE TERMS, THEN DON'T SIGN A CONTRACT. DON'T GET VERIZON'S SERVICE AT ALL.
There. That seems like the best option for you. Do you think a company really wants a client who bad mouths their product all the time?
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sure it is. You don't have to purchase a certain product. Carry change around with you and hit a pay phone if you need to...
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If thats the way you think that's fine...I'm not really interested in explaining myself to someone that doesn't even bother to THINK about what the argument is in the first place.
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...sort of... Kind of like if your car is screwed up and you have no idea (or have any motor skills), you'll always be aprehensive when the mechanic tells you it's your rejigger switch that failed and it'll cost you $1000 for parts/labor... People get moody because they just 'don't know'. Maybe they feel it's something they should know. How wireless technology works or an internal combustion engine. No, you rely on someone else to help you (or not help you) who knows. There is a lot of trust there, but, if I could build a cellphone or a car that would last forever and beat the genetic eightball or obsolescense...
If the only way to keep you straight is to purchase phones from eBay to keep you on a month to month than so be it...
If the only way to keep you straight is to purchase phones from eBay to keep you on a month to month than so be it...
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What do people "not know" about termination fee's? What is there to know about cell service that would somehow make termination fees acceptable?
Electric comapnies have costly infrastructure
Gas companies have costly infrastructure
DSL/Cable providers have costly infrastructure
Telco providers have costly infrastructure
etc
etc
etc
What the hell makes wireless so special that the nature of the service justifies termination fee's?
Answer: Nothing.
Electric comapnies have costly infrastructure
Gas companies have costly infrastructure
DSL/Cable providers have costly infrastructure
Telco providers have costly infrastructure
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What the hell makes wireless so special that the nature of the service justifies termination fee's?
Answer: Nothing.
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Only legit reason wireless got termination fees is 'cus they use the contract time to subsidize the phone. You get a $200 retail phone fo' 'FREE", it ain't really free, only suckers believe that. It gets subsidized over the length o' the contract. Which is why you get a bigger break on the phone price onna 2-yr contract as 'posed to a 1-yr.
So, if a customer cuts out inna middle of a contract, the phone don' get fully subsidized, an' the carrier is out some cash. So they getcha wit' an 'early termination fee', so you end up payin' off that phone one way o' another. Kinda like da mafia. đ
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So, if a customer cuts out inna middle of a contract, the phone don' get fully subsidized, an' the carrier is out some cash. So they getcha wit' an 'early termination fee', so you end up payin' off that phone one way o' another. Kinda like da mafia. đ
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This I understand; that's a given. You're last paragraph is sort of what I'm getting at here.
Aside from double the price pay as you go plans, wireless providers don't to MTM and they generally give you crap if you want to choose a phone they don't currently sell. That's one of the reasons I hope Cingular gets off their ass and fixes their network - unlocked GSM phones galore! That just ain't an option on CDMA.
And why do you write like that in forums, you have an ebonics interpreter program or something working in reverse? It's really annoying.
Aside from double the price pay as you go plans, wireless providers don't to MTM and they generally give you crap if you want to choose a phone they don't currently sell. That's one of the reasons I hope Cingular gets off their ass and fixes their network - unlocked GSM phones galore! That just ain't an option on CDMA.
And why do you write like that in forums, you have an ebonics interpreter program or something working in reverse? It's really annoying.
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I type like how I talk. Sry if its annoyin' to ya, but I consider it 'flava'. You don' have to agree. đ
How's dat 6256i workin' out for ya?
How's dat 6256i workin' out for ya?
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And why do you write like that in forums, you have an ebonics interpreter program or something working in reverse? It's really annoying.
Well ta be fair sgd, back when you was on some sorta jihad 'gainst the VZW forum 'cus you couldn't get the 6256 as fast as you wanted to, an' posted like 100 times a day 'bout it, a whole lotta peeps here found you 'annoyin'. âšī¸
Guess the best policy is to live an' let live, huh?
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I am.. I didn't bring up who's annoyin' 'til you did.
Tolerance is important in all walks o' life, since everyone's diff'rent. đ
Tolerance is important in all walks o' life, since everyone's diff'rent. đ
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crazyeaglefan236 said:
i do believe the feeling is mutual
LOL. Too true. đ
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And why do you write like that in forums, you have an ebonics interpreter program or something working in reverse? It's really annoying.
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Right now Verizon LANDLINE has a deal that if you sign a one year contract you can get a free router for DSL, or the monthly service for 15 bucks (depending on what area you are in). You cancel within a year and it is a 99.00 termination fee...
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$50 router you'll have and use for years (decade?) or a $99 cancellation fee if you break a contract...hmmm, oh and yea...it's an OPTION you're given. I don't see any non-contractual OPTIONS from any cell provider without paying TWICE the contracted per minute cost or more.
I do see however that with your example above I can provide my own router and be month to month at a reasonable monthly cost that's comparable if not the same as their contractual monthly cost.
Do you see where your attempt at a comparison fails and is more like comparing apples to oranges than apples to apples?
I do see however that with your example above I can provide my own router and be month to month at a reasonable monthly cost that's comparable if not the same as their contractual monthly cost.
Do you see where your attempt at a comparison fails and is more like comparing apples to oranges than apples to apples?
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you do have options will cellular. Just like the DSL, you can pay more a month and not have a contract...Easy Pay is one option. You pay more for the handset too...but still, it is without contract.
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Wow, you really have it in for me don't ya? How cute!
Keep ignoring the point that the "pay more a month for no contract" option is a percentage more a month that is completely unreasonable and that that is my point; seems to work for you.
Unless of course you consider 100% more expensive to be reasonable, in which case we would just have to agree to disagree.
Keep ignoring the point that the "pay more a month for no contract" option is a percentage more a month that is completely unreasonable and that that is my point; seems to work for you.
Unless of course you consider 100% more expensive to be reasonable, in which case we would just have to agree to disagree.
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wait. so people don't like being poked with sticks? i guess i'll have to put ol' pokey away for awhile.
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MIKE3222 said:
wait. so people don't like being poked with sticks? i guess i'll have to put ol' pokey away for awhile.
If pokin' things with sticks is wrong, who wants to be right?
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You're argument is flawed in one big point. Do you even realize how much equipment would cost without subsadization!? Let's see, would I rather have paid $50 for a Samsung A950 on black friday or would I rather pay the full retail of $300+ for the same unit? Hmm... tough choice.
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Yes actually I do...Considering it's pay equipment cost (my new nokia, $220) and have no contract obligations at all - or pay what was it $99 and be locked in for 2 years.
A lot of people, obviously including myself, would rather pay for the equipment. Now, If you try to go to the idea of the cancellation fee isn't a lot higher than the difference in cost of the phone keep this in mind, you cannot sell the cancellation fee on eBay, but you can sell the phone.
And your argument about your black Friday deal is absurd, 1 day out of 365 you got a good deal and likely had to deal with massive crowds to get it - I don't think any rational person would consider that a legit comparison.
A lot of people, obviously including myself, would rather pay for the equipment. Now, If you try to go to the idea of the cancellation fee isn't a lot higher than the difference in cost of the phone keep this in mind, you cannot sell the cancellation fee on eBay, but you can sell the phone.
And your argument about your black Friday deal is absurd, 1 day out of 365 you got a good deal and likely had to deal with massive crowds to get it - I don't think any rational person would consider that a legit comparison.
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Um... I am an employee. And do you mean at last one persone thinks, or that I feel sorry that so many people have problems with things that dont seem to affect me and want to help in some way?
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đ đ˛ you should stay away from your pc when coming down off that ecstacy đŗ . aren't you the dude that has the sister that keeps getting locked up but you've never been caught? đ you have crazy thoughts and emotions you should really consider therapy brah. đŗ đ .
peace đ
peace đ
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yes. that is me. it just astounds me that some people post to the board saying "XYZ company is the worst on the planet" or "WZOM lies in its advertising." Some people tend to think the world is out to get them and end up in one bad situation after another.
Donno.. it's just weird and kinda amusing that the same speil exists in every (active) forum.
Donno.. it's just weird and kinda amusing that the same speil exists in every (active) forum.
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yea that's because they are that companies biggest fan.
we all know t-mobile has the worst coverage of the 4 top companies.....but will a t-mobile employee or sales rep tell you that?........no
we all know t-mobile has the worst coverage of the 4 top companies.....but will a t-mobile employee or sales rep tell you that?........no
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