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VZWCustServ

May 29, 2004, 12:24 PM
Many counties/cities/and districts have banns on cell towers being placing within their boarders. I highly recommend being active in your local government and letting your local planning commisioner know that you want to allow cell towers in your area. This will assist VZW in giving the best service posible.
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muchdrama

May 29, 2004, 2:36 PM
VZWCustServ said:
Many counties/cities/and districts have banns on cell towers being placing within their boarders. I highly recommend being active in your local government and letting your local planning commisioner know that you want to allow cell towers in your area. This will assist VZW in giving the best service posible.
AND melt our children's brains.
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jester2ll2

May 29, 2004, 3:09 PM
Verizon needs to improve coverage in buildings first, then worry about building more towers.

I can have full signal on the street, go inside and have no service.
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verizonccemp

May 29, 2004, 3:59 PM
Yeah, VERIZON is the only one to have this problem. Think about it, it's a law of physics, you go in a building, signal goes down. 😕
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jester2ll2

May 29, 2004, 4:35 PM
But the sad part is, the building I work in, the only people that get service are AT&T customers.

Guess they have to get service somewhere. 🙄
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amjk_03

Jun 5, 2004, 3:38 PM
Actually, VZW has the best reception in more buildings than any other company...keep in mind the construction of the building and their security system plays a major role in your reception.
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Anxiovert

Jun 5, 2004, 11:11 PM
amjk_03 said:
Actually, VZW has the best reception in more buildings than any other company...keep in mind the construction of the building and their security system plays a major role in your reception.


I agree, but you forgot to add that CDMA goes through walls better than GSM.
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MarkF

Jun 6, 2004, 5:49 AM
amjk_03 said:
Actually, VZW has the best reception in more buildings than any other company...keep in mind the construction of the building and their security system plays a major role in your reception.


It depends on what band Verizon is operating. If they are one of the 800 MHz carriers that is probably a pretty true statement.

But in some areas, like Florida, Verizon is on 1900 MHz and can't keep up with AT&T, Cingular, and NEXTEL. Those are the 800 carriers thru most of the state and they beat the pants off Verizon in the ability to penetrate buildings.
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muchdrama

Jun 6, 2004, 6:04 PM
MarkF said:
amjk_03 said:
Actually, VZW has the best reception in more buildings than any other company...keep in mind the construction of the building and their security system plays a major role in your reception.


It depends on what band Verizon is operating. If they are one of the 800 MHz carriers that is probably a pretty true statement.

But in some areas, like Florida, Verizon is on 1900 MHz and can't keep up with AT&T, Cingular, and NEXTEL. Those are the 800 carriers thru most of the state and they beat the pants off Verizon in the ability to penetrate buildings.
Actually, 850mhz only offers marginal gains in penetration over 1900mhz.
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MarkF

Jun 6, 2004, 7:35 PM
muchdrama said:
MarkF said:
amjk_03 said:
Actually, VZW has the best reception in more buildings than any other company...keep in mind the construction of the building and their security system plays a major role in your reception.


It depends on what band Verizon is operating. If they are one of the 800 MHz carriers that is probably a pretty true statement.

But in some areas, like Florida, Verizon is on 1900 MHz and can't keep up with AT&T, Cingular, and NEXTEL. Those are the 800 carriers thru most of the state and they beat the pants off Verizon in the ability to penetrate buildings.
Actually, 850mhz only offers marginal gains in penetration over 19
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muchdrama

Jun 7, 2004, 3:07 PM
MarkF said:
muchdrama said:
MarkF said:
amjk_03 said:
Actually, VZW has the best reception in more buildings than any other company...keep in mind the construction of the building and their security system plays a major role in your reception.


It depends on what band Verizon is operating. If they are one of the 800 MHz carriers that is probably a pretty true statement.

But in some areas, like Florida, Verizon is on 1900 MHz and can't keep up with AT&T, Cingular, and NEXTEL. Those are the 800 carriers thru most of the state and they beat the pants off Verizon in the ability to penetrate buildings.
Actually, 850mhz only offers margi
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MarkF

Jun 7, 2004, 6:42 PM
muchdrama said:
MarkF said:
muchdrama said:
MarkF said:
amjk_03 said:
Actually, VZW has the best reception in more buildings than any other company...keep in mind the construction of the building and their security system plays a major role in your reception.


It depends on what band Verizon is operating. If they are one of the 800 MHz carriers that is probably a pretty true statement.

But in some areas, like Florida, Verizon is on 1900 MHz and can't keep up with AT&T, Cingular, and NEXTEL. Those are the 800 carriers thru most of the state and they beat the pants off Verizon in the ability to penetrate buildings.
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muchdrama

Jun 8, 2004, 3:38 PM
MarkF said:
muchdrama said:
MarkF said:
muchdrama said:
MarkF said:
amjk_03 said:
Actually, VZW has the best reception in more buildings than any other company...keep in mind the construction of the building and their security system plays a major role in your reception.


It depends on what band Verizon is operating. If they are one of the 800 MHz carriers that is probably a pretty true statement.

But in some areas, like Florida, Verizon is on 1900 MHz and can't keep up with AT&T, Cingular, and NEXTEL. Those are the 800 carriers thru most of the state and they beat the pants off Verizon in the ability to
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MarkF

Jun 8, 2004, 6:25 PM
muchdrama said:
MarkF said:
muchdrama said:
MarkF said:
muchdrama said:
MarkF said:
amjk_03 said:
Actually, VZW has the best reception in more buildings than any other company...keep in mind the construction of the building and their security system plays a major role in your reception.


It depends on what band Verizon is operating. If they are one of the 800 MHz carriers that is probably a pretty true statement.

But in some areas, like Florida, Verizon is on 1900 MHz and can't keep up with AT&T, Cingular, and NEXTEL. Those are the 800 carriers thru most of the state and they beat the
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muchdrama

Jun 8, 2004, 8:29 PM
MarkF said:
muchdrama said:
MarkF said:
muchdrama said:
MarkF said:
muchdrama said:
MarkF said:
amjk_03 said:
Actually, VZW has the best reception in more buildings than any other company...keep in mind the construction of the building and their security system plays a major role in your reception.


It depends on what band Verizon is operating. If they are one of the 800 MHz carriers that is probably a pretty true statement.

But in some areas, like Florida, Verizon is on 1900 MHz and can't keep up with AT&T, Cingular, and NEXTEL. Those are the 800 carriers thru mos
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badsky2k

Jun 8, 2004, 1:43 PM
Simple thing. Think of RF as sunlight. An object blocks sunlight and you have shade (less sunlight but you can still see aka lower signal). I have seen signal go down in a heavy rain storm. Why do some buildings get one carrier better than others? I would look on top of the building or buildings next door for cell antennas. I get full signal with my VZW in elevators and even on the 3rd floor of an underground parking lot because the building has cell antennas mounted on the top (it's a 6 story building). So EVERY carrier has it's hot spots & cold spots. The biggest problem with coverage is the "NOT IN MY BACKYARD" issue. Funny, when I was a CSR for AT&T, the biggest (highest paying customers) complained the loudest, but when asked if we coul...
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SPCSVZWJeff

Jun 8, 2004, 6:53 PM
Eventually everyone will have the same coverage and there will be other things that differentiate one carrier from another.

One thing some carriers have done is to put a small active repeater in a building in order to increase signal strength.

Once the areas carriers are obligated to cover are covered then they will fill in the blanks. I can't see any carrier not doing this.
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85percent

Jun 8, 2004, 7:10 PM
SPCSVZWJeff said:
Eventually everyone will have the same coverage and there will be other things that differentiate one carrier from another.

One thing some carriers have done is to put a small active repeater in a building in order to increase signal strength.

Once the areas carriers are obligated to cover are covered then they will fill in the blanks. I can't see any carrier not doing this.


The trend of technology with wireless carriers is getting more and more into wireless data as the years go on, i.e. picture messaging, wireless web access (EV-DO), and wireless data transfer (bluetooth). This is the only thing that will eventually differentiate one carrier from another. And the advancement or da...
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jhmlbrgr

May 30, 2004, 6:29 AM
Having the phone work in a building is a function of how close a tower is located to the building.
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BrianJ

Jun 7, 2004, 10:16 AM
jester2ll2 said:
Verizon needs to improve coverage in buildings first, then worry about building more towers.

I can have full signal on the street, go inside and have no service.


So where do you think signal comes from? Is there a magic signal fairy that they should put inside the building for you?
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muchdrama

Jun 7, 2004, 3:09 PM
BrianJ said:
jester2ll2 said:
Verizon needs to improve coverage in buildings first, then worry about building more towers.

I can have full signal on the street, go inside and have no service.


So where do you think signal comes from? Is there a magic signal fairy that they should put inside the building for you?
You talk as if there IS no magic signal fairy. Don't go upsetting me.
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Biggs

Jun 7, 2004, 4:31 PM
Wait, if that's true, what about Santa, and the Easter Bunny? â˜šī¸
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zentec

May 30, 2004, 7:55 AM
There are plenty of ways to get around the "no cell tower" problem. Cellular systems like this do not need their own tower; space can be leased on existing broadcast facilities, tops of buildings, tops of electrical transmission towers, any place where they can get >150 feet in the air.

Coupled with stealth sectorized antenna designs, you can put cell sites just about anywhere within an area that's zoned "no towers" and no one is the wiser.
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