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Dataquest

Jun 3, 2004, 10:55 PM
When the new megapixel camera phones come out, I want to get one, but I need some help deciding which carrier to choose for the picture sending/receiving service. As far as the audio reception goes, It seems that Verizon is probably the best, but I know that Sprint is very clear in my area (30 miles north of Austin, Texas). I have T-mobile right now but the reception sucks. But it seems that T-mobile is best for picture sending because when you send them, they go right where you want them to go, not to a website where the receiving person gets a link to the picture and has to get it through the link, which is a pain in the butt. Sprint does it this way.
I'm not sure how AT&T does it yet. I dont like the fact that Verizon charges airtime too, when sending pictures though. Anyway, to cut it short, which carrier would you people recommend for a camera phone service. I would appreciate the info.
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SPCSVZWJeff

Jun 4, 2004, 10:29 AM
A very good question. Up front I must say that I am partial to Verizon and Sprint.
It really depends on what is important to you.
You say that picture sending is important to you. That could also mean that in general data services are important.

For picture sending and general data services Sprint PCS is the best choice IF they cover the areas you need covered. If not Verizon is a better choice. Neither Sprint nor Verizon send pictures to a website, they go right to a phone or email address. The difference is between (I will quote the slow side for both) 20kbps for T-Mobile and 50kbps for Verizon and Sprint.

If general coverage is your concern for voice then look at where you want the phone to work and choose according to actual co...
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Dataquest

Jun 4, 2004, 8:44 PM
Thanks for all of the detailed info. But I am wondering about one thing you said that maybe you can clarify for me. You say that neither Sprint nor Verizon sends pictures to a website. Maybe Sprint has changed the way they do it since I breifly had Sprint for about 2 weeks around 7 or 8 months ago. This was the reason I went to T-mobile. Because when I took pictures and sent them, they went directly to another phone or e-mail address, which I liked. But when I had Sprint, I would send the picture to my home e-mail. When I went to recieve the picture, it was actually a link to the sprint picture center or whatever they called it. I guess I am being nit picky, but I just dont like links instead of the actual picture because it takes longer and...
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kingfrog77

Jun 7, 2004, 12:27 PM
Not Verizon! In Atlantic City NJ those who I am working with here that are from the west coast cannot get reliable signals. I live in Las Vegas and my ATT contract is on month to month and I'm looking to switch. I thought since Verizon is more expensive they were in turn more reliable in terms of location. But I travel a lot and since some of my west coast Verizon users are having issues here...Well I would suggest IF the ATT and Cingular deal goes through..that will be the carrier to select.....
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chris_lt1

Jun 7, 2004, 2:05 PM
kingfrog77 said:
Not Verizon! In Atlantic City NJ those who I am working with here that are from the west coast cannot get reliable signals. I live in Las Vegas and my ATT contract is on month to month and I'm looking to switch. I thought since Verizon is more expensive they were in turn more reliable in terms of location. But I travel a lot and since some of my west coast Verizon users are having issues here...Well I would suggest IF the ATT and Cingular deal goes through..that will be the carrier to select.....


Is it just me or are all the ATT customers on this forum angry at the world for their poor choice in carriers? Honestly, I see Cingular, Tmobile, Sprint, and Nextel customers talk things over in ...
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kingfrog77

Jun 7, 2004, 8:40 PM
Its definatly you. I called like I saw it. ATT and Cingular will most likely be the best service all around, especially for the price.

In any case a Verizon rep verified my story and reccommended Cingular for Atlantic City aon't get and Las Vegas if the phone is going to be used in both places. Don't get me wrong I have been with ATT for years and I am satisfied with them except I moved to a house where my TDMA signal was weak but was hesitant to go GSM as ATT was way behind the ball there. Now that Cingular is buying them, I think that will be the way to go. I do not think ATT is a poor choice any more, but since I am month to month I was checking out other carries and yes I did find Verizon to reflect an arrogance and take it or leave ...
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chris_lt1

Jun 8, 2004, 12:00 PM
kingfrog77 said:
Its definatly you. I called like I saw it. ATT and Cingular will most likely be the best service all around, especially for the price.

In any case a Verizon rep verified my story and reccommended Cingular for Atlantic City aon't get and Las Vegas if the phone is going to be used in both places. Don't get me wrong I have been with ATT for years and I am satisfied with them except I moved to a house where my TDMA signal was weak but was hesitant to go GSM as ATT was way behind the ball there. Now that Cingular is buying them, I think that will be the way to go. I do not think ATT is a poor choice any more, but since I am month to month I was checking out other carries and yes I did find Verizon to refle
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kingfrog77

Jun 8, 2004, 9:06 PM
Enjoy it while you can......Nokia had the same attitude....now yes they are still the largest but are losing market share......as will Verizon.
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SPCSVZWJeff

Jun 8, 2004, 9:43 PM
Who will they lose market share to? At the current growth rates VZW will pass the combined Cingular/ATTWS company.

Cingular and ATTWS have much higher churn rates than VZW. Only Nextel and U.S. Cellular have churn rates nearly as low as VZW.

VZW is also adding over 1.5 million customers per quarter. This is wishful thinking on the part of someone to say they will take market share from VZW.

As a dealer I can say that they do more things right than they do wrong. They are the biggest beneficiary of LNP. They own the JD Power and Associates award for customer satisfaction.
Keep in mind that it is the customers themselves who give these ratings.

Nokia's market share diminished because their CDMA phones absolutely stank because th...
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kingfrog77

Jun 8, 2004, 11:14 PM
Well I hope for your sake the growth rates are a predictor for the future. I feel Verizon is driving looking through the rear view mirror with statements like that used to prove viability for the future. Unfortunatly growth rates do stall as many huge arrogant corportions can attest to.

No company is bullet proof, even Verizon. Nokia is not doing bad at all despite their refusal to go with the flow. They are still the biggest seller of phones and is turning around.....Perhaps even mighty Verizon can learn a lesson before they need to!

But this is one voice and I represent only myself and that does not really matter I suppose because again, Verizon is the or soon will be the biggest, if not the friendliest carrier.
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85percent

Jun 8, 2004, 12:54 PM
kingfrog77 said:
One has issues with them.....their arrogance as well as yours is undeserved.....


Please explain how us Verizon Sales reps are arrogant, and whatever you consider 'arrogant', please explain how our success is undeserved.


-Verizon Wireless Sales

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kingfrog77

Jun 8, 2004, 9:30 PM
By arrogance, well see above for an example.."40 million can't be wrong" That may be a rep or fan-boy but it seems fitting for Verizon.......

The attiude is not the same as with the other services when shopping for a carrier. I have been to numerous kiosks and questioned about pricing and value for the added cost.I question why Verizon does not have the 'middle" plan all the other carriers have. Just regional and national. The answers I recieved in every location were "Verizon is the leader" and "yes it is more expensive and has less plan options but the coverage is the best" (Not to my coworkers here in Atlantic City from Las Vegas) and they are worth more because they are better and use the fact that they have the most customers as evi...
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85percent

Jun 9, 2004, 1:58 PM
kingfrog77 said:
By arrogance, well see above for an example.."40 million can't be wrong" That may be a rep or fan-boy but it seems fitting for Verizon.......

The attiude is not the same as with the other services when shopping for a carrier. I have been to numerous kiosks and questioned about pricing and value for the added cost.I question why Verizon does not have the 'middle" plan all the other carriers have. Just regional and national. The answers I recieved in every location were "Verizon is the leader" and "yes it is more expensive and has less plan options but the coverage is the best" (Not to my coworkers here in Atlantic City from Las Vegas) and they are worth more because they are better and use the fact tha
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chris_lt1

Jun 9, 2004, 2:26 PM
85percent said:
I'm going to bring this argument back to the car comparison. When you walk into a BMW dealership and a Honda dealership, there is a different attitude you receive from each place. Arrogance? maybe a little. Why? because I'm sure you'd have more pride selling BMW's than Honda's (besides the pay), if you believe in and become interested in what you sell, there's a big attitude difference. 😉


-Verizon Wireless Sales

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well put, I just dont have the tact to deal with people like Kingfrog. It's like dealing with a 2 year old

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kingfrog77

Jun 9, 2004, 8:52 PM
YOu make good points indeed. But I once worked for a company that was top in it's field. The salespeople were arrogant and filled with "pride." Proudly driving their Lexuses and Beemers.

They were working for the best. No doubt. The company's product became a verb it was so popular and stong. All that arrogance and pride killed the company as Xerox is now a runnur up to all the lesser companies that stole customers away with humility and more than that value.Xerox was more expensive because it was a Xerox....and every business had one or twenty. I know this is hard for you to believe but there are many examples in business where this is evidant. Apple Computer. IBM.AOL.....Many innovators, now less then half of what they were. Even Micro...
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Biggs

Jun 10, 2004, 12:32 AM
"And like Icarus, they sought to fly too high. And their wings were burned by the sun."
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SPCSVZWJeff

Jun 10, 2004, 1:55 AM
Kind of a reach there isn't it? When VZW's ARPU (Average Revenue Per Unit)is not the highest in the industry how can one carp about value? ATTWS has ARPU higher than VZW.
ATTWS could say that their high ARPU is that they have a lot of high using business customers that drive it up. This is interesting when VZW has the most business customers followed by Nextel with ATTWS third.

VZW is investing way more back into their network than any other carrier except maybe for Sprint.

VZW is not throwing out 3000 minutes for $49.99 like T-Mobile is but VZW customers can make calls all over the local area. T-Mo is finished within 5-10 miles of the Interstate 5 corridor.

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kingfrog77

Jun 10, 2004, 3:25 AM
I would bet nationwide more people buy clothes at Wal Mart. Value is about bang for the buck!
I am not part of the exclusive club who's self worth and worth of others is represented and judged by a label or measured in dollars.

From what I have read the GSM network world wide has 4X the users as CDMA.(200 million vs 50 million) That speaks loudly to me since GSM is the newer technology. The carriers on the "Wal Mart" GSM networks have many more customers world wide as well and will get better. Im not surprised you would compare those "lesser" carriers with Wal Mart as if it were beneath you.

Cingular is a great value and has good enough coverage for many. Here in Atlantic City there's no value for Verizon customers...and that fro...
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jhmlbrgr

Jun 10, 2004, 7:55 AM
I do not really see the added value in Cingular that you speak of, not nationwide. There may be in some cities, I will admit that. But Cingular's prices are almost identical to VZW's prices. They give you a few more minutes, but their coverage area is not as large and their customer service is average at best. If it works better where you live and travel then by all means go with them. Consumer Reports testing showed that VZW work the best in the 12 cities that they tested nation wide. VZW also constantly receives the highest customer service scores in the industry, that should factor into your value equation somewhere.

Also regarding GSM vs. CDMA, GSM is actually the older technology, hence the reason why it has more users nation...
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kingfrog77

Jun 10, 2004, 11:58 AM
I do not feel that what VZW has is arrogance it is pride. Are you more likely to buy from a sales rep who says we have the best product or from a sales rep who says our product is OK, I guess it is pretty good. 99% of people are going to buy from the salesman who is confident in and proud of what they are selling.


Verizon sales reps lead you to believe there are NO dead areas and have the best coverage. The latter IS true but it seems in largeer populated areas they have their fair share of droppouts and coverage issues. So their "larger" coverage area seems to be in areas where few travel or need coverage, lke back roads in Montana or Louisiana.

I think Verizon is probably the best choice for an OTR truck
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chris_lt1

Jun 10, 2004, 12:08 PM
Kingfrog, please dont preach to us, you're not going to sell me on buying a trailer or busted down yugo and a phone with 1 billion minutes for $2/mo because its cheap, I will buy the best of the best regardless of price.....why, you ask?......because I can afford to pay a little more for the added luxuries
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SPCSVZWJeff

Jun 10, 2004, 1:27 PM
kingfrog77 said:

Samsung is the only brand I'd buy there. I don't know why they don't have Motorola. They get good ratings and is the phone of choice right now on other boards here. Verizon tells me they are buggy...I think its a way to gloss over the better prices they get from the likes of Audiovox. Mots aren't cheap, and they are not as bad as one would read on this paticular Carrier's forum.


Obviously you don't read the issues of CDMA carriers. GSM is a cheap technology which is easy to mass manufacture phones for.
In CDMA there are 2 types of phones; those with the Qualcomm chipset and those which have problems. Motorola has chosen to not use the Qualcomm chipset and so they are very
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kingfrog77

Jun 10, 2004, 8:48 PM
I read the issues but the ratings are over all pretty good here and at CNET re Motorola and Nokia. If Im on the road and I need an accessory I can go anywhere and get MOT and NOK accessories. Not true with Audiovox, and Kyocera. Its funny considering the huge customer base of Verizon I have not really heard much or even seen those brands. I understand the cost factor though and figured as such becasuse of the decoding technology and QCON's propietary chip.

But you have answered a question for me never the less. I have nevr had an issue with Motorola and Nokia the only brands I have used with ATT for the past 8 or so years. MAny people shop for phones first then a carrier. I found myself doing the same here. I picked my phone of choice an...
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robbie0517

Jun 16, 2004, 7:04 PM
5 hours of signal issues on a 23 hour drive is horrible and unexceptable. I just took a trip which was 26 hours each way. I drove a different route home then I did on the way there. With my Verizon Wireless phone I had Zero deadspots. I appreciated this. I believe you may have a different view of your carrier if next time you take your trip you are broken down and stranded somewhere in the middle of one of the excessive deadspots.
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kingfrog77

Jun 16, 2004, 9:32 PM
I doubt it. I have had ATT for years and drive from Las Vegas to Branson Mo twice a year. I know where there is no signal though on that route and it does not make me the least bit nervous like yourself. Jeeze, for 100 years people drove without mobile phone technology in much less reliable cars and not too many people were found on the side of the road dead in their cars! LOL
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I will tell you what I cannot live with. I can't live with not having reliable service at my destination and in this case it's Atlantic City NJ and there are not many happy Verizon customers here! If a company advertises the best coverage I would hope they have coverage in the major destination spots where other carriers have great coverage. That would be the lea...
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muchdrama

Jun 10, 2004, 10:42 AM
kingfrog77 said:
I would bet nationwide more people buy clothes at Wal Mart. Value is about bang for the buck!
I am not part of the exclusive club who's self worth and worth of others is represented and judged by a label or measured in dollars.

From what I have read the GSM network world wide has 4X the users as CDMA.(200 million vs 50 million) That speaks loudly to me since GSM is the newer technology. The carriers on the "Wal Mart" GSM networks have many more customers world wide as well and will get better. Im not surprised you would compare those "lesser" carriers with Wal Mart as if it were beneath you.

Cingular is a great value and has good enough coverage for many. Here in Atlantic City there's no value
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kingfrog77

Jun 10, 2004, 11:45 AM
Since when is a conformist one who buys labels for labels sake? I surely do not live in your world!

In answer to the Cingular question. They offer 450 plus roll over (which I believe is a good value as you paid for the minutes and have your year's contract to use them) There is no roaming and nights begin at 7PM for $47.00. I like the SIM based phones and the European use of the phone.

The technology with both GSM/CDMA has its plus and minuses. In fact Im not so against CDMA as I think Sprint has a better option than Verizon with their Pay as you go flex plan. (I think Sprint might share towers with Verizon as well)If I were to go with Sprint it would be because of the flex plan and 7PM nights. That seems a much better value for CDMA ...
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SPCSVZWJeff

Jun 10, 2004, 1:10 PM
kingfrog77 said:

All Carriers have coverage issues, but that is a temporary situation at best and GSM/TDMA will surpass CDMA at some point.It may have already with the ATT/Cingular deal. I believe in the LONG term since GSM is still new and being built out once the R&D is paid for the prices will fall below CDMA carrier rates as well.
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SPCSVZWJeff

Jun 10, 2004, 1:20 PM
kingfrog77 said:

All Carriers have coverage issues, but that is a temporary situation at best and GSM/TDMA will surpass CDMA at some point.It may have already with the ATT/Cingular deal. I believe in the LONG term since GSM is still new and being built out once the R&D is paid for the prices will fall below CDMA carrier rates as well.


🤭 Hit the submit button befor I was ready to sorry.
I don't believe you have been tracking the industry as well as you would like.

GSM is only a stepping stone for Cingular/ATTWS to WCDMA. WCDMA is very problem prone but the arrogance of the EU won't allow for the implementation of CDMA2000.

Even in Europe GSM's days are numbered. THe European governments hav...
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kingfrog77

Jun 10, 2004, 1:24 PM
You are right about that. I have only been researching for a few weeks. i started at the sales kiosks and were turned off immediatly and began using the net and forums...thats where i am now and I need to learn a lot more before making a commitment Im sure.
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SPCSVZWJeff

Jun 10, 2004, 1:37 PM
Mr.Kingfrog77,
I hope that my replies don't in any way make you feel insulted or belittled. You are just like most people looking for reality in this messed up industry. Sales reps are for the most part very uninformed. I am one so I can say this and cast stones at my own colleagues.
Keep looking and reading.
I am amazed at the things I have heard when I shop the competition. Things like:
"Verizon will soon be switching to GSM"
"Sprint doesn't even support text messaging"
"T-Mobile customers roam free on Verizon's network so it doesn't matter"
"Sprint's network always crashes." etc. etc. etc.
I don't shop Verizon or Sprint reps but I hear some humdingers in my store which I am forced to correct.

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85percent

Jun 10, 2004, 6:24 PM
SPCSVZWJeff said:
Mr.Kingfrog77,
I hope that my replies don't in any way make you feel insulted or belittled. You are just like most people looking for reality in this messed up industry. Sales reps are for the most part very uninformed. I am one so I can say this and cast stones at my own colleagues.

I don't shop Verizon or Sprint reps but I hear some humdingers in my store which I am forced to correct.
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hey hey.. 👿

Sales reps in my area actually correct the customer service reps with information the majority of the time. I have no intent on making commission by helping people in this forum, however I do so on my own accord.

-Verizon Wireless Sales

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kingfrog77

Jun 10, 2004, 8:40 PM
My issue was with the condecending "how dare you question Verizon attitude" I sensed from three different stores and/or kiosks. I thought it was a corporate mandate...

My questions to Verizon now are

How much as a percentage is analog in Verizon's vasy netwok?

Why doesn't Verizon use mainstream phones from Nokia and Motorola?

The answer I always recive on this one is Motorola is buggy and Verizon wants to ensure all thins will be perfect..how ever I would rather hear Nokia and Motorola are focused on GSM becasue Nokia is a European company andor Motorola feels they can get a better price for their phones from GSM carriers selling bells and whistles to teenagers. That seems more plausable. If it were not for the Samsung V680 I w...
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SPCSVZWJeff

Jun 10, 2004, 1:04 PM
No my friend. You miss the point entirely. People go to WalMart because it is cheap and because in many places it is the only game in town. It is not about the BMW/Mercedes crowd vs. the chevy crowd. It is not about class. Value is not all about mega stuff for mini bucks. It is about a fair price for the service rendered. Verizon has roughly 40 million customers and at the rate they are growing will have a larger customer base than the combined Cingular/ATTWS company by the time the FCC approves the buyout.
These 40 million customers chose Verizon because they felt it was a great value, not because their arm was twisted. I have represented several wireless carriers and Verizon customers don't mind signing a new 2 year agreement by and large...
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kingfrog77

Jun 10, 2004, 1:21 PM
Well thats why I am here. To get information to add to my confusion.....

Im not an analog fan due to battery life....But its seeming analog is the highway signa;...I don't really know but Im reading the forums and seeking information. The biggest issue with Verizon is really not the sales but the phones for me. I like Mot and Nokia. Samsung is the only real choice as far as I can see there.

With $5.00 internet, Verizon is bette than the $15 Sprint offering. But I use a phone for calling mostly, not pictures or the other fluff like ringtones, screen savers etc.

I suppose I'll keep reading and make a choice soon. Time is on my side and I kind of like the M2M service as I do have options.
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85percent

Jun 10, 2004, 6:15 PM
kingfrog77 said:
I would bet nationwide more people buy clothes at Wal Mart. Value is about bang for the buck!
I am not part of the exclusive club who's self worth and worth of others is represented and judged by a label or measured in dollars.

From what I have read the GSM network world wide has 4X the users as CDMA.(200 million vs 50 million) That speaks loudly to me since GSM is the newer technology. The carriers on the "Wal Mart" GSM networks have many more customers world wide as well and will get better. Im not surprised you would compare those "lesser" carriers with Wal Mart as if it were beneath you.

Cingular is a great value and has good enough coverage for many. Here in Atlantic City there's no value
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larryboy0637

Jun 10, 2004, 6:43 PM
I am not sure if anyone else feels this way. But when you keep talking about wal-mart clothes VS. name brand or BMW VS. Honda. Thing is there are plenty of people out there that are on a budget, I am one of them. I look for good service but I also have to look at price. It seems to me that you guys are talking down to people with budgets. People do not always have $10 extra dollars to spend on cell phone plans every month to get "supieror service" as you all say. just the attitude of these comments so far have been saying to me "Verizon does not care if you are on a budget" Yes people go to wal-mart to buy clothes, yes some people buy used cars (honda's chevy's) I do not think we should be talked down to. I can go to a honda dealer or chevy ...
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kingfrog77

Jun 10, 2004, 8:53 PM
I kind of got that same impression, although I can afford to buy a BMW and buy clothes at Nordstrom, I choose not to. But I am not in the "rat race" world anymore where those things carry a lot of weight and personal judgement. Nor do I choose to associate with people who are still trying to have it all......There is a great sense of freedom that comes with letting all that go. But no more corporate jobs for me! Left Xerox years ago and never looked back..no targets, budgets, or ulcers!

I wish I would have learned that lesson sooner in life..but Im 47...many don't unlock the golden handcuffs till much later in life!!
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TakeNoPrisoners

Jun 10, 2004, 7:05 PM
You know how it is! I'm glad there someone here who has his act together!!!! 😁 😁
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Biggs

Jun 10, 2004, 7:08 PM
I wouldn't use the clothes comparison. It doesn't work here. If Walmart clothes had holes in them and were dirty, would you still buy them because they're cheaper? Well that's comparable to our competetitors. You pay less with them, you get less. 😛

Just because we may not have the best reception in Atlantic city, doesn't mean that stands true for us across the country.

If Verizon Wireless doesn't work for you in your area, then it doesn't make sense for you to use our service, let alone hang around our forum day after day to complain about it.


-Verizon Wireless Sales

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Every once in a while,85, you say something like this that is so true and to the point. I Applaud you here once again.
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kingfrog77

Jun 10, 2004, 9:06 PM
Aand you attitude is total representation of most Verizon sales reps....

I would not consider ATT dirty cloths with holes or Cingular or Sprint for that matter. That statement is out of line and sheds no information on why Verizon is the better choice. Bashing competition is the worse thing to do when selling. i don't think they teach that at Verizon school though, it seems thats all they know. becasue they can't sell their lackluster phones and mega analog service.....Don't convince one to buy Verizon by knockiing other carriers. Prove why Verizon is a better teconolgy with fact and useful information!

I know many of your customers are unhappy GSM owners and they feed that fire....but many are also buying for the first time and or see...
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SPCSVZWJeff

Jun 10, 2004, 11:52 PM
Maybe the analogies I have used are faulty.
Every company competes with its greatest asset, and where the asset isn't equal to competition they compete with discounts. At least this is what business schools teach.

ATTWS collects more from every customer than any other provider including Nextel. They don't advertise discounts as a brand position so they have felt pretty good about their offering until lately.

T-Mobile and Cingular hype price on every ad so I take it they aren't confident that their network and their customer service are attributes that can they can compete with.

ATTWS, Cingular, T-Mo, Dobson and the Europeans have just begun the conversion that VZW, Sprint and KDDI have completed.
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jhmlbrgr

Jun 11, 2004, 6:58 AM
KingFrog,
The fact is that you have been given the facts and choose not to listen to them.

Fact -- In February Consumer Reports published their testing of cellular phones and VZW rated #1 in each of the 12 cities where they did their testing. No other carrier was that consistent in every city.

Fact -- Consumer Reports in that same issue also rated VZW as the customer service in the industry based on their consumer survey.

Fact -- J.D. Powers and Associates has awarded VZW as the top customer service in the cellular industry.

Fact -- Wall Street Journal, New York Times, Washington Post, Boston Globe have all published articles stating that VZW is the best cellular provider in the country.

Fact -- Latest American ...
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kingfrog77

Jun 11, 2004, 11:59 AM
I appreciate The time and effort you made to inform me of what many in the industry speak about Verizon and this is why I am here.

I have been reading about the internet portion of the cellular services and understand the 2.5G 3G issue. Although I do not use the web based services much I am curious about the EVDO replacement of WiFi, cable and DSL I have read.

I have also read though WiFI in the urban centers will end up sapping the market for 3G services.

Realize I have no issue with Verizon services. My experience with Verizon has come only through the representatives which I felt could have done a better job at selling rather than defending.

The fact that most people use Verizon does worry me a little in terms of the user p...
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85percent

Jun 11, 2004, 4:09 PM
kingfrog77 said:
Aand you attitude is total representation of most Verizon sales reps....

I would not consider ATT dirty cloths with holes or Cingular or Sprint for that matter. That statement is out of line and sheds no information on why Verizon is the better choice. Bashing competition is the worse thing to do when selling. i don't think they teach that at Verizon school though, it seems thats all they know. becasue they can't sell their lackluster phones and mega analog service.....Don't convince one to buy Verizon by knockiing other carriers. Prove why Verizon is a better teconolgy with fact and useful information!


I don't knock other carriers, I don't need to. But you kept asking, "why do you have...
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Idra82

Jun 10, 2004, 9:27 AM
Bravoo!!!!!!!
I like that.
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muchdrama

Jun 10, 2004, 10:33 AM
kingfrog77 said:

I personally would not have more "pride" selling a BMW over a Honda as I don't buy into that world. If Im a good salesperson I would have equal pride selling whatever I am making my living selling...any more than that is snobbery and arrogance and theres no place for that in sales over the long run.
Obviously you haven't heard the phrase "human nature".
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Biggs

Jun 10, 2004, 12:19 AM
Now here I can agree with you. And to note; the "Rolls Royce" example is used in many sales techniques, and certainly applies here. 😁
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chris_lt1

Jun 9, 2004, 2:23 PM
kingfrog77 said:
By arrogance, well see above for an example.."40 million can't be wrong" That may be a rep or fan-boy but it seems fitting for Verizon.......

The attiude is not the same as with the other services when shopping for a carrier. I have been to numerous kiosks and questioned about pricing and value for the added cost.I question why Verizon does not have the 'middle" plan all the other carriers have. Just regional and national. The answers I recieved in every location were "Verizon is the leader" and "yes it is more expensive and has less plan options but the coverage is the best" (Not to my coworkers here in Atlantic City from Las Vegas) and they are worth more because they are better and use the fact tha
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SPCSVZWJeff

Jun 7, 2004, 6:43 PM
Keep in mind the problems associated with putting two former competitors together.
Chances are service will suffer before it gets better. In many markets this is what happened to Verizon. there were problems and growing pains. They are on the other side of this now and are an excellent almost seamless network.
The combined Cingular/ATTWS company will most likely suffer from capacity issues since they are committed to GSM. Capacity issues will intensify when they attempt to roll out WCDMA.
For a GSM carrier the absolute worst thing is to oversell their network capacity. They may have the same exodus that ATTWS has now over an extended period of time and like DoCoMo in Japan get a serious black eye in the public's opinion of them.
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85percent

Jun 5, 2004, 3:22 AM
Dataquest said:
But it seems that T-mobile is best for picture sending because when you send them, they go right where you want them to go, not to a website where the receiving person gets a link to the picture and has to get it through the link, which is a pain in the butt. Sprint does it this way.
I'm not sure how AT&T does it yet. I dont like the fact that Verizon charges airtime too, when sending pictures though. Anyway, to cut it short, which carrier would you people recommend for a camera phone service. I would appreciate the info.


Verizon and Sprint both use CDMA. Although, because we are able to spend the money on a more enhanced data network (VZW), we have. (1XRTT, EVDO). As far as how the pict...
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Dataquest

Jun 5, 2004, 11:52 AM
Yes, thank you that did help. That sounds good,too. I am glad to hear that is is that fast to send pictures and that they go directly to wherever they are sent. I appreciate your fast and detailed response. Have a good day.
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badsky2k

Jun 8, 2004, 1:16 PM
Being a former CSR for AT&T I went with Verizon when I left AT&T and had to start paying for my cell service. What does that tell you. BTW, I worked as a CSR for over 4 years!
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