Maybe your a**
Not mine!

🤣 good one, I just cant even consider suxular....glad it works for you

Just Go on the web and pull up the coverage maps for all the major carriers,(and we'll for the sake of reality call this estimated coverage.) remember this is the Avertised coverage so truth be told the maps tell it all. I've even get one or two new customers a month who were refered to Verizon from other carriers because they couln't offer the over all coverage needed, and yes even verizon has it's dead spots but theirs are far fewer than most.

I've always opined that there is no "BEST" wireless carrier. Do some research, and go with the one that works "BEST" for you. In my case, that is Verizon Wireless.

Ok, really, Verizon does have the BEST coverage. If you loose a call or don't have signal in an area, it is probably because no one does. My phone works EVERYWHERE that I go. If you know that they have the coverage, then why would you want to switch? You are mad because cingular doesn't have the coverage, but what is it that makes you want to leave verizon?

Never said Verizon had the "Best" coverage just better than most. I totally agree with you on that one.

Its really this easy.

You wanna see the real networks.

View the pre-paid coverage maps for each carrier. That will show the native network, without roaming partner support.

Largest native network, it Aint VZW, Cingular, Sprint/Nextel, or T-Mobile.

Its Altell, if you are going by geographical coverage.

Bet that suprised most people. But other companies claim largest digital network, etc. Because they do it in different ways. Some by carried owned operated areas population, etc.

Wireless is really a marketing game if anything. I swear it is worse than lawyers the way things can be spun.

Point in case.

"Cingular has the largest high speed data network in the US"

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All that is a waste because of the crack head UI and crippled Bluetooth. When I buy a piece of equipment I don't want its use limited by verizon. They are to controlling.

I don't like being told what I can do 🤣

I don't agree with their policies but the seem to have a winning forumla at the moment. At from the sales side I can tell you that most of America is techno-phobic still, and that doesn't mean crap to most people.

And it is a free country, you have a choice, but with choices come consequences and tradeoffs, like coverage/ clarity / dropped calls / and customer service.

So is is the red pill or the blue pill, friend?

www.bpvwebdesigns.com said:

So is is the red pill or the blue pill, friend?

I agree, verizon is good at what they do. I'm not sure what the blue pill is. I'm not going to make a rush judgement. I just wish verizon would at least give the option of flashing the orginal UI back.

Amen, to that brother. 😉

My best solution at the moment is to flash the device to the Alltell or U.S. Cellular firmware if they carry the same model. Then perfom seems edits, etc.

Alot of work though, right?

ArmySF said:

www.bpvwebdesigns.com said:

So is is the red pill or the blue pill, friend?

I agree, verizon is good at what they do. I'm not sure what the blue pill is. I'm not going to make a rush judgement. I just wish verizon would at least give the option of flashing the orginal UI back.

Through all of this complaining, I must ask:

Have you considered getting a smartphone (treo or other PDA phone)? I too do not like the UI (except on LG's) as it seems to cause most phones to lag, but, I have determined that I can still avoid it, if need be, and still stay with Verizon by getting a treo.

Have you ever considered the network may work the best because of the way the phones run?

"I don't like being told what I can do 🤣"

Why are you in the military then?

There is something you should keep in mind though, if you choose the blade I believe that it's an all digital phone and you couldn't take advantage of Sprint roaming agreement 🙂

Wait - Sprint roams onto Verizon for free? And their plans are cheaper? What's the catch? Why aren't we there?

ever try to call custoemr care 😲
Verizon, hit *611 then press 0 when the recording comes on, you will have help on the other line within a minute!

Sprint, well the last time i called their customer care it took at leaste 10 minutes for a person to pick up and they spoke very limited english.

vx8100nyc said:
Wait - Sprint roams onto Verizon for free? And their plans are cheaper? What's the catch? Why aren't we there?

The catch is know more then half your minuts can be used roaming on verizon. But if most of your calls are within Sprint network and sometimes you need to roam, its not a bad deal.
It will require a dual band sprint phone tho 🙂

All CDMA carriers have roaming agreements, but Sprints coverage will never EVER come close to comparing to Verizon's. Just like Verizon will never compare to Alltel. Alltel is the Lexus, Verizon is the Nissan, and Sprint.... That is like Kia....

Alltel serves mostly rural markets, and most of it is in the 800 band, with some 1900 band coverage. But I wouldn't consider Alltel the Lexus when I have had trouble with their network in Michigan. I had to deal with a lot of static and dropped calls. Plus portions of their network is still analog. There are areas that Alltel does great at, but Michigan is not one of those states. I have yet to try out their network in Wisconsin, but I would have to be in the northern half of Wisconsin, as most of the Verizon roaming agreements in the southern half of Wisconsin are with US Cellular, outside of Milwaukee & Madison markets. I don't know if I ever roamed on Sprint yet, but I have on US Cellular around Logansport Indiana and it's great. I...
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You can't roam onto VZW coverage unless there is no Sprint coverage, and even then VZW might not be the next one in the list on the PRL.

PRL - Preferred Roaming List

That means that the phone has a specific order of networks it looks for. The first always being native coverage (Sprint). No matter how weak the signal is, it will struggle to its death to stay on that network. Then, if it can't it will look at the PRL to see if the company has a roaming agreement in the zone you are at with another company. Keep in mind that companies do not make roaming agreements in areas they already operate out of.

babygirl7282 said:
Okay that is definately wrong!Verizon coverage is 10,000 times better than sprints. Carry the 2. I have! U have to get the best 2 phones, I have with all carriers. Verizon is by far better than sprint.

You can't say verizon is 10,000 times better then Sprint, it's just not possible. It's like saying you're going to give 110 percent at this weekends softball game. The most you can give is 100 percent. So you could say Verizon is 100 percent better then Sprint, but even that would be a reach 🙂

All CDMA carriers have roaming agreements, but Sprints coverage will never EVER come close to comparing to Verizon's. Just like Verizon will never compare to Alltel. Alltel is the Lexus, Verizon is the Nissan, and Sprint.... That is like Kia........

Allwho?

Hmmmmm. I happen to have a magazine that is probably only about 6 months old wehre they compared Cell Phone Carriers and coverage and had fold outs of all of the maps (roaming agreements, analog, etc.).

Alltel wasnt even listed. I had an Alltel Prepaid phone thru Simple Freedome once before. WHenever I made an error in calling it would come up with a recording from Verizon.

Verizon's coverage map was by FAR the most complete of any other carrier in the U.S. Cingular was not far behind.

Alltel wasnt even mentioned because it is NOT a national carrier.

alltel technically has the largest netwrok, however very little of it is their native network and that little is known for it's quality. They have the most roaming agreements and the largest extended network making their national maps huge, even though you will be on extended network most of the time you are still covered phone wise, data and digital is another issue. Alltels map is basically the same as Verizon's old national single rate map that included basically all cdma and analog networks. Verizon has trimmed their down and dropped some of their roamning agrements with some smaller regioanl networks especially ones still relyiing on analog, where alltel still uses them. So alltel does offer the largest national mao, however they also r...
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yeahright said:
alltel technically has the largest netwrok, however very little of it is their native network and that little is known for it's quality. They have the most roaming agreements and the largest extended network making their national maps huge, even though you will be on extended network most of the time you are still covered phone wise, data and digital is another issue. Alltels map is basically the same as Verizon's old national single rate map that included basically all cdma and analog networks. Verizon has trimmed their down and dropped some of their roamning agrements with some smaller regioanl networks especially ones still relyiing on analog, where alltel still uses them. So alltel does offer the large

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Verizon will never compare to Alltel???? That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard of. Get real! Most people have never even heard of Alltel.

That is because Alltel is a regional carrier and has not made the expansion yet to be National.
Please check with your boss or the internet before you start your next thread. You will find out that Alltel has the largest Network of ALL CELLULAR Phone companies.
Alltel and Verizon roam on each others network to help one another out. If Verizon and Alltel stopped sharing towers tomorrow, Alltel would lose about 34% of its current coverage map. Verizon would lose about 53% of its current coverage map. Verizon needs Alltel much worse than Alltel needs Verizon. Oh - and compare stock prices. Verizon $32.41 / Alltel $61.90..... You decide who is the better, stronger company...

If Verizon and Alltel stopped sharing towers tomorrow, Alltel would lose about 34% of its current coverage map. Verizon would lose about 53% of its current coverage map.
You have a link for that info? I think your very misinformed. MB

Really? I didn't realize VZW was a publicly traded company. Before you start ranting and raving about things, get a clue. You are comparing Verizon Communications to Alltel you idiot.

I refuse to waste my time even responding to your "network numbers". VZW does not depend on Alltel for over half of their coverage.

Again, you're an idiot.

Cellular Dude said:
That is because Alltel is a regional carrier and has not made the expansion yet to be National.
Please check with your boss or the internet before you start your next thread. You will find out that Alltel has the largest Network of ALL CELLULAR Phone companies.
Alltel and Verizon roam on each others network to help one another out. If Verizon and Alltel stopped sharing towers tomorrow, Alltel would lose about 34% of its current coverage map. Verizon would lose about 53% of its current coverage map. Verizon needs Alltel much worse than Alltel needs Verizon. Oh - and compare stock prices. Verizon $32.41 / Alltel $61.90..... You decide who is the better, stronger company...

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since verizon wireless doesnt have a stock, and verizon and vodafone owns 100 percent of verizon wireless you have to add vod's stock price also. so vod and vz= 21+33= 54. AT= 61.90. i would rather own vodafone and verizon together then own AT, becuase AT is going to be spinning off their wireline business and off of technical stuff (which i wont get into regarding stocks and valuation) they arent worth that price becuase they are pure wireless player. (sprint/nextel) will be a pure wireless plapyer and they are only at 23.99. so AT isnt worth 61.90 becuase AT isnt better then Sprint/nextel.

by the way, you cant see based on stock price which is a better company, becuase it is about valuation and other metrics.

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While, when looking at a map of even native coverage, Alltel appears to have a vast geographic network, in actual tower count; Alltel and d/b/a Accucom have approximately 1400 native towers. Verizon and parent partnership group, Cellco, have over 4000 native towers.

It's a matter of geography vs. density. Verizon has a very large network that tends to focus on larger populations but also extends further away from the metro areas than other national carriers.

Alltel is a regional carrier and does what the regionals do, provides more rural service than the nationals. This is not a bad thing because the larger carriers can use this niche and the regionals can stand to make a few bucks from it.

It's a funny arguement that needs to be pu...
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