reception between verizon and cingular - no flaming please
please explain the following.
i live in riverdale NY. the reception outside, on the street, is good with several verizon phones and 2 friends cingular. when i try to use the phones in my appartment building or a local school (ps81), verizon starts to get poor voice quality, drop calls, or no signal. cingular works perfectly. i was told by verizon CS that i have a verizon cell tower about .5 miles from me. why is there such a difference.
any ideas???
i live in riverdale NY. the reception outside, on the street, is good with several verizon phones and 2 friends cingular. when i try to use the phones in my appartment building or a local school (ps81), verizon starts to get poor voice quality, drop calls, or no signal. cingular works perfectly. i was told by verizon CS that i have a verizon cell tower about .5 miles from me. why is there such a difference.
any ideas???
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IT DEPENDS ON WHAT FREQUENCY BAND THAT TOWER FOR VERIZON IS RUNNIG ON. IF IT IS IN THE CELLULAR BAND 850/900 MHZ, IT WILLWORK BETTER INDOORS, IF IT IS ON TH PCS BAND 1900 MHZ YOU WILLHAVE PROBLESN INDOORS
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how do i know what freq. the tower is using? how can i use my phone to find out. i have a samsung 950 and an lg7000. i had 3 different lg6100 phones but they droped called on a regular basis.
thanks
thanks
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lg7k and Samsung950 are all digital phones, meaning if you have an analog tower in ur area they will get semi-cruddy reception anyways. As for the 6100 I have heard it gets poor reception. The lg 6000 was the good one of that bunch. Also, since the Samsung 950 has an internal antenna at the top base if you cover it with your hand/fingers it will sometime throw off reception (one of the reasons I always suggest the Lg 8100 over the Samsung 950) As for the twoer gfreq. your best bet is prolly to call customer care, and find out, if you foubnd out the tower was within .5 miles of your where abouts, finding its frequency should not be much harder.
Hope it helps.
Hope it helps.
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i used to have an lg4400 (analog and digital) phone and it also had problems so i don't think its an analog issue. when i use my 950 at work, indoors, it works well so i don't think its a phone issue. i might research about the frequency but i don't see how that can help since verizon won't do anything to change the frequency.
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Yeah I currently have an Lg 4400 through work for free, and it does well IMHO. Sometime on the open roads driving it takes a few seconds to connect, but no dropped calls as of yet. Even though Verizon cannot/will not hange your frequency you may be able to talk to a rep to find out which Phone works best in that kind of freq, and maybe exchange phones (pending timee u have had this one bla blah) Good luck, hope our advice helped, and btw let us know what you find out, the freq change has interested me, and may help me keep the customers I sell to happier by giving them phones more liekly to work in there specified area. Normally when I know they live in a HOLE for reception I just suggest a Tri-Mode phone. Thanx, and ur welcome.
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It could also be the phone. Some phones get better reception indoors than others. My friend had a moto phone and I have an LG phone, both are tri-mode, yet indoors mine always gets a better signal. 😉
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that is true as well, motorolas do not work well iwth the Lucent switches in the NY area
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Some reasons that reception is weak in your home can be because of the material of the building, cell tower relation to building and any elevation change or trees or buildings in the way.
Someone made a reference in regards to frequency; yes frequency matters--> lower frequency works better indoors. To tell what frequency your phone is picking up just look at the symbol next to the bars of signal strength; a 1X is the higher frequency and a D is lower. If you live in a well populated city more than likely you will see a the 1X, it goes to D if 1X is not available or the settings have been altered.
In regards to phones; yes some work better than others in buildings. However, it comes down to the building material, cell site relation to ...
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Someone made a reference in regards to frequency; yes frequency matters--> lower frequency works better indoors. To tell what frequency your phone is picking up just look at the symbol next to the bars of signal strength; a 1X is the higher frequency and a D is lower. If you live in a well populated city more than likely you will see a the 1X, it goes to D if 1X is not available or the settings have been altered.
In regards to phones; yes some work better than others in buildings. However, it comes down to the building material, cell site relation to ...
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schnozejt said:
Someone made a reference in regards to frequency; yes frequency matters--> lower frequency works better indoors. To tell what frequency your phone is picking up just look at the symbol next to the bars of signal strength; a 1X is the higher frequency and a D is lower. If you live in a well populated city more than likely you will see a the 1X, it goes to D if 1X is not available or the settings have been altered.
That is not entirely true. That is implying that 1X is only deployed in the 1900mhz band which is nowhere close to being true. My phone never goes to "D" and there is plenty of 850mhz 1X in my market.
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You're right. That person was totally wrong. Verizon's whole network is 1X.
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Ha ha ha ha ha, what a joke. Our whole network is 1X, ha ha ha ha ha.
Did you forget about analaog? 1x is for enhanced services and not everywhere in the US has 1X. We have maps that show 1x coverage-- try looking it up
Did you forget about analaog? 1x is for enhanced services and not everywhere in the US has 1X. We have maps that show 1x coverage-- try looking it up
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Verizon owns a 100% digital network. They do not own any analog networks.
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What?
That is not true at all.
Los Angeles in a perfect example. They support plenty on Analog on their own network across the country.
That is not true at all.
Los Angeles in a perfect example. They support plenty on Analog on their own network across the country.
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There is analog with roaming agreements but Verizon does not own any analog networks. Show me a map that says Verizon owns analog. The prepay map that Verizon has which is also the enhanced service area is the network that Verizon owns and it is all digital. Why would they have analog in LA anyway???
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Because they own the network from Pac-Tel/Airtouch. They have analog on those towers. Any former cellular network on which analog was deployed has not been shut down.
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schnozejt said:
Ha ha ha ha ha, what a joke. Our whole network is 1X, ha ha ha ha ha.
Did you forget about analaog? 1x is for enhanced services and not everywhere in the US has 1X. We have maps that show 1x coverage-- try looking it up
As far as I know, all of the Verizon owned network was digital (at least 1X if not EVDO). Areas that are not 1X are Verizon roaming partners and not Verizon native network. Am I wrong?
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I obtained that info from our internal files. That info is obtainted my network engineers who pass it to the web writers.
I will go ahead and let our network engineers know that they're wrong. Thank you for the info.
I will go ahead and let our network engineers know that they're wrong. Thank you for the info.
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schnozejt said:
I obtained that info from our internal files. That info is obtainted my network engineers who pass it to the web writers.
I will go ahead and let our network engineers know that they're wrong. Thank you for the info.
You go ahead and be a smart a$$ all you want. I was simply telling you that for your theory to be correct, I would have to have a "D" appear in place of the "1X" on my phone as my market has both 850mhz and 1900mhz 1X coverage. And my phone never switches from 1X to D. It is always 1X (and EVDO for that matter, which is also deployed in both bands) in my area.
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I'm not sure if I mentioned this in my original post, I thought I did. Your phone as well as all VZW phones will only show a D if 1X coverage is not available. If your phone always shows a 1X that doesn't mean that u don't have 2G service available to it.
I think there is a map on vzw.com that shows only 3G coverage, don't quote me though on that cause I might have been looking at an internal map.
I think there is a map on vzw.com that shows only 3G coverage, don't quote me though on that cause I might have been looking at an internal map.
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So manythings go into a good signal. Where Cingular has a better position, frequency or a lower customer usage count on that tower location, the fact is, that carrier is better in that specific location. Go down the block and the opposite is true.
Cell service is a radio signal and is subject to be affected by anything that might get in the way such as buiding materials etc.
The most forgotten aspect of FCC cell licensing is that the current license for Verizon in that location may not allow for Verizon to direct its signal to the extent it would want for that location. A cell tower, while capable may not be allowed to us its 360 degrees of service.
Depends on what other radio wave services are availabla in the area.
Funny, the b...
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Cell service is a radio signal and is subject to be affected by anything that might get in the way such as buiding materials etc.
The most forgotten aspect of FCC cell licensing is that the current license for Verizon in that location may not allow for Verizon to direct its signal to the extent it would want for that location. A cell tower, while capable may not be allowed to us its 360 degrees of service.
Depends on what other radio wave services are availabla in the area.
Funny, the b...
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