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"Is Verizon sliding into second, at the bottom of the 9th"?

Chapperal

Jul 6, 2004, 4:58 AM
I am a Vrz customer for the last 6 months. I have gone to our local central florida Verzion store, and never have any new info.
Their coverge maps haven't changed in the last 2 years. Their phones are expensive, and cheaply made.
I truly question the quality of their coverage in North Central Florida.
I had ATTWS 6 months ago, and ATTWS TDMA sounded much better and it's coverge in this area was better than VRZ and their voice quality on ATTWS TDMA was also better. I can't speak for GSM, though I have though of changing carrier when my contract is up.
Vrz keeps saying they are spending "tons" of money to make their service better. I don't see it in this area, or as they would say: "Can you hear you me now? Good". Well NOT so good....
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SPCSVZWJeff

Jul 6, 2004, 9:27 AM
Chapperal said:
I truly question the quality of their coverage in North Central Florida.
I had ATTWS 6 months ago, and ATTWS TDMA sounded much better and it's coverge in this area was better than VRZ and their voice quality on ATTWS TDMA was also better. I can't speak for GSM, though I have though of changing carrier when my contract is up.
Yes I have read consumer reports issue of Feb of 2004, and that is one of the reasons why I went from ATTWS to Verizon. Now I wished I hadn't switched.
You can argue this point forever, but it looks like CDMA is not that much better than TDMA/GSM. Actually in this area CDMA is WORSE.
T-Mobile or ATTWS/CINGULAR is looking better all the time.
Vrn needs to get over th
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phonepimp3376

Jul 6, 2004, 11:06 AM
14 towers in your market last year? Wow, is that all? Cingular put up over 400 in the Boston market last year. Where's all VZW's money they spend to expand their network going if they only put up 18 towers in your market...lol
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SPCSVZWJeff

Jul 6, 2004, 12:35 PM
If our market were a urban market with 4 million pops and VZW's coverage was lacking then 14 towers would be a drop in the bucket.
As it is we have about 350,000 pops and a lot of open space. 14 towers is very significant.
No one else provides service. ATTWS has not added a new tower in 5 years in this market. When Cingular owns this market it will discover that no amount of rollover minutes will compensate for the terrible network here. ATTWS once controlled this market and Airtouch was a bit part player. Now the market is owned by Verizon. People are chomping at the bit to replace ATTWS with VZW. Why? Because ATTWS doesn't care enough about their customers even to cover the entire city limits of the small metro.
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Dpruwm

Jul 6, 2004, 3:28 PM
400? I don't mean to sound nasty but I have never heard of 400 in a year. That's more than one a day. ONE A DAY!! I don't know that much about GSM towers, but I know they don't get the coverage that one cdma tower does. 400!!! I don't believe that for a second. There are so many things involved in putting up ONE tower that 400 would almost seem like god is helping cingular in some way. I would say they since boston is a huge market, they would focus their efforts, but correlating 2 a day sometimes in the same area? Sounds like gods handywork to me. LOL
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Idra82

Jul 6, 2004, 4:10 PM
🙂 Yeah, it sounds a little, just a little exaggerated, however it is possible. I believe in what phonepimp says.
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muchdrama

Jul 6, 2004, 6:58 PM
Idra82 said:
🙂 Yeah, it sounds a little, just a little exaggerated, however it is possible. I believe in what phonepimp says.
Oh great...this guy thinks Pimp's a prophet.
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Idra82

Jul 7, 2004, 10:16 AM
muchdrama said:
Idra82 said:
🙂 Yeah, it sounds a little, just a little exaggerated, however it is possible. I believe in what phonepimp says.
Oh great...this guy thinks Pimp's a prophet.


Hey Mr Dumbass! Do you think you know it all. I checked my database and compared it to what this guy, phonepimp said. Of course, I do not believe it can be possible in just quarter, but it is possible in a year.
Check your resources, IDIOT!! 🙄
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muchdrama

Jul 7, 2004, 12:53 PM
Idra82 said:
muchdrama said:
Idra82 said:
🙂 Yeah, it sounds a little, just a little exaggerated, however it is possible. I believe in what phonepimp says.
Oh great...this guy thinks Pimp's a prophet.


Hey Mr Dumbass! Do you think you know it all. I checked my database and compared it to what this guy, phonepimp said. Of course, I do not believe it can be possible in just quarter, but it is possible in a year.
Check your resources, IDIOT!! 🙄
Well, I shouldn't say I was expecting that reaction. And I wasn't suggesting you didn't know your stuff...I was referring to your creepy blind devotional verbiage.
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mycool

Jul 8, 2004, 6:20 PM
Umm, those probably were overlays (not new sites) in which case it isn't really putting up a tower, but upgrading the infrastructure they currently have. If that is the case, then so what?
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phonepimp3376

Jul 8, 2004, 6:24 PM
nope...not overlays... the Boston market was one of the FIRST GSM overlay markets... new towers from Maine to Jersey my friend... we have rolled out over 150 so far this year.
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Chapperal

Jul 6, 2004, 11:36 AM
Hey Jeff I read your thread and thank you for that info.
14 towers were put in your area. You wrote that it can take anywhere from 18 months to 6 years to install a tower. You must be joking, if Verizon does not start improving i this area, they will be loosing more sales. Most people here are not interested in how fast they can transfer data. They have cable internet here. They want phone service that will work where they live.
3 miles east from where I live there is no Verizon service. And just to the southeast, there a 20sq. mile area that Verizon also does not work. But when Verizon does work, it works very well. Except for voice quality, and I have used several different mfg's phones, still not as good as the TDMA was.
Mayb...
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Chapperal

Jul 6, 2004, 11:41 AM
When I wrote that last thread I was at work. When I went to proofread I may of left out a word or two. But you'll get the idea of what was written. (I should of proof read first)
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SPCSVZWJeff

Jul 6, 2004, 12:47 PM
No problem, buddy.
Honest questions and objections are welcome.
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SPCSVZWJeff

Jul 6, 2004, 12:44 PM
Could it also be that Verizon just acquired your market recently? It could also be PCS band because ATTWS is on the A band of cellular and Cingular is on the B band which leaves the PCS band. If so then they have not had adequate time to build out. At the rate they are building out now it won't be long. In FL it is different than in WA or OR. We have Greenpeace, EarthFirst! and the associated loonies that are anti-progress. Tower building in FL is probably easier because the governments are more tech friendly. Also FL is flat. My recommendation is patience and some calls to VZW. It may get some interest in new towers in the area. Maybe they will site a tower on your property and you will make some money and get free phone service.
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muchdrama

Jul 6, 2004, 12:51 PM
SPCSVZWJeff said:
Could it also be that Verizon just acquired your market recently? It could also be PCS band because ATTWS is on the A band of cellular and Cingular is on the B band which leaves the PCS band. If so then they have not had adequate time to build out. At the rate they are building out now it won't be long. In FL it is different than in WA or OR. We have Greenpeace, EarthFirst! and the associated loonies that are anti-progress. Tower building in FL is probably easier because the governments are more tech friendly. Also FL is flat. My recommendation is patience and some calls to VZW. It may get some interest in new towers in the area. Maybe they will site a tower on your property and you will make some money
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85percent

Jul 6, 2004, 1:15 PM
Chapperal said:
I am a Vrz customer for the last 6 months. I have gone to our local central florida Verzion store, and never have any new info.
Their coverge maps haven't changed in the last 2 years. Their phones are expensive, and cheaply made.
I truly question the quality of their coverage in North Central Florida.
I had ATTWS 6 months ago, and ATTWS TDMA sounded much better and it's coverge in this area was better than VRZ and their voice quality on ATTWS TDMA was also better. I can't speak for GSM, though I have though of changing carrier when my contract is up.
Vrz keeps saying they are spending "tons" of money to make their service better. I don't see it in this area, or as they would say: "Can you hear
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CainMarko

Jul 6, 2004, 2:17 PM
Yeah that's it.... you've figured it out. there are only 2 people who don't like verizon. me and king frog. i personnaly will be writing the check to attws shareholders when i personally buy them out. actually, king frog and i are the same person. I am also Bill gates and will buy your company too. Then i'm going to sell you to a chinese pigfarm to feed you to the fat VZW pigs.
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phonepimp3376

Jul 6, 2004, 2:29 PM
Ummm...Mr. Gates, sir?

Were all those sneaky services running in the background of XP really necessary, or are thay all part of Microsoft's plan to take over the world?
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muchdrama

Jul 6, 2004, 6:50 PM
phonepimp3376 said:
Ummm...Mr. Gates, sir?

Were all those sneaky services running in the background of XP really necessary, or are thay all part of Microsoft's plan to take over the world?
Can you say "Skynet"?
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CainMarko

Jul 7, 2004, 7:02 AM
I AM a MACHINE!!! Hasta La VISTA BEBE...
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muchdrama

Jul 7, 2004, 12:49 PM
CainMarko said:
I AM a MACHINE!!! Hasta La VISTA BEBE...
Did he just call me "Bebe"?
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85percent

Jul 8, 2004, 1:26 AM
CainMarko said:
I AM a MACHINE!!! Hasta La VISTA BEBE...



Is it me or is CainMarko a post whore?


🙄

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muchdrama

Jul 6, 2004, 6:49 PM
CainMarko said:
Yeah that's it.... you've figured it out. there are only 2 people who don't like verizon. me and king frog. i personnaly will be writing the check to attws shareholders when i personally buy them out. actually, king frog and i are the same person. I am also Bill gates and will buy your company too. Then i'm going to sell you to a chinese pigfarm to feed you to the fat VZW pigs.
Pimp, did you forget to give Cain his medicine?
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KLFloyd

Jul 6, 2004, 7:08 PM
Chapperal said:
I am a Vrz customer for the last 6 months. I have gone to our local central florida Verzion store, and never have any new info.
Their coverge maps haven't changed in the last 2 years. Their phones are expensive, and cheaply made.
I truly question the quality of their coverage in North Central Florida.


I too live in the North Central Florida area in Gainesville and I feel your frustration. I have been with Alltel, Sprint, and now Verizon. Switching to Sprint was a big mistake that I got out of just as soon as my contract was up. I've overall been very happy with Verizon's coverage with the exception that I have a dead zone right in the area where my house is located. It's frustrati...
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Chapperal

Jul 6, 2004, 8:01 PM
I finally found someone who see's what's going on here. Thank you KLFloyd, Verizon thinks that are "the bomb".
The truth most of the other carriers to quite well here, and most of the Verizon sales people are pretty slick. Ask them a question why most of the world is using GSM, and they say because the goverments tell them they have no choice in the matter.
I find it pretty interesting there are several types of world phones out there from ATTWS/Cingular but I don't remember hearing about any of them coming from Verizon, have you?
Yes people I am a Verizon customer, and no I don't hate Verizon. I thought Verizon a "bigger company" than the rest and hoping they had the capitol to invest in making a good network great. I was wro...
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Brent85

Jul 6, 2004, 10:30 PM
Chapperal said:
By the way there three cell towers where NW 39th ave intersects with I-75 in Gainesville, Fl. I was wondering if one of those three towers was a Verizon tower.


Hey Chapperal....I looked it up and yes..on of those 3 cell sites is a VZW tower. Also..we do have a time period where you can use the phone is see if you like the service..its part of our Worry Free Garentee. There is a 15 day time period where you can return the phone and avoid the ETF. You would only be responsible for the time of use of that phone during the 15 time period.
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muchdrama

Jul 7, 2004, 12:44 PM
Chapperal said:
Ask them a question why most of the world is using GSM, and they say because the goverments tell them they have no choice in the matter.
Didn't you do your research? That's exactly why a great deal of the world's population is GSM. The EU stipulated it for Europe. And the European companies that branched out bullied less developed countries into adopting the standard. I suggest you read this forum a little bit more carefully. And next time, when you refer to what Verizon employees tell customers in regards to a competing technology...perhaps you'll remember this?
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