New York market.
Ok, now that Cingular has the most reliable network in NY. How does Vz market in NY? Do they still say they have the most reliable network bs? or do they just say "It's the network" (just curious -not trying to start a flame war)
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queensyankee said:
who told you they have the most reliable network in NY?
where have you been? It's been everywhere The Wall Street Journal just to mention one.
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actually guy, i've been in NYC, and I bet you read the wall street journal đ . Just because Siggy and crew go around telling you guys "we have the most reliable blah blah blah" doesnt mean thats the way it is. It's one of those things were it looks good on paper, but doesnt have any real world use. I live here, and have known alot of people who had them when they were AT&T. The service was good then, and now its gotten progressivly worse since cingular took them over. They can blast their garbage all over the news, tv, and web, but people here know if it wasn't for tmobile, cingular would drop the most calls, and get less bars in more places.
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Isn't that what you do?
You guys test your own network and then come up with your "network results"
At least our results are given to us by Telephia. (which is a well know company -even in Europe)\
This is old news anyway and I don't feel like reposting all this.
have a good w/e đ
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Come on Anxiover you started this thread now you can't be bothered with it. Another slow day at the cingy store we understand. You know damn well this is a silly thread. I'm not sure why you continue to troll over here but no biggie none of this really matters. You are happy with cingular and we are happy with verizon. So f***ing what who cares blah blah Peace out brotha đ
Cingurlar=suckular đ đ
Cingurlar=suckular đ đ
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gunny said:
Come on Anxiover you started this thread now you can't be bothered with it. Another slow day at the cingy store we understand. You know damn well this is a silly thread. I'm not sure why you continue to troll over here but no biggie none of this really matters. You are happy with cingular and we are happy with verizon. So f***ing what who cares blah blah Peace out brotha đ
Cingurlar=suckular đ đ
So true dat, gunny. đ
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I HAD CINGULAR IN THE NYC, AND I HATED SO MUCH THAT AFTER A 3 MONTHS I PAID TO END THE CONTRACT. NOW I HAVE TMOBILE AND FOR ME ITS GREAT. I CAN NOT SAY IT BETTER THEN VERIZON BEACUSE ITS NOT. THE ONLY THING THAT HELPS TMOBILE IS THE GREAT PRICE PLAN AND SRIEVCE THEY GIVE YOU. đ
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They get all these big pimpin internal emails letting the employee's know how bad a*s they are. Funny Stuff đ
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gunny said:
They get all these big pimpin internal emails letting the employee's know how bad a*s they are. Funny Stuff đ
LOL, I know. đ
I got some friends in the SF Bay Area, and Cingular is tryin' that "We now got the most reliable network in this area" crap up there too, bigtime.
They jus' laugh their asses off whenever they see one o' those ads, because most of 'em have already had Cing in the Bay Area and know how bad it is there. One of 'em switched from Cing to VZW just last month, in fact. đ
Guess Cing don't understand the diff between taking out a newspaper ad SAYING that your the most reliable network, and actually HAVING the most reliable network. đŗ
But you get enough surveys ...
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Cingular never said they had the most reliable network. because they can't they don't. what they have been saying is that they have the least amount of droped calls which is different than having a reliable network. i hear a lot of cingular customers complaining about poor voice quality, and not being able to connect their calls. those 2 things are just as important as dropped calls.
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Actually, the Cing newspaper ads in the Bay Area do claim both that they got "the best network" in the Bay Area and that they're "the most reliable" in the Bay Area.
They even repeat the claim in their press releases:
"The results from a recent third-party drive test proved Cingular has the most reliable wireless network in the Bay Area. The company launched new advertising yesterday which reinforces Cingular's superior network reliability and drive testing results in the market."
http://cingular.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=press_rele ... »
So yeah, they are makin' those claims, even though the reality doesn't match the adverstising.
They even repeat the claim in their press releases:
"The results from a recent third-party drive test proved Cingular has the most reliable wireless network in the Bay Area. The company launched new advertising yesterday which reinforces Cingular's superior network reliability and drive testing results in the market."
http://cingular.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=press_rele ... »
So yeah, they are makin' those claims, even though the reality doesn't match the adverstising.
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By third part they mean a Cingular dealer with the newest/most expensive Cingular phone and comparing it to a old and busted Verizon phone I'm sure.
"Our test phone a Nokia 9300 (Retail value $600) drops far fewer calls than our Verizon test phone a Motorola C333 (Retail Value $0.85)"
great, totally fair guys
"Our test phone a Nokia 9300 (Retail value $600) drops far fewer calls than our Verizon test phone a Motorola C333 (Retail Value $0.85)"
great, totally fair guys
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and who are you to say this? Telephia is not biased on their test nor resuls. đ
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They may not be biased (far as I know), but they sure are hilarious.
Cingular's the best network in the SF Bay Area now? Hahahahahahaha. Yeah, sure, tell me another. đ¤Ŗ
Cingular's the best network in the SF Bay Area now? Hahahahahahaha. Yeah, sure, tell me another. đ¤Ŗ
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SystemShock said:
Watch as 'we're the most reliable (in our own mind)' Cing somehow still gets double the churn (peeps walking on them) as Verizon for Q1 '06. Now, how does much higher churn go together with bein' so reliable? Your guess's good as mine.
We will all see the results on April 19th.
(that's all I can say for now)
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No its "G I can't believe Cingular lost again" classified. đ
Even if they somehow ever won on net adds (not likely, they're 0-4 goin' in), Cing's churn will probably always blow.
Its what happens when your network ain't all that, your customer service is rude, an' you keep on messin' up peeps billing. đŗ
Even if they somehow ever won on net adds (not likely, they're 0-4 goin' in), Cing's churn will probably always blow.
Its what happens when your network ain't all that, your customer service is rude, an' you keep on messin' up peeps billing. đŗ
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Aw, come on Shock. Why not go back five quarters and make it 1-4. It happened.
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An' 1-4 is somethin' to crow about? Lordy.
From what I hear, you could go back further than that, an' Cingy might be 1-10. Do the research if y'all like, to me its kinda like tryin' to find out exactly how bad the Houston Texans NFL record was last year. đŗ
From what I hear, you could go back further than that, an' Cingy might be 1-10. Do the research if y'all like, to me its kinda like tryin' to find out exactly how bad the Houston Texans NFL record was last year. đŗ
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Hey VZW Customers. Why flame this guy for talking up Cingy? As they integrate the old AT&T net with the Cingy net, they are going to surpass VZW in some areas. NYC and SFO may areas where Cingy is starting to surpass VZW.
All the VZW customers that have flamed on this thraed have bitched about VZW in the past. Walled garden, crippled phones, the dreaded UI etc.
As VZW customers we should bw estacic if Cingy is catching up in terms of network. competition is the only thing that will force VZW to quit acting so damn arrogant.
If you don't work for a carrier you don't have a dog in the fight. It is our best interest if the carriers fiercly compete.
It's not VZW customers against Cingy customers!!!!! It's consumers against the carrie...
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All the VZW customers that have flamed on this thraed have bitched about VZW in the past. Walled garden, crippled phones, the dreaded UI etc.
As VZW customers we should bw estacic if Cingy is catching up in terms of network. competition is the only thing that will force VZW to quit acting so damn arrogant.
If you don't work for a carrier you don't have a dog in the fight. It is our best interest if the carriers fiercly compete.
It's not VZW customers against Cingy customers!!!!! It's consumers against the carrie...
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He's gettin' flamed 'cuz he's a Cingular used car salesman-type who's got nuthin' better to do than troll the VZW forums 24-7, ace. Where you been? đ
Oh, an' I can tell you for certain that Cing is in no danger of surpassing VZW anytime soon in the SF area... just the way it is, no matter what they're claiming.
And while its true dat better competition is always a good thing, false claims are not. Cing ain't gonna be my knight in shining armor until their network (AND customer service AND billing) really IS good, rather than just CLAIMED to be good. âšī¸
Right now, Cingular's just tryin' to put a spin on things, 'cuz theyre tired of bein' bit in the ass by VZW's quality image. Thing is, VZW, whatever their other failings, EARNED t...
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Oh, an' I can tell you for certain that Cing is in no danger of surpassing VZW anytime soon in the SF area... just the way it is, no matter what they're claiming.
And while its true dat better competition is always a good thing, false claims are not. Cing ain't gonna be my knight in shining armor until their network (AND customer service AND billing) really IS good, rather than just CLAIMED to be good. âšī¸
Right now, Cingular's just tryin' to put a spin on things, 'cuz theyre tired of bein' bit in the ass by VZW's quality image. Thing is, VZW, whatever their other failings, EARNED t...
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Just thought you all might want to check out this link I saw the other day. Might help to sum up this forum!
http://www.cingularwirelessreallysucks.com/ »
http://www.cingularwirelessreallysucks.com/ »
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daddydogg_00 said:
Just thought you all might want to check out this link I saw the other day. Might help to sum up this forum!
http://www.cingularwirelessreallysucks.com/
That's a bit extreme. Cing doesn't suck THAT bad. đ
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LOL. Did you check out the site? Whether you like them or hate them it is really funny to read what is in that site. I saw that on another forum and got a good laugh out of it!!
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daddydogg_00 said:
LOL. Did you check out the site? Whether you like them or hate them it is really funny to read what is in that site. I saw that on another forum and got a good laugh out of it!!
Ok, okay... I have to admit, after entering the site and reading all the letters, it IS really funny. đ
I especially liked the exchange of letters here, the guy's response is priceless:
http://www.cingularwirelessreallysucks.com/page3.php »
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It seems to me that the problem was landline-related... it might have to do with a specific area code and prefix not provisioned by landline company... I have dealt with similar problems... anyway.... this site is hilarious... đ¤Ŗ
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Either a simple trunking issue or number load. Easy to fix. Don't often want to say negative things of the other carriers but this one should have been a walk in the park to resolve.
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You sound like you know. HOw come this seems to happen more to GSM carriers than CDMA carriers? I had this happen when I had T-Mobile back in the days and I have a friend with T-Mobile that said the same thing last week when I called her. I have never had this problem with my Alltel or calling anyone on Alltel or even Verizon.
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Actually this is sometimes an issue with the landline provider and not the cellular service provider...
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I mean I know that all cell calls go through a land line switch at some point but the last week when I got that error message it was Alltel to Tmobile and before that it was Alltel to Cingular.
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I see... well thats probably a separate issue you encountered... you're welcome to join our little discussion btw over at the USC forum... đ¤Ŗ
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Another suggested that it is the land carrier and that is sort of right.
Trunking and number loads are the responsibility of both the Wireless and Land carrier. The Wireless carrier needs to test a new batch of NPA-NXX's (area code/prefix)to ensure usability prior to relaese ofthe number set (of about 1000 froM the FCC). The short version is that part of the process is the broadcast to other carriers both land and cell. If the issue happens when you call anything outside of the named carriers network (VZ to VZ or Cingy to Cingy), it is the Wireless carrier. However, after that, it is deduction.
In reality with the orginal issue mentioned, if he was able to complete all other land calls but to a specific NPA-NXX, it could be his Wireles...
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Trunking and number loads are the responsibility of both the Wireless and Land carrier. The Wireless carrier needs to test a new batch of NPA-NXX's (area code/prefix)to ensure usability prior to relaese ofthe number set (of about 1000 froM the FCC). The short version is that part of the process is the broadcast to other carriers both land and cell. If the issue happens when you call anything outside of the named carriers network (VZ to VZ or Cingy to Cingy), it is the Wireless carrier. However, after that, it is deduction.
In reality with the orginal issue mentioned, if he was able to complete all other land calls but to a specific NPA-NXX, it could be his Wireles...
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LOL I think it makes some sense. It has happened to me before but it always seems to be TO a gsm phone. ANy reason that this might happen?
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It's only indidental that it was GSM. All this stuff is outside actual 'cellular-throught the air' call delivery that cell technologies represent.
*cough* could just be the quality of the carrier *cough* đ
*cough* could just be the quality of the carrier *cough* đ
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He's gettin' flamed 'cuz he's a Cingular used car salesman-type who's got nuthin' better to do than troll the VZW forums 24-7, ace. Where you been? đ
Oh, an' I can tell you for certain that Cing is in no danger of surpassing VZW anytime soon in the SF area... just the way it is, no matter what they're claiming.
And while its true dat better competition is always a good thing, false claims are not. Cing ain't gonna be my knight in shining armor until their network (AND customer service AND billing) really IS good, rather than just CLAIMED to be good. âšī¸
Right now, Cingular's just tryin' to put a spin on things, 'cuz theyre tired of bein' bit in the ass by VZW's quality image. Thing is, VZW, w
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