It's not like Verizon are the only ones crippling phones and having issues:

Sprnt:
-will be in a contract forever
-spotty service (at least where I live)
-cripple phones like Verizon
-"wonderful" CS lol

Cingular:
-"fewest dropped calls" claim
-$18 upgrade fee (WTF)
-poor clarity of calls
-recently blocked OBEX on one of their new 3G phones

TMobile:
-smallest network
-no longer offers 1 yr contract on website
-poor deals for current customers to upgrade handsets

Verizon:
-excessive crippling of phones
-standarized UI across all handsets
-lack of phone choices according to some

I will stay with Verizon because I know I will pretty much always have service, rarely have to call CS with a problem, NE2 22 months into c...
(continues)

Dude, you're off on some things:
-OBEX was crippled (by LG, refer to: Cingular forum) on a PTT phone. (Not a 3G phone)
-Sprint crippling their phones too? Which one(s)?
-Cingular poor clarity of calls? (you must be refering to those people still using a TDMA-GAIT phone)
T-Mobile smallest network? It's not as big as Cingular's, but it's not THAT small either. (check a roaming coverage map)

So much for not straying...

As posted in Cingular's Forum:

leaving a coverage area or being in a ****ty coverage area and the call ending is not a dropped call ! those are known as gaps in service . I work in a call center and we have a program that shows call process failure and 99.9999999 percent of people that call and say that there dropping calls are not .
driving through hilljack boondock bfe usa and loosing signal is not dropping a call its all in the service agreement
WE DO NOT GARUNTEE SERVICE IN ALL AREAS !

Cingular may have fewest (technical) dropped calls.

Verizon has the fewest "gaps in service".

If you are roaming on someone elses network.
Sprint roaming on VZW
TMOB roaming on CING
Y...
(continues)

you're kidding me right? don't you know how much of that Verizon Coverage Map is actually Alltel?

alltel has no coverage of their own...they use verizon towers and that is what makes them what they are...i just moved and until i moved here to ohio i had never even heard of alltel...so obviously they dont cover everywhere like verizon...go to ne of the 50 states they will know verizon but not alltel....

Verizon does use a lot of alltel towers. But VZW's NAtive network, basically the prepaid network is 99% VZW towers. And it is larger than other networks. Cingular is close but i think it is still a little smaller because they roam on a lot of regional GSM networks.

Nope.

See my other post.

i can here me now said:
VZW has the largest Native Network. So it is more reliable than other providers roaming on larger networks.

Wrong.

Cingular's native network is the largest mobile network in North America.

1. Take a look at each company's prepaid maps.
2. Cingular owns and operates over 47,000 cell sites...Verizon owns and operates 24,000.

You do realize that a CDMA tower covers more than twice the area a GSM tower covers right? I've talked to customers that are 13 miles away from a tower and their phone worked fine. Good luck getting that out of a GSM tower..

i don't know where you got that info but you are wrong.

Oh great fountain of knowledge, please prove me wrong then. I know for a fact that a verizon phone will work from 13 miles because i've seen it happen.

yes you are true. 😁

but a gsm tower is in fact 20-30 miles 😉

i'm bouncing out of work right now so i don't have the time to pull hard facts. but i will tomorrow.

but as a tech for att/cingy i seen proof. from each tower.

actually cdma can get 15-20 miles and gsm 20-30. please dont take my response as biased i did work for vzw after that but was released and now back with cingy.

i will have proof. 😎

WTF? This is not true, unless you are comparing a 850MHz CDMA tower and a 1900MHz GSM tower.

***A 850MHz tower (GSM or CDMA) will always reach farther than a 1900MHz tower***

I think what you were trying to say is that CDMA towers can alocate more calls (not that many more though) per site. So, CDMA towers seem to be more "spread out". This doesn't mean that they reach farther. Both CDMA and GSM towers reach out about the same.

No, I don't realize that, because they don't.

You do realize that the range of a cell site depends greatly on the frequency it uses...NOT on the technology, right?

And besides that, a CDMA cell site's range drops off as more calls are placed on the tower. Not the case with GSM.

Anxiovert said:
Dude, you're off on some things:
-OBEX was crippled (by LG, refer to: Cingular forum) on a PTT phone. (Not a 3G phone)
-Sprint crippling their phones too? Which one(s)?
-Cingular poor clarity of calls? (you must be refering to those people still using a TDMA-GAIT phone)
T-Mobile smallest network? It's not as big as Cingular's, but it's not THAT small either. (check a roaming coverage map)

Roaming? I don't need no steenkeeng roaming!! And yes, check out T-Mobile "roaming" map. Great service, but their coverage is terrible outside metro areas in Michigan.

SNET/NE