3G
I have been a long time Verizon user and althrough I have been unhappy with their phone selection, I have never had a problem with the costumer service or the phone service itself. But I just read an article which said that AT&T Wireless is preparing to launch 3G service in four markets early next week. If that's true, I think I may have to say good bye to Verizon after all.
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VZW already has product better (higher average data speed, security) than ATT's 3G, however it's not available in many markets....yet.
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Does VZW have any plans to debut EV-DO on handsets, rather than just as a computer interface? ATTWS and Cingular will be providing EDGE on handsets.
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With the timeframe it takes to release a Verizon phone, I would think they will be available in early 2006!!!
Can ya hear the pitter patter of the orange footsteps Verizon. I think so with the three year contracts now in the offing!!!
Sorry could not help it..
Can ya hear the pitter patter of the orange footsteps Verizon. I think so with the three year contracts now in the offing!!!
Sorry could not help it..
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Could you complain just a little bit more... please????? God you're like a 5 year old, actually no my 4 year old niece doesn't even whine more than you do. What does it matter, to you, VZW is the devil, thats why you left, now that you are gone though everything is going to change we will be release phones at an alarming speed, we're also going to build towers on every square 1/2 mile, and if need be we will also build a tower in your living room to allow you coverage while on the bowl.
Disclaimer: Objects may be closer than they appear..also we will not build towers in living rooms or every 1/2 mile, not can we promise a new telephone every 1/2 hour for those that can not get enough...
No matter what you do you can not satisfy everyb...
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Disclaimer: Objects may be closer than they appear..also we will not build towers in living rooms or every 1/2 mile, not can we promise a new telephone every 1/2 hour for those that can not get enough...
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here's the link to the article
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNew ... »
attws data speeds will be at maximum 200-300kbps, while vzw's is on average 300 kbps. Also, keep in mind that attws will be using wcdma, which stands for wannabee cdma
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNew ... »
attws data speeds will be at maximum 200-300kbps, while vzw's is on average 300 kbps. Also, keep in mind that attws will be using wcdma, which stands for wannabee cdma
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Actually it stands for Wideband Code Division Multiple Access, and is a CDMA-based (not CDMA as Qualcomm markets it) air interface on a GSM core.
UMTS will be the next generation. UMTS is capable of speeds up to 14.4 MEGABITS per second... almost 7 times faster than enhanced home broadband, which averages 768 kbps to 1.5 Mbps.
UMTS will be the next generation. UMTS is capable of speeds up to 14.4 MEGABITS per second... almost 7 times faster than enhanced home broadband, which averages 768 kbps to 1.5 Mbps.
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Yuppers... I looked it up... lol.... found two definitions
WCDMA - Wideband CDMA
WCDMA - Wannabee CDMA - what VZW and SPCS folks call the technology that is strapping on the cleats to walk all over them.
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WCDMA - Wideband CDMA
WCDMA - Wannabee CDMA - what VZW and SPCS folks call the technology that is strapping on the cleats to walk all over them.
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well then you got hard cleets on and when you walk over us "the pavement" we'll chew the sh*t out of your cleets...I really had to stretch pretty far on that lol
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Verizons umbillical cord to Qualcom will be it's undoing as Linux is tearing into Microsoft's server market. Propietary technology is like having a union shop. Pay Pay PAy!!!!!! While the open source community sells solution not license.
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Yes, AT&T is planning to launch 3G soon. Four cities - San Francisco, Seattle, Detroit, and Phoenix. It's possible they may also have it in three more cities by year-end, but that's it. It's won't be nationwide - or anywhere close - until Cingular starts their big build-out.
The problem is, even you do live in one of those four cities, WCDMA is the 3G technology they're rolling out. It can do 2-way video calling, but that's about it. It is a bit faster than Verizon's current xRTT tech, but...
Verizon is rolling out EV-DO technology right now. EV-DO is much, much faster than WCDMA, and it will be nationwide much sooner. Mostly it's good for laptop use, but they will also have EV-DO phones out by the end of the year, or early next year.
The problem is, even you do live in one of those four cities, WCDMA is the 3G technology they're rolling out. It can do 2-way video calling, but that's about it. It is a bit faster than Verizon's current xRTT tech, but...
Verizon is rolling out EV-DO technology right now. EV-DO is much, much faster than WCDMA, and it will be nationwide much sooner. Mostly it's good for laptop use, but they will also have EV-DO phones out by the end of the year, or early next year.
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I would not bet on Verizon having phones for it for the next two years....They just don't release state of the art featured phones that quickly!
Hell they still don't have a BT phone...but it's comming.
Hell they still don't have a BT phone...but it's comming.
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bluetooth is not a big deal, many people dont even know what it is. Drop the bluetooth statements already, do you think maybe vzw knows a little more than you do to why bluetooth should be released already on their phones. If it's so important as some of you say it is we would have bluetooth phones now, but it's not.
Actually, VZW execs are dumb and they don't know what they're doing, how did they get to where they are.
Actually, VZW execs are dumb and they don't know what they're doing, how did they get to where they are.
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Great advertising company. Herd mentality. And lazy ignorance of people in selecting a technology.
Verizon execs know alright. Thats why they are suddenly switching to three year contracts and implementing GSM on their phones.... They know alright..those tiny orange footsteps are within striking range!
People buying new cars will soon see and understand the benefit of bT. Its cheap to put in a car. Cheaper than tinted windows.
Verizon has built a company based on ignorance (meaning the lack of knowledge as savy) of the ordinary user....today. That is changing albeit slowly but it is.
Verizon execs know alright. Thats why they are suddenly switching to three year contracts and implementing GSM on their phones.... They know alright..those tiny orange footsteps are within striking range!
People buying new cars will soon see and understand the benefit of bT. Its cheap to put in a car. Cheaper than tinted windows.
Verizon has built a company based on ignorance (meaning the lack of knowledge as savy) of the ordinary user....today. That is changing albeit slowly but it is.
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maybe its for people who just wants to communicate thats all, not have their laundry done via their phone.
Ur calling people lazy and ignorant based on ur preferance for bluetooth.
Ur calling people lazy and ignorant based on ur preferance for bluetooth.
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I'm calling people lazy and ignorant because they do no research on the whole before signing a binding contract.Then whine about the service or lack of choice afterward.
Hell I did not even know there were two competing technologies until a Verizon rep began bashing "GSM." I then went and did my own research into the technologies and made my choice fully knowing the limitations and benefits of the choice I made and accepted the limitations based on phone features I deem important, coverage where I live and travel and the cost benefit.
I'm saying If all customers put that kind of time in and did not buy based on clever advertising and blind acceptance or herd mentality, Customers would be more satisfied, less apt to rank an entire in...
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Hell I did not even know there were two competing technologies until a Verizon rep began bashing "GSM." I then went and did my own research into the technologies and made my choice fully knowing the limitations and benefits of the choice I made and accepted the limitations based on phone features I deem important, coverage where I live and travel and the cost benefit.
I'm saying If all customers put that kind of time in and did not buy based on clever advertising and blind acceptance or herd mentality, Customers would be more satisfied, less apt to rank an entire in...
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Okay Kingfrog, I'll come out with it, there is a conspriacy with VZW, they are out to get you, they know every move you make...you know you are getting worse than 85percent when it comes to posting rediculous sh*t in other forums, Cingular Forum has 85 percent, we have you
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kingfrog77 said:King, you back up your little rants with absolutely NO facts whatsoever.
Great advertising company. Herd mentality. And lazy ignorance of people in selecting a technology.
Verizon execs know alright. Thats why they are suddenly switching to three year contracts and implementing GSM on their phones.... They know alright..those tiny orange footsteps are within striking range!
People buying new cars will soon see and understand the benefit of bT. Its cheap to put in a car. Cheaper than tinted windows.
Verizon has built a company based on ignorance (meaning the lack of knowledge as savy) of the ordinary user....today. That is changing albeit slowly but it is.
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King Frog, just because you had problems in several store, only a couple of which were actual VZW employees, does not give you the right to bash VZW on the whole...that is Cellism...if an African American were to rob you would you dislike the entire race....God I hope not...quit being a bigot...not everybody is the same and to group everybody from a certain company together would be bias and hateful...
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Im sure you know as an accomplished sales person. it takes ONLY ONE employee to send a potential customer packing. This is not about race or bigotry. It's about business practice and corporate culture. In that world there are usually no second chances, although I did get turned off by my first visit with a Verizon rep, I still went and visited other stores and kiosks and found a similarity in cultural corporate stance which did turn me off.
There is no crime punishable by "cell-ism" except the corporate balance sheet.
There is no crime punishable by "cell-ism" except the corporate balance sheet.
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I am not a sales rep first off I am a call center Customer service representative. Second off, I have tried to apologize on behalf of the company to you numerous times, but you don't want to believe that anybody from this company actually cares so you can continue your crusade against us...well do whatever this will be my last reply to anything you put here, as if anything you say makes any sense
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You guys seem to seperate sales and service reps as if you are from two different companies. That is a huge corporate mistake. 85% made it very clear he was not in service and now you are separating yourself from sales, You are sales and sales is service. All of you are in Customer Service. Those are the kind of statements of that cause the eventual downfall of a company not on the same page.
You guys should have corporate training that defines what Customer Service really is and who is reponsible.
You guys should have corporate training that defines what Customer Service really is and who is reponsible.
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👿 👿 👿 👿 you are killing me Smalls...When we say sales or serive there are 2 different things...sales = based on commision, service = salary, doesn't matter if we sell 500 phone or 0...thats the only thing we're saying, you look way too far into things man!!!
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These posts are quickly becoming redundant. All carriers have folks that make them look bad, and folks that make them look good. Each technology has its pros and cons.
Bottom line - find something you like and stick with it. That's why there are so many choices for wireless service - to allow you a choice and the ability to compare.
I have my little gripes with VZW, and with ALL carriers, including Cingular. None of them is perfect. But this is not really the place to wage a war on VZW. That would probably be a lot more effective if it were directed to their bigwigs. Regardless of what is said here, no one on this forum has the ability to change company policy, training procedures, or phone availability. The CC folks and sales reps her...
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Bottom line - find something you like and stick with it. That's why there are so many choices for wireless service - to allow you a choice and the ability to compare.
I have my little gripes with VZW, and with ALL carriers, including Cingular. None of them is perfect. But this is not really the place to wage a war on VZW. That would probably be a lot more effective if it were directed to their bigwigs. Regardless of what is said here, no one on this forum has the ability to change company policy, training procedures, or phone availability. The CC folks and sales reps her...
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thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you...you are my hero, this is exactly what I've been talking about!!!!Amen, praise Jesus, I have exercised the demons, praise be to Allah and Buddha and Zues and efverybody else...I love you phonepimp( in a very non-gay way(not that there is anything wrong with that)) for making it Crystal Clear!!!!!! 😁 😁 😁 😁 😁 😁
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TheVZWMan said:VZW, if you apologize to this idiot one more time I'm going to slap you. Then I'm going to slap him. If you stop speaking to him eventually he'll go away.
I am not a sales rep first off I am a call center Customer service representative. Second off, I have tried to apologize on behalf of the company to you numerous times, but you don't want to believe that anybody from this company actually cares so you can continue your crusade against us...well do whatever this will be my last reply to anything you put here, as if anything you say makes any sense
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That is exactly what I'm doing from here on out...hehehe...no need to slap me bud
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TheVZWMan said:It would have been a gentle, manly, non-gay slap.
That is exactly what I'm doing from here on out...hehehe...no need to slap me bud
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VZW, if you apologize to this idiot one more time I'm going to slap you. Then I'm going to slap him. If you stop speaking to him eventually he'll go away.
Is that kind of like "if you build it , they will come? in reverse..
I'm not going anywhere whether or not you reply.I do not post for employees but will comment on incredulous statements as I see fit just like everyone else. If I step on a few Verizon toes, deal with it. Verizon is vulnerable as evidenced by the acute defensive posture taken on this particular board.
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kingfrog77 said:VZW, if you apologize to this idiot one more time I'm going to slap you. Then I'm going to slap him. If you stop speaking to him eventually he'll go away.From now on, you're "Professor Numbnut".
Is that kind of like "if you build it , they will come? in reverse..
I'm not going anywhere whether or not you reply.I do not post for employees but will comment on incredulous statements as I see fit just like everyone else. If I step on a few Verizon toes, deal with it. Verizon is vulnerable as evidenced by the acute defensive posture taken on this particular board.
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kingfrog77 said:King, you have absolutely NO idea what the hell you're talking about. I'm sick of your idiocy.
I would not bet on Verizon having phones for it for the next two years....They just don't release state of the art featured phones that quickly!
Hell they still don't have a BT phone...but it's comming.
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I wouldn't let this issue decide your phone carrier. If you switch to ATTWS, you'll miss Verizon's excellent customer service and phone service. Cooler phones may be nice, but the bottom line is reliability of service. As a former ATTWS customer until July, I think you'll miss Verizon's quality.
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Reliability of service is location dependant more than Carrier dependant. Where do you live and work all of the time and where do you go some of the time. I was with ATTWS also and had one issuewith their Customer Service in eight years. I had occasion to call them around 9 times during that period and had acceptable nationwide reliability.
I believe phone choice and features are important second to local dependant service reliability.
I for one am willing to put up with a few dropped calls now and then to enjoy better phone choices from major brands and flexibility (7PM nights,SIM cards, FULL extended service on entire network etc) on a growing network with less expensive service as a bonus.
I believe phone choice and features are important second to local dependant service reliability.
I for one am willing to put up with a few dropped calls now and then to enjoy better phone choices from major brands and flexibility (7PM nights,SIM cards, FULL extended service on entire network etc) on a growing network with less expensive service as a bonus.
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