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EVDO vs EDGE

thatguy0109

Jul 20, 2006, 11:23 AM
I have been reading alot of forums lately, and is it just me or do alot of people think that EDGE is the same as EVDO?

Isn't EDGE the same speed as 1xRTT?

I kinda find it funny when people complain that the phone doesn't have EDGE.

In my opinion, that would put some of the other carriers like 4 years behind VZW, right?

Tell me your thoughts on this matter.
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chainsaw

Jul 20, 2006, 11:32 AM
EVDO is much faster than edge thats why cingular who has edge is putting UMTS/HSDPA in markets to compete with EVDO.
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nextel18

Jul 20, 2006, 12:02 PM
Yes, I have been noticing lately that many people think that DO is the same as both EDGE and GPRS which is flat out to be wrong, because DO destroys both of them put together.

It would be correct in saying that EDGE and GRPS are similar speeds to 1xrtt.

I would not say 4 years behind Verizon and Sprint but it puts them at least 1 year behind them. Problem is, T-Mobile cannot deploy any 3g network as it does not have 3g spectrum, but Cingular is currently deploying UMTS/HSDPA that will be in competition with DO. Will it succeed? Time will tell, but right now, DO has been doing a lot better than UMTS/HSDPA. Obviously, Cingular’s roll out is only in 20 or so markets so it is quite young but evidence shows us so far that DO will outperfo...
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chainsaw

Jul 20, 2006, 12:14 PM
We have have the UMTS cards in our market and they are faster as of right now than sprint or verizon's EDVO product. Pretty soon things will be stupid fast for everyone!
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nextel18

Jul 20, 2006, 12:19 PM
What are your speeds for UMTS?

My average for my EV-DO pc-cards are 900kb/s reaching up to 1mb/s. On the cellular edge, with a -105DB, I get around 700kb/s. By the way, this is only REV O speeds, REV A speeds will drive the numbers higher.

I think HSDPA, if the testing is true and does well in “real life”, it should be very competitive against DO REV A, but remember, there must be pc-cards and phones that can achieve the 14.4mb/s that was theoretically reached. I doubt we will seek that 14.4mb/s, but I think we will see from 1-4mb/s again depending on what pc-cards and phones there are and the speeds to support it.
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chainsaw

Jul 20, 2006, 12:24 PM
Average speeds around 700 peaks around 1.6 on UMTS The HSDPA cards that will be released are going to be faster. I have not used the EVDO card personally. I have had customers just saying that their UMTS card is faster than their friends verizon cards
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nextel18

Jul 20, 2006, 12:42 PM
Well when we just compared numbers, my DO card outperforms your UMTS/HSDPA card. I have actually used personally Cingular’s cards, Sprint’s cards and Verizon’s cards and I can say that Sprint and Verizon are faster then Cingular’s cards.

UMTS/WCDMA is actually supposed to be peak download at 2mb/s with average speeds of 220-320kb/s.


Actually, HSDPA speeds are targeted to be from; “will support peak
theoretical rate of 14 Mbps and average throughput rates experienced by users of
between 550-1100 kbps.” Therefore, as you can see, DO REV A and HSDPA will be competing nicely against each other.


REV O is supposed to be peak download at 2.4mb/s with average of 400-700kb/s, while REV A’s peak will be at 3.1mb/s with average over ...
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chainsaw

Jul 20, 2006, 12:56 PM
How is EVDO performed during travel...like you driving down the road and browing the web. Ours tend to hold on to towers too long and lose connections.
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nextel18

Jul 20, 2006, 1:10 PM
Well, as you know I have both DO pc-cards and phones so I guess I will discuss both.

PC-cards while in motion seems to be handling the speeds quite well and even going at 60mph I was still able to obtain a minimum speed of 900kb/s. Obviously when there is lesser coverage I obtained lesser speeds but still pretty good. (700kb/s)

(That is common with all wireless technologies)

With the phones, I have been seeing a bit lesser speeds then what I was able to obtain on my pc-cards, and on the road either going 20mph or 60mph it seemed to me that speeds were decreasing, but it was not that bad and I did not lose any connection. (I do not remember what the speeds were but they were pretty close to the pc-cards. Next time I run my tests, i...
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nextel18

Jul 20, 2006, 1:21 PM
I forgot to mention that in my post to you, https://www.phonescoop.com/carriers/forum.php ?fm=m&ff=2&fi=709823, the pc-cards and phones were just Sprint devices on the DO network. With Verizon’s network and devices, I have been getting different speeds, which were a lot less then Sprint’s devices. I wanted to note that in my area, Verizon is not very good here so that could have been attributed to the lesser speeds. I was still able to obtain on the pc-cards 500kb/s with bursts of only 700kb/s and it was far less than on the phones. I recalled that when I was using those devices on the road, I was loosing speed, coverage and connection.

However, I have not talked to other people who are in more favorable areas for Verizon Wireless through...
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Anxiovert

Jul 20, 2006, 12:27 PM
Difference between EDGE and 1xRTT 101.

Edge is faster than 1xRTT. And EDGE is considered by many (not me) as a 3G technology.
The difference in speeds:

1xRTT = The initial release - release 0 (zero) - supports data speeds peaking at 144 kbps. Typical real-world speeds are closer to 60-80 kbps. (Verizon skipped "1xRTT release A" and went ahead a released EV-DO) 1xRTT release A would had promised rates up to 288Kbps, but verizon didn't want to upgrade to this and chose EV-DO)

EDGE = Although many EDGE phones and devices are theoretically capable of up to 236 Kbps, most EDGE networks are only configured to allow up to 135 Kbps, to conserve spectrum resources. (This is subject to revision since I have reached over 195Kbps on my w600i)
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