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what is this?? a research company praising verizon wireless??

shagVZW

Jul 27, 2004, 9:59 AM
Gartner Research named Verizon Wireless "the sole leader" among all major wireless carriers. According to the report, "Verizon Wireless remains the leader in wireless service with the best coverage and data technology in the business. Gartner praised Verizon Wireless for its support of BREW and its launch of (CDMA) 1xRTT and 1X EV-DO services nationwide and identified these steps as proof that Verizon Wireless is "driving the market forward and influencing its competitors in their network plans and spending. Verizon has completed 95 percent of its integration of billing and service systems, with low impact on clients. This has driven Verizon to the top of most customer service satisfaction surveys at a time when the industry has fallen to a ...
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phonepimp3376

Jul 27, 2004, 11:50 AM
A third party that is misinformed, as EV-DO is nowhere NEAR nationwide.
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muchdrama

Jul 27, 2004, 12:51 PM
phonepimp3376 said:
A third party that is misinformed, as EV-DO is nowhere NEAR nationwide.
Nearer than you think.
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phonepimp3376

Jul 27, 2004, 4:37 PM
two markets? don't make me laugh... and that info was confirmed right here on PS last week!

EDGE is up and running on 2/3 of our network and should be nationwide by end 3Q.
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muchdrama

Jul 27, 2004, 6:44 PM
phonepimp3376 said:
two markets? don't make me laugh... and that info was confirmed right here on PS last week!

EDGE is up and running on 2/3 of our network and should be nationwide by end 3Q.
I wasn't referring to the two markets, and it's not nice to belittle my comments.
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phonepimp3376

Jul 27, 2004, 6:57 PM
Then perhaps you could explain your cryptic comment "Nearer than you think"? The article implied it was DONE. You don't say "We launched the rocket, but it won't leave the ground for 6 months", do you?

A nationwide LAUNCH means that it has been done... launch is present tense,as in the launch is underway. Launched would be past tense. Future tense would be pre-launch, or will launch.

Therefore, as I stated before, the article implies something that has not happened yet HAS happened, and is misleading at best, if not downright DECEPTIVE.
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mtown

Jul 27, 2004, 9:32 PM
My Verizon Rep was using at a RS manager meeting today, I'm from Memphis. She said it's a real small area here in town, but she's been using it for a couple weeks. It's so fast. 🙂
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phonepimp3376

Jul 27, 2004, 9:40 PM
which? EV-DO or UMTS/HSDPA?
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mtown

Jul 27, 2004, 9:46 PM
It was EV-DO, I wish it were UMTS, my boyfriend works for cing, can't wait to get a hold of either one. He's not into the tech info as much as me. I heard UMTS is a badwidth hog, but I guess cing's got it to spare after the merg. 🙂
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mcf04581

Jul 28, 2004, 7:02 PM
yeah, but Edge is can not even burst as fast as 1XRTT so if 2/3 of a footprint being covered by Edge is an accomplishment, its pretty silly. Now if 2/3 of a footprint is covered by UTMS then thats a different story.
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phonepimp3376

Jul 28, 2004, 7:05 PM
To fall back on my VZW training... its coming... just be patient...lol
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moobak

Jul 28, 2004, 7:37 PM
what the heck are you talking about!?
EDGE is WAY faster then 1xRTT 😛
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mycool

Jul 27, 2004, 7:14 PM
Is EV-DV anywhere near done so VZW can start implementing that instead of EV-DO? Also, if it DOES come out soon will they just scrap EV-DO rollout and start rolling out EV-DV or will they finish up EV-DO then start doing EV-DV?

I only ask this because Cingular is emplimenting that umm.. well i forget the name of it but it gets speeds faster than home broadband...
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phonepimp3376

Jul 27, 2004, 8:20 PM
EV-DV is held up by equipment availablity and most likely won't be commercially available until early 2006 by most estimates I have heard.

Cingular plans on implementing UMTS/HSDPA in early 2005. AWE has already got UMTS up in four markets, as per a deal they made with NTT DoCoMo prior to the buyout being an issue. Cingular has testing of these technologies underway in the Atanta market, but I believe it is primarily in-house at the moment.

UMTS/HSDPA is capable IN THEORY of speeds as high as 14.4 Mbps, or about 9.6 times faster than residential broadband's best speeds of 1.5 Mbps.
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disturbed1

Jul 27, 2004, 9:16 PM
Theoretical? Help me out here. GPRS has, IN THEORY, the ability to operate at 115 kbps, but typically only operates at about half that. UNTS/HSDPA has potential for 9.6 times faster than home broadband (which I personally swear by). Even if it stands like GPRS and works at half capacity that's still a good 5 or 6 times faster than broadband. May I say DAMN!!!!!
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shagVZW

Jul 27, 2004, 1:08 PM
"LAUNCH of (CDMA) 1xRTT and 1X EV-DO services nationwide and identified these steps as proof that Verizon Wireless is "driving the market forward and influencing its competitors in their network plans and spending"


once again an research company cannot please the pimp. it never said it was nationwide. the key word here is LAUNCH. but it will be here soon so dont you worry a bit there big guy.
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Digital Pimp

Jul 27, 2004, 2:14 PM
shagVZW said:
Gartner Research named Verizon Wireless "the sole leader" among all major wireless carriers. According to the report, "Verizon Wireless remains the leader in wireless service with the best coverage and data technology in the business. Gartner praised Verizon Wireless for its support of BREW and its launch of (CDMA) 1xRTT and 1X EV-DO services nationwide and identified these steps as proof that Verizon Wireless is "driving the market forward and influencing its competitors in their network plans and spending. Verizon has completed 95 percent of its integration of billing and service systems, with low impact on clients. This has driven Verizon to the top of most customer service satisfaction surveys at a time
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phonepimp3376

Jul 27, 2004, 4:42 PM
Gartner praised Verizon Wireless for its support of BREW and its launch of (CDMA) 1xRTT and 1X EV-DO services nationwide and identified these steps as proof that Verizon Wireless is "driving the market forward and influencing its competitors in their network plans and spending.


This reads as if they have ALREADY LAUNCHED EV-DO nationwide. We all know 1xRTT is nationwide, and to put EV-DO in the same context is nowhere near true.

It would have had to be worded as such: ...its launch of 1xRTT nationwide, and its continuing deployment of 1X EV-DO, which is currently in a few markets with plans to go nationwide.
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chris_lt1

Jul 27, 2004, 5:11 PM
phonepimp3376 said:
Gartner praised Verizon Wireless for its support of BREW and its launch of (CDMA) 1xRTT and 1X EV-DO services nationwide and identified these steps as proof that Verizon Wireless is "driving the market forward and influencing its competitors in their network plans and spending.


This reads as if they have ALREADY LAUNCHED EV-DO nationwide. We all know 1xRTT is nationwide, and to put EV-DO in the same context is nowhere near true.

It would have had to be worded as such: ...its launch of 1xRTT nationwide, and its continuing deployment of 1X EV-DO, which is currently in a few markets with plans to go nationwide.


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phonepimp3376

Jul 27, 2004, 5:17 PM
It IS very misleading though. 'EV-DO where available' what, 2 markets?
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vzwguy1276

Jul 27, 2004, 5:56 PM
Yes but it WILL be nation wide by the end of the year in all markets. Our testing is complete and we currently have about half of the equipment in place to launch in every market. More areas will be online during 3rd Qt. and the rest will be online during 4th Qt. this year. 😛
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Biggs

Jul 27, 2004, 5:59 PM
Sorry folx, I have to agree w/ Phonepimp on this one. It was a confusing bit of journalism which will do nothing more than fuel his fire on this. Can't says I blame him on this one.

😡 Dirt!!!
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phonepimp3376

Jul 27, 2004, 6:17 PM
You know what aggravates me the most? Its not even the inaccuracy of the report. Its the fact that based on everything else people read, it was accepted as Gospel until somebody actually READ it that KNEW the truth.

That article, with its inaccuracies, will eventually be seen by countless people who will assume it to be true, and VZW will never even TRY to correct the author.

Yet other carriers do significant things, and you hear NOTHING of them.
ATTWS rolls out UMTS in four markets 5 months ahead of schedule, Cingular has 2/3 of its network EDGE-capable, T-Mobile gets the go-ahead and finances to implement EDGE, Cingular begins testing UMTS/HSDPA... how many people outside the industry are aware of all of these?
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Airwar

Jul 28, 2004, 12:02 AM
Hows the old expression go!= Gee it's gota be true if you saw it on TV or read it in the newspaper. This worked well for TASS and PRAVDA during the Cold War Era. I must comment all of you guys really watch every word, cross every T and dot every i.
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chris_lt1

Jul 28, 2004, 4:51 PM
phonepimp3376 said:
It IS very misleading though. 'EV-DO where available' what, 2 markets?


3 now, and soon to be many more by the end of the year to early 2005

currently: D.C., San Diego, and Vegas
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