night and weekends
I have this guy at work who says that if he starts a call per say, Friday night at 8:50pm and he talks for 30 mins, he says that that call of 30 mins will come out of his anytime mins, (he has Cingular), he says all carries do this! I am very sure that this call on VZW network would be 10 mins anytime, and 20 min night & weekends. He was telling me something about hanging up after 9pm and dial the number again, I was like "I am glad I don't have to do that"! but then my other friend who stepped in the conversation says VZW does this too, we argued for about 30 mins, and now I have my doubts. Can someone assure me that Im the one who's correct? or should I take my words back? ¿?¿?
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Anxiovert,
Hope you like crow because you're gonna be eating some.
I have not found a carrier yet that bills minutes the way you describe.
Verizon bills the ENTIRE call from the minute package that is in effect at the time the call begins. This works to your advantage if you place the call at 5:59am and talk all day 🙂
This is clearly spelled out in VZW's service agreement.
Sorry but its the truth.
Hope you like crow because you're gonna be eating some.
I have not found a carrier yet that bills minutes the way you describe.
Verizon bills the ENTIRE call from the minute package that is in effect at the time the call begins. This works to your advantage if you place the call at 5:59am and talk all day 🙂
This is clearly spelled out in VZW's service agreement.
Sorry but its the truth.
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This is exactly correct. So if your call starts at 8:59 pm on a tuesday, you talk all the way to 3am weds, the entire call counts as daytime minutes, not night minutes.
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You pay for the call at the rate the call initiated under, so 8:59 would initiate the call in peak time.
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I dont understand! there have been several times when I make a phone call minutes before 9pm and the call would be charged like I described before, I know this for sure cuz I only had 10 mins left I called at 9:55pm my mins were going back to zero that night at midnight, I called at 9:55pm I talked for about 30 mins at the end of my billing cycle I had used 395 mins which proves me correct! Am I tripping??? or was it just a dream?
Anxio*
Anxio*
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Anxiovert said:
I dont understand! there have been several times when I make a phone call minutes before 9pm and the call would be charged like I described before, I know this for sure cuz I only had 10 mins left I called at 9:55pm my mins were going back to zero that night at midnight, I called at 9:55pm I talked for about 30 mins at the end of my billing cycle I had used 395 mins which proves me correct! Am I tripping??? or was it just a dream?
Anxio*
Im going to do this tonite mins before 9pm! and I will check with you tomorrow, If Im not correct I will get everyone in this forum a new Motorola V710 (kidding)
Anxio*
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Dude, that's sweet and all, but can I substitue my v710 for $400 worth of groceries? Hell, what am I sayin...just pay my frickin rent for me.
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You said in your first reply that your call started at 9:55pm - night min. start at 9:01pm so you were already on the night min.
I bet if you start a call at 8:55pm you will see it all come out of your anytime min.
The way you originally said is probably the way that makes the most sense so now add in the factor of wireless phone company and that takes you right out of the makes sense group.
Anybody know how landline phone companies handle this issue?
I bet if you start a call at 8:55pm you will see it all come out of your anytime min.
The way you originally said is probably the way that makes the most sense so now add in the factor of wireless phone company and that takes you right out of the makes sense group.
Anybody know how landline phone companies handle this issue?
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Wait a second... they got companies that have phones that have lines going over land... instead of wirelessly???
man can you imagine the upkeep cost to keep all that wiring paid for and maintained.
man can you imagine the upkeep cost to keep all that wiring paid for and maintained.
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fc2462 said:
You said in your first reply that your call started at 9:55pm - night min. start at 9:01pm so you were already on the night min.
My bad that's what I meant 8:55pm sorry!
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You maybe on a old plan that was had the old 8pm night time. I at one time found the M&P that gave the date of what plans had that and which done but I can't seem to find it, I vaugely rember it was some time in the 90's when it was swiched over totaly.
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I had a plan that started in 2002 which still had the N/W minutes beginning at 8:00 pm....I recently upgraded the plan and lost the 8:00 pm start time, but they discontinued this in 2003, I believe.
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To re-assert my initial response;
In the west, the first 10 minutes are anytime, the other 20 minutes are considered to be N&W unlimited.
In the west, the first 10 minutes are anytime, the other 20 minutes are considered to be N&W unlimited.
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schnozejt said:
I think I hear an echoe. Can anyone else confirm this?
I think I hear an echoe. Can anyone else confirm this?
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This is called spanning. Actually this is how it works, and I know because I see it on customers bills all the time.
If you see a call on a detailed bill witha P* in the usage type this is the type of call you are talking about. It means that the call was initiated during peak hours but carried over into the off peak hours. It would actually bill you as how many minutes were used till 9:00 pm and bill them as peak. After the 9:01pm mark, any minute would be billed under the off peak bundle(assuming you aren't on a super old plan that had 8:00 pm nights, or any other type of plan).
Now, where you would charged full peak time would be if the call started before the off peak minutes ended, say 8:55 pm, and the call lasted till after the o...
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If you see a call on a detailed bill witha P* in the usage type this is the type of call you are talking about. It means that the call was initiated during peak hours but carried over into the off peak hours. It would actually bill you as how many minutes were used till 9:00 pm and bill them as peak. After the 9:01pm mark, any minute would be billed under the off peak bundle(assuming you aren't on a super old plan that had 8:00 pm nights, or any other type of plan).
Now, where you would charged full peak time would be if the call started before the off peak minutes ended, say 8:55 pm, and the call lasted till after the o...
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**EDIT** Now, where you would charged full peak time would be if the call started before the peak minutes ended, say 8:55 pm, and the call lasted till after the off peak hours ended like 6:01 am. Then you would be charged as all peak minutes instead of spanning. I have actually seen this happen as well.
**I had off peak in there twice...it should be this instead. 😎
**I had off peak in there twice...it should be this instead. 😎
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This is called spanning. Actually this is how it works, and I know because I see it on customers bills all the time.
If you see a call on a detailed bill witha P* in the usage type this is the type of call you are talking about. It means that the call was initiated during peak hours but carried over into the off peak hours. It would actually bill you as how many minutes were used till 9:00 pm and bill them as peak. After the 9:01pm mark, any minute would be billed under the off peak bundle(assuming you aren't on a super old plan that had 8:00 pm nights, or any other type of plan).
Now, where you would charged full peak time would be if the call started before the off peak minutes ended, say 8:55 pm, and t
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Hi Anxiovert,
Oh, up until a couple of years or so ago, when I switched off of an old Verizon plan that was discontinued called the "Midwest Regional" I never heard of night and weekend minutes before. Minutes were minutes. And, I had the same question you did - how are the calls billed and it no doubtedly occurred after one of those crazy first bills you get after a plan change. So, I called Verizon Cust. Care and asked how those "span" calls were billed and they told me that the whole call goes by the minutes in effect at the beginning of the call. Now, DAKZ sounds like he works for VZW or is somehow connected and is mentioning the P* or whatever on the actual bill. Knowing how fast these companies change the way they do things, it...
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Oh, up until a couple of years or so ago, when I switched off of an old Verizon plan that was discontinued called the "Midwest Regional" I never heard of night and weekend minutes before. Minutes were minutes. And, I had the same question you did - how are the calls billed and it no doubtedly occurred after one of those crazy first bills you get after a plan change. So, I called Verizon Cust. Care and asked how those "span" calls were billed and they told me that the whole call goes by the minutes in effect at the beginning of the call. Now, DAKZ sounds like he works for VZW or is somehow connected and is mentioning the P* or whatever on the actual bill. Knowing how fast these companies change the way they do things, it...
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fc2462 said:...
Hi Anxiovert,
Oh, up until a couple of years or so ago, when I switched off of an old Verizon plan that was discontinued called the "Midwest Regional" I never heard of night and weekend minutes before. Minutes were minutes. And, I had the same question you did - how are the calls billed and it no doubtedly occurred after one of those crazy first bills you get after a plan change. So, I called Verizon Cust. Care and asked how those "span" calls were billed and they told me that the whole call goes by the minutes in effect at the beginning of the call. Now, DAKZ sounds like he works for VZW or is somehow connected and is mentioning the P* or whatever on the actual bill. Knowing how fast these companies
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Well, it wasn't 9 hours but it hurt. Situation: My Audiovox CDM-9000 was plugged into the wall charging. My children used it to call the SBC Hardline in the residance. Both phones were eventually abandoned by the children and the meter was running for hours. Words not printable in the Bible can not describe my anger. I had to put the cell phone on a shelf the rest of the month.
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Airwar said:
Well, it wasn't 9 hours but it hurt. Situation: My Audiovox CDM-9000 was plugged into the wall charging. My children used it to call the SBC Hardline in the residance. Both phones were eventually abandoned by the children and the meter was running for hours. Words not printable in the Bible can not describe my anger. I had to put the cell phone on a shelf the rest of the month.
Ouch!! 😲
That would've chapped my hide too!!
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i had a call from a woman Friday who's teenage daughter had a pen pal in India and decided to call her from Mommy's cell phone and then initiate a three way call with her pen pal's other pen pal in china. i don't think i have ever spoken to a woman who was as mad as that momma i feel really bad for her kid
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I know for a fact that in the west billing system, the call would be divided into two calls; one from 8:50-9:00, then the other from 9:01-9:30
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