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Looks like tmobile added alot of customers. 2.8 churn is kinda bad though. It also appears that they actually made a profit this quarter versus losing 130 million this quarter last year.
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1.092 million adds, churn is 2.8 percent. 240 milion dollars profit. arpu was up due to dat revenues.
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Funny how cellular Giant (cingular) can't get more adds that a gsm carrier with pitiful coverage.
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Funny how cellular Giant (cingular) can't get more adds that a gsm carrier with pitiful coverage.
Ask phonepimp, let's see what he has to say about this??? he he
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Which has nothing to do with why you would have low adds. We are talking a "big" company that has been around for as long as VZW, has been around longer than T-Mobile, Has the largest TDMA/GSM network, is buying out AT&T, yet continues to show poorly? Even worse than last quarter? If you can't figure out something isn't right yet PP, then you need to open your eyes.
Facts show: 1st Q - 650Kish adds, 2nd Q - 450Kish adds with the second highest churn rate in the industry, second only to the company you are buying out who acctually did show improvement from last Q where they had -150K to their customer base due to churn, and had for 2nd Q 15,000 adds with the highest churn rate in the business. Something is broken or else your marketing te...
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Facts show: 1st Q - 650Kish adds, 2nd Q - 450Kish adds with the second highest churn rate in the industry, second only to the company you are buying out who acctually did show improvement from last Q where they had -150K to their customer base due to churn, and had for 2nd Q 15,000 adds with the highest churn rate in the business. Something is broken or else your marketing te...
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Actually, Cingular began in 2000. Much less time than VZW, Sprint, and your predecessors Omnipoint and VoiceStream.
And how much money has T-Mobile been bleeding to undercut the industry? T-Mobile's churn is up there too, and ARPU is lower as well. Not to mention they are behind EVERY major carrier in network development.
And how much money has T-Mobile been bleeding to undercut the industry? T-Mobile's churn is up there too, and ARPU is lower as well. Not to mention they are behind EVERY major carrier in network development.
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April 4, 2000 = day 1 of Verizon Wireless. So how do you figure Cingular has been around for much less time?
True, but they are adding customers at a much higher rate. Now I do know it would be because they are undercutting prices, easy to see, and they are loosing money, but their parent company doesn't seem to care. My point though was the Cingular has something definately wrong looking at the numbers.
True, but they are adding customers at a much higher rate. Now I do know it would be because they are undercutting prices, easy to see, and they are loosing money, but their parent company doesn't seem to care. My point though was the Cingular has something definately wrong looking at the numbers.
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T-Mobile's parent, Deutsche Telekom, does care because T-Mobile is now keeping them afloat. Their international operations are not doing well at all.
My feeling is that many customers are holding off hooking up with Cingular or ATTWS until the deal concludes to see what happens. Past experience with mergers has not been good from a customer standpoint. VZW had huge billing issues, and some coverage problems as well, during their last big acquisition. Cingular had some issues in the early going when they began GSM conversion. This, in my opinion, is why adds have basically leveled off. Our plans are stronger than ever, our coverage is growing exponentially, and we have the best handset selection of any carrier. Once the AWE deal closes, th...
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My feeling is that many customers are holding off hooking up with Cingular or ATTWS until the deal concludes to see what happens. Past experience with mergers has not been good from a customer standpoint. VZW had huge billing issues, and some coverage problems as well, during their last big acquisition. Cingular had some issues in the early going when they began GSM conversion. This, in my opinion, is why adds have basically leveled off. Our plans are stronger than ever, our coverage is growing exponentially, and we have the best handset selection of any carrier. Once the AWE deal closes, th...
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Could you guys give me some info, on where you get this uh... info? I mean what web site, or what-have you, I'd like to see it so, i can make some comparisons etc.
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The info I stated about T-Mobile USA carrying DT appeared in yesterdays US version of the Financial Times, and the Eastern Edition of the Wall Street Journal.
As for churn, gross adds, etc. check out the company's quarterly reports.
As for churn, gross adds, etc. check out the company's quarterly reports.
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From Friday 8/13/04's US Edition of the Financial Times:
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Deutsche Telekomcontinues to grow in all the wrong places, notably in US mobile telephony. The snag is that almost all of Telekom's free cash flow is still generated at home. Despite promotions of broadband internet access, its domestic fixed line business continues to suffer. Despite cost-savings, this year's profitability target for German mobile is looking ambitious. For now, T-Mobile USA should continue to increase market share. On an operating basis, the US subsidiary might even cease burning cash by the end of tho year, although it looks set to resume doing so next year to expand its network. After Telekom's long underperformance against the broader market, it is s...
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