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Sprint has the largest voice network

Platypus

Nov 8, 2006, 1:52 PM
Who Really Has the Largest Cellular Network?
Thu Sep 14, 2006 1:36PM EDT


You've seen the commercials. You've heard the debates. You can't go a week without hearing Verizon Wireless, Cingular, or Sprint claim to have the biggest or fastest wireless network in America... or sometimes all three of them!

So who's right? Who really does have the biggest cellular network in the U.S.? I put the question to the big three networks to find out how they make their claims and what data they had to back it up. (And while I love T-Mobile as much as anyone, its network is decidedly smaller in both coverage and number of subscribers, nor do they make such grandiose claims, so it was originally excluded in this survey (update below).)

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LilShorty

Nov 8, 2006, 5:52 PM
My understanding is that Alltel is largest geographically but not popularion wise b/c it doesn't have it's own towers in insignificant places like New York City. ;-P
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renardlee

Nov 8, 2006, 6:22 PM
very interesting article but i dont understand how sprint has more coverage than the bigger providers such as verizon and cingular, im not saying i dont believe the article but i want to know how sprint covers more people than cingular and verizon
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Rob545

Nov 8, 2006, 7:05 PM
AMPS roaming
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wombough

Nov 8, 2006, 7:38 PM
Not only AMPS roaming but digital roaming. They have more roaming agreements then any other carrier. However with that said I agree with the poster. All three are great providers and have great service. It is an individual thing as which one would be better for you.
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bkw79

Nov 8, 2006, 8:23 PM
No all three are not great. The only one who has been proven to be great, is Verizon. They prove it each year with JD Powers, and they prove it with having the most net adds, and fewest amount of people leaving each quarter. They are certainly not achieving this because they are cheaper in price( ala sprint and t-mobile), nor because they have the fanciest phones....so why the success, with no one else coming close? "It's the Network". Take for example, Cingular.....they had to buy AT&T to take Verizon's spot as number one, and they had a nice lead over Verizon after that. What has been the outcome so far? Verizon is less than 2 million behind them. I won't even waist my time with TMobile, but since Sprint was mentioned. They lose m...
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ygbhen

Nov 8, 2006, 9:13 PM
Its not a friggin joke. Read what the thread says. No one is saying that Sprint is better, it just says they cover a larger area. But who really cares, people will buy and use what works best for them, not what JD or anyone else says ๐Ÿ™„
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bkw79

Nov 8, 2006, 9:50 PM
I didn't say they will buy what JD says, no one has to tell them, they are just buying Verizon more, and leaving Sprint more. Plain and simple.
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schlittertex

Nov 9, 2006, 9:41 AM
Actually depending on what Region you live in because according to JD POWER, T-Mobile ranks higher in CS in the SW, and Call quality goes to Alltell followed by T-Mobile and then Verizon.

http://www.jdpower.com/telecom/ratings/wireless/call ... »
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Anxiovert

Nov 9, 2006, 9:50 AM
Which proves how erroneous these "results" are. ๐Ÿ™„
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schlittertex

Nov 9, 2006, 10:19 AM
I was just using the same data source that the person before me was trying to use to prove that Verizon is the best, so talk to them about it.

And how do you know how erroneous they are?
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bkw79

Nov 9, 2006, 11:29 AM
He is right, in that region. However, look at the overall rankings, and tell me who is on top. Of course it shows Verizon Wireless. If T-Mobile was as good almost everywhere, as Verizon is, then they'd be at least closer to Verizon in number of customers. They already have cheaper calling plans....that coupled with this "superior voice service" and customer service, it's a wonder why Verizon's numbers are better than everyone else's.
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schlittertex

Nov 9, 2006, 11:38 AM
Well see there in lies the problem, you would think region would dictate consumer choice, but it obviously doesn't. T-Mobile was Higher CS wise, but Alltell was better at Call Quality. Didn't want to leave them out of the equation.
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schlittertex

Nov 9, 2006, 11:40 AM
In the Southwest region that is.
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wombough

Nov 9, 2006, 5:09 PM
Since you want to talk about cingular havening to buy att to become number one. Tell me this! How many companies have merged in the past to form the current Verizon Wireless?
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schlittertex

Nov 9, 2006, 5:18 PM
LOL mixtures of Vodafone and Verizon communications.

Verizon Communications is the accumulation of Bell Atlantic, NYNEX Mobile, AirTouch, PrimeCo, and GTE Mobilnet.

AirTouch megred with Vodafone in 1999, and then they merged with Bell Atlantic Corp, which was Bell Atlantic NYNEX at the time.
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wombough

Nov 9, 2006, 5:20 PM
my point exactly. Thank you. The poster wanted to point out two companies merging when verizon is made up of at least 4.
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wombough

Nov 9, 2006, 5:23 PM
cingular, verizon, and tmobile are a group of combined wireless companies that were merged to form the present company. To Sprint defense they have merged with how many? One that I know of and that will take a long time to complete the integration.
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Yellowrose

Nov 10, 2006, 2:15 AM
Not sure what is that funny about mergers, if it works, it works, bottom line. Right?
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schlittertex

Nov 10, 2006, 8:21 AM
Nothing is funny about mergers but someone had posted that Cingular had to buy its customers with mergers, and we were pointing out that no company in the cell phone market has been immune to this.
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xyzpdq123456

Nov 9, 2006, 10:22 AM
screw sprint they suck!!!
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Yellowrose

Nov 8, 2006, 10:30 PM
That is a great post, Platpus! ๐Ÿ˜Ž I have/work for Verizon (not due to working there, I have had it for 4 yrs prior) but there is not one company out there that will or can work great for everyone.. So, I agree and always say myself, ask around where you use it most, see what's working try it out..Especially in the rural areas, it's a fact some providers work better than others, all comes down to your location. Whatever works best should be your chose!
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wombough

Nov 9, 2006, 5:10 PM
nice post you work form them and still rather tell the truth then to blindly state verizon is the god of wireless!!
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Yellowrose

Nov 10, 2006, 1:58 AM
wombough said:
nice post you work form them and still rather tell the truth then to blindly state verizon is the god of wireless!!


I do everyday, while I do believe overall "network wise" Verizon excels, I am also not ignorant enough to feel it is the BEST everywhere, because that is simply not the truth.. There are areas everywhere across the USA where one provider may very well work better than the other.. Think people should get the very best for their location..
That is just my own little opinion, of course! Have a good one, wombough! ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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THE BOX

Nov 9, 2006, 9:55 AM
Come on this is the first cell tech out and sprint still uses it ? my understanding sprint doesnt own a whole lot of anything they have alot of agreements
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ArmySF

Nov 9, 2006, 12:06 PM
THE BOX said:
my understanding sprint doesnt own a whole lot of anything they have alot of agreements



no they own stuff
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โ€ยข Over 1600 cell sites have been added to the iDEN network this year.
โ€ยข 2400 cell cites have been added to the CDMA network this year, with a total of 8000 new sites by the end of 2008.
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THE BOX

Nov 9, 2006, 12:32 PM
ok let me ask
why are they building iden sites? theve already agrreed to sell it when integration is complete ? and any idea how many sprint owned towers are in operation
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wombough

Nov 9, 2006, 5:13 PM
they have not made any concrete plans to do anything with IDEN. And they do not operate any AMPS they built their digital network from the ground up and only operate digital 1900.
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bkw79

Nov 9, 2006, 8:24 PM
That is how they started out, made up of smaller companies. However, when the companies were on a level playing field.....then the truth came out.....thats why, even when Cingular bought AT&T, Verizon caught them so quickly. Do the friggin' math. You can't contest that. VZW started by building from smaller companies, but they are so large today because of their success each quarter. Cingular was behind VZW before, but VZW was killing everyone, then, Cingular bought another company to be the largest. Verizon, used their own success, and net adds to be less then 2 million. For you to even argue against what I have said shows that you have no common sense. Look at every report that talks about the success in the wireless industry, and t...
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Yellowrose

Nov 10, 2006, 2:11 AM
Yep, don't think any of the major players were original companies, starting from the ground.. TMo started with mergers, sure the others probably did as well..so VZW may have started with small mergers, but definitely made smart decisions from day one. None of the other companies have came that far when starting out that way...
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bkw79

Nov 10, 2006, 8:01 AM
exactly, this is my clear point. The other posters who disagreed were just denying the facts, because "the truth hurts". LOL Its just so obvious, every article you read about the wireless industry touts Verizon as the best because of everything I said. Yet, they think they still have an argument against it? Come on now. Each company has it's strong points. I feel Sprint, has excellent data services, excellent data plans, and the most high speed coverage. Cingular, has a combination of strong points. Tmobile, has good price plans and features, and superb customer service. They all have strengths and weakness concerning voice quality. However, Verizon has shown to have a higher combination of strong points, and is the best, on avera...
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wombough

Nov 10, 2006, 12:13 PM
I don't deny any facts. However mergers will happen and verizon is not done merging in my opinion. They have talked about a verizon sprint merger and so forth. So not if but when verizon merges with another big company will this wash away that verizon still is a sound company? No. So don't put words in my mouth. Verizon has made great decisions and can market very well. Their network does not make them as great as they are but their ability to market it to people. They could have the worst (which they don't) network and with as well as they market still be almost as good as they are now.
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ArmySF

Nov 10, 2006, 12:20 PM
wombough said:
They could have the worst (which they don't) network and with as well as they market still be almost as good as they are now.



BS ppl would know they suck and switch!! thats why many sprint and tmobile customers are porting to verizon and cingular. yes they have great adverting but their network it what gets folks to stay bottom line.
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wombough

Nov 10, 2006, 12:25 PM
whatever your opinion. As I have stated before I have had every cell phone service there has been in the last 10 yrs. In the military I have moved alot and gone places were most have not. All of them are about the same for quality of voice and data. There is not one that is so much better then the other. So what I am saying is verizon can be the best network or 2nd or 3rd. They are all to close and marketing and the name means allot. Sprint has a bad name to some people just like ATT and I think if they change cingular to att it will hurt them alto.
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ArmySF

Nov 10, 2006, 12:41 PM
wombough said:
All of them are about the same for quality of voice and data.



Hell no you can subscribe to whatever retarded logic you wish, but you're wrong.
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wombough

Nov 10, 2006, 1:15 PM
I forgot you must be a damn expert. Whatever makes you happy you believe. Ever one has their strengths and weaknesses it is like that with everything and everyone. No one is godlike people or companies. But you fanboys kill me I love reading things like that.
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ArmySF

Nov 10, 2006, 1:31 PM
You said it not me, yeah sprint with their 200k net, and tmoible with their 3% churn, yep I guess thats their A game. They're sub par deal with it.

The people have spoken and you don't like it ๐Ÿคฃ
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wombough

Nov 10, 2006, 1:34 PM
like always why cant you read before you type? I said sprint sucks at marketing and their name sucks to allot of people. That is half their problem. Just like the latest commercials the most powerful data network and then they put up the katana that doesn't even have power vision. I am saying verizon has a great network, name, and awesome marketing.
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ArmySF

Nov 10, 2006, 1:36 PM
wombough said:
I am saying verizon has a great network, name, awesome marketing, and is the best carrier



We know!!! thanks ๐Ÿ™‚
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wombough

Nov 10, 2006, 1:45 PM
WOW you need to open your mind. You must be like 12
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ArmySF

Nov 10, 2006, 1:59 PM
wombough said:
WOW you need to open your mind. You must be like 12



Wait I thought you wanted to have intellectual conversations, did me being right all the time irritate you. I agree all carriers have their strong and weak points, but they all don't have about the same voice quality, thats a ridiculous statement, are you going to stick with that statement?
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wombough

Nov 10, 2006, 3:34 PM
Yeah I am. Voice is Voice its the same technology. Digital you have service or not. My friend has verizon has problems with some calls. Another has cingular has problems with some calls, another with alltell again has problems with some calls. You get the point. I have sprint I have problems with some calls. But we all have 99% of the time excellent call quality regardless of the network. I have used all their phones too and cant really tell nor am I that picky. If the other person can hear my good I am satisfied.
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wombough

Nov 10, 2006, 1:47 PM
all you see is the last post. Put it all together as what I am trying to say goes with the whole post. I know you verizon fanboys cant open you minds up but to argue and say verizon is the best.
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New_2_T-Mobile

Nov 10, 2006, 2:05 PM
army has laid the smack down on you ๐Ÿคฃ
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wombough

Nov 10, 2006, 3:30 PM
how do you figure?? Please enlighten me with your wisdom.
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schlittertex

Nov 10, 2006, 8:26 AM
Uhm, Vodafone isn't big? Guess you have never been to England, or saw Man U play in EPL last year.


"Vodafone Group plc is a British mobile phone operator headquartered in Newbury, Berkshire, England. It is the largest mobile telecommunications network company in the world by turnover and has a market value of about ร‚ยฃ65 billion (October 2006). Vodafone currently has equity interests in 27 countries and Partner Networks (networks in which it has no equity stake) in a further 33 countries. Its portfolio of global services, supported by its global brand, is available in a total of 59 countries. The name Vodafone comes from Voice data fone, chosen by the company to "reflect the provision of voice and data services over mobile phones."[1]"
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schlittertex

Nov 10, 2006, 8:29 AM
"Vodafone Group (formerly Vodafone AirTouch) owns 45%1" OF VERIZON WIRELESS! LOL (mockingly laughing out loud that is). So please tell me where Verizon DIDN'T do the same thing.
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wombough

Nov 10, 2006, 12:16 PM
So one could argue verizon is almost two compaies as I don't believe they own anything in Vodafone. Sprint and alltell is not a joint venture. Cingular is with Bellsouth until the merger goes through if it does.
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schlittertex

Nov 10, 2006, 12:42 PM
Vodafone owns 45 % of Verizon Wireless, and Verizon Communications owns 55 %, so it doesn't exactly work the way you are presenting it. Verizon wireless is owned by two companies, that are the result of multiple mergers. If you are owned by a company, you are not going to own them.
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schlittertex

Nov 10, 2006, 2:05 PM
but I agree with what you are saying about how no one company is better in all aspects then the others. People don't account for region at all when they present the numbers, nor do they account in their arguments how many people that were added belonged to a family plan. Because the parents make the decision on that, not the kids, and Texting and Calling wise, Verizon makes more since to parents if their friends have verizon. But to just say one company is better than the other is absurd. Its almost like the argument I use to my friends who think that Haliburton is the devil. Without Haliburton, smaller oil companies would never get the chance at subcontracts, AT ALL, and then we would lose millions to billions of dollars to foreign com...
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