Cellular reliability and pricing
I've posted several threads regarding cellular pricing, particularly, Verizon's pricing plans and how I feel they haven't kept up with the times. Anyway, I received several responses, mostly negative and disagreeing. One subject in particular that was raised is cellular reliability in general. It is my position that cellular service in general is unreliable and one company bragging that they are "more" reliable than the next is pretty much meaningless.
Pagers are the gold standard in wireless reliability. One person responding to this statement said comparing pagers to cell phones is like comparing apples to oranges. This doesn't surprise me, though. Most people who don't want to admit you made a good point in a comparison simply use this...
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Pagers are the gold standard in wireless reliability. One person responding to this statement said comparing pagers to cell phones is like comparing apples to oranges. This doesn't surprise me, though. Most people who don't want to admit you made a good point in a comparison simply use this...
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Please for the love of God stop. Comparing a pager to a cell phone is like comparing apples to oranges. Who cares if you can get paged with a pager if you CANNOT EVEN CALL THE PERSON BACK. What is the point?
I can't believe you are wasting your time debating this topic, pagers are funny to me, not an option in any way. Will it put your overdosed mind at ease if I agree with you that not all cell phone companies have flawless coverage? I mean we all knew that already so chill the f out.
I can't believe you are wasting your time debating this topic, pagers are funny to me, not an option in any way. Will it put your overdosed mind at ease if I agree with you that not all cell phone companies have flawless coverage? I mean we all knew that already so chill the f out.
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Why should I stop? You don't stop. Neither does anyone else. And there again, the old "apples and oranges" cliche. The issue is RELIABILITY.
If someone pages you, you most certainly CAN call them back. It's called a payphone. And at least with the pager, you know for certain someone is trying to call you, whereas with a cellphone, if you're in a dead zone, you neither get the call nor can you call that person trying to reach you in vain getting only your voicemail back, so what's the difference? Neither way can you call OUT.
My mind is no more overdosed than some of these people who constantly flame others on the forum for disagreeing with them. I give you credit for not doing that. But, it's a free country, and if you don't like the d...
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If someone pages you, you most certainly CAN call them back. It's called a payphone. And at least with the pager, you know for certain someone is trying to call you, whereas with a cellphone, if you're in a dead zone, you neither get the call nor can you call that person trying to reach you in vain getting only your voicemail back, so what's the difference? Neither way can you call OUT.
My mind is no more overdosed than some of these people who constantly flame others on the forum for disagreeing with them. I give you credit for not doing that. But, it's a free country, and if you don't like the d...
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Did you say payphone? How old are you? Who is it that taught you about this funky internet thing. FREAKING PAYPHONE. Amazing. I haven't seen a payphone since I watched the Matrix. My god. get a hold of yourself.
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The reason you have not seen a payphone is because they are all in the dead zones so that jrfdsf can return calls.
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Okay yes jrfdsf does post a lot of things on here that have caused outrage, some stuff I think he says is correct, I do not necessarily think he does it in the most tactful way but that is neither here nor there...
I have to tell you I am 24, not what you would call old, especially since I get carded everywhere I go because I look 17, and I must admit that I would rather have a pay phone on the side of the road at a gas station any day over a cell phone in real serious situations.
In fact that is why I always carry enough for a pay phone, and I feel like we need more on our city streets. The reason you see less is because of Vandalism and not so much a declining need for them. But the poster proves a good point, pagers are more relia...
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I have to tell you I am 24, not what you would call old, especially since I get carded everywhere I go because I look 17, and I must admit that I would rather have a pay phone on the side of the road at a gas station any day over a cell phone in real serious situations.
In fact that is why I always carry enough for a pay phone, and I feel like we need more on our city streets. The reason you see less is because of Vandalism and not so much a declining need for them. But the poster proves a good point, pagers are more relia...
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There are pay phones still in Houston that work?
We don't even have pay phones here anymore. Well, there maybe one or two here and there, but I honestly can't remember the last time I saw a pay phone.
And as for a pager... Again, where are there pagers to be had? The only place I can think that I've seen them last is on McDowell road in West Phoenix... the same area that has drive through liqeour stores...
People don't uses pagers anymore because cell phones work to a capacity that have caused pagers to become obselete.
We don't even have pay phones here anymore. Well, there maybe one or two here and there, but I honestly can't remember the last time I saw a pay phone.
And as for a pager... Again, where are there pagers to be had? The only place I can think that I've seen them last is on McDowell road in West Phoenix... the same area that has drive through liqeour stores...
People don't uses pagers anymore because cell phones work to a capacity that have caused pagers to become obselete.
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Well some of the ones in Houston work, if punk kids haven't gotten to them lol. And you make a good point about pagers, but he/she was using this as an example and I think over posting probably did this person in, but there are some fields where pagers are still needed because they are more reliable. Its not enough to send the cell phone business, out of business, but it is enough to where we still have them because of issues of reliability. Personally I like it when I can't be reached at certain times, especially the holidays when drunk friends are calling, and I am with a special someone, and I know I don't want to leave nor does she, so if the call never gets to me, that makes me even more happy, lol.
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LOL Psychics...
Keep in mind I'm only a couple hours away from Sedona where alot of people go because they claim there are special magnetic properties.
Its still better than West "The Hill's have eyes" Texas.
Plus we will from time to time get a bunch of kooks from LA that come here to Scottsdale because they can't afford malibu anymore they bring their Scientology/New Age/Wicca crap.
They are always good for laugh... then they get annoying, then the real Phoenicians turn mean and they move away, usually back to Cali saying "ohh the weather its too hot".
Keep in mind I'm only a couple hours away from Sedona where alot of people go because they claim there are special magnetic properties.
Its still better than West "The Hill's have eyes" Texas.
Plus we will from time to time get a bunch of kooks from LA that come here to Scottsdale because they can't afford malibu anymore they bring their Scientology/New Age/Wicca crap.
They are always good for laugh... then they get annoying, then the real Phoenicians turn mean and they move away, usually back to Cali saying "ohh the weather its too hot".
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LMAO!!!!
That is awesome.
See, I am trying to steal people away from Scientology.
My friends and I, as a joke, are creating the Church of Moronology, lol.
There are three elders including me, and all we are doing is adding L. Ron before our names lol.
It should be awesome.
That is awesome.
See, I am trying to steal people away from Scientology.
My friends and I, as a joke, are creating the Church of Moronology, lol.
There are three elders including me, and all we are doing is adding L. Ron before our names lol.
It should be awesome.
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I can't stomach Scientology. Kooks and wackos, the entire lot.
... Although L Ron Hubbard has lived my dream.
As a kid growing up, I loved Tokien, so much to the point that I went to Exeter College. When I finished reading the Silmarilion for the umpteenth million time, I theorized that if intelligent aliens were given the Bible, Koran, the Torah, and the Silmarilion and asked which book was the historical record of Man, the Silmarilion would be the book chosen.
Note, I do include the Upanishads or the Rig Vedas of the Hindus because those tomes of books and stories are unlike anything I've ever read in any other religions.
But anyway, my dream has been to write a book that people a thousand years from now, as they come back ou...
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... Although L Ron Hubbard has lived my dream.
As a kid growing up, I loved Tokien, so much to the point that I went to Exeter College. When I finished reading the Silmarilion for the umpteenth million time, I theorized that if intelligent aliens were given the Bible, Koran, the Torah, and the Silmarilion and asked which book was the historical record of Man, the Silmarilion would be the book chosen.
Note, I do include the Upanishads or the Rig Vedas of the Hindus because those tomes of books and stories are unlike anything I've ever read in any other religions.
But anyway, my dream has been to write a book that people a thousand years from now, as they come back ou...
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Yeah I see what you are saying about the literary aspect, I just like the money aspect lol.
Wow, I have never heard any one outside of Tokien friends and historians say the name Silmarilion, I have wanted to read it but these days with work and going back for a second degree, I haven't had time to read much of anything.
Wow, I have never heard any one outside of Tokien friends and historians say the name Silmarilion, I have wanted to read it but these days with work and going back for a second degree, I haven't had time to read much of anything.
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as i stated pagers are used by doctors due to the fact of COST not reliability. and also some hospitals are still thinking that cell phones affect life support machines maybe???? not because they are reliable. it all comes down to money. pagers are cheap the service is cheap with no way of running up a bill. its a base cost. thats the reason and that comes from hospital directors i have spoke to personally in business meetings. so like i said the argument doesnt hold up.
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Well NAVY SEALs use them too, along with cell phones, for their reach out and touch/caress someone ability.
LOL little humor to get me through the work day, most people are taking off since its near Christmas, Chanukah, and Kwanza (spelling?), so its pretty dead, but I am going to be able to eat my favorite Fajita Chicken Enchiladas so I am going to be content today.
LOL little humor to get me through the work day, most people are taking off since its near Christmas, Chanukah, and Kwanza (spelling?), so its pretty dead, but I am going to be able to eat my favorite Fajita Chicken Enchiladas so I am going to be content today.
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Even if there was payphones I'd be SOL because I don't carry cash or change with me and 1-800-COLLECT is will financially destroy who ever your calling.
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I'm 38 years old and payphones still work. Much better than cellphones, I might add. You still didn't answer my question: what good is a cellphone if you have NO SIGNAL? Who can you call? AS far as not having change, have you ever heard of phone cards? they still sell 'em. Most local phone companies will send you a phone card free of charge and only charge you if you use them. Besides, when your making a local call, what's so difficult about keeping a little change in your pockets? It's worked for me for years.
If you had read my thread closely, you would have seen that I'm NOT suggesting folks get rid of their cellphones and substitute a pager, but if they need RELIABLE service, and the ability to get a call whenever or wherever they are...
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If you had read my thread closely, you would have seen that I'm NOT suggesting folks get rid of their cellphones and substitute a pager, but if they need RELIABLE service, and the ability to get a call whenever or wherever they are...
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I'm 38 years old and payphones still work.FALSE
Much better than cellphones, I might add.FALSE
You still didn't answer my question: what good is a cellphone if you have NO SIGNAL? Who can you call? WHO CAN YOU CALL WITH A PAGER? SILLY
AS far as not having change, have you ever heard of phone cards? YEAH I USED THEM WHEN I WAS 14 AND DIDN'T HAVE A CELL PHONE
they still sell 'em. Most local phone companies will send you a phone card free of charge and only charge you if you use them. Besides, when your making a local call, what's so difficult about keeping a little change in your pockets? It's worked for me for years. I USE DEBIT CARDS, CHANGE IS INCONVENIENT
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I'm not 38 years old? Thats news to me. I could've sworn I was born in 1968. Oh well, Your response to who can you call with a pager? Whose message will you receive OUT OF COVERAGE ON A CELLPHONE? I can always find a phone, but I don't always know if someone is trying to get in touch with me on a cellphone.
Pagers my friend, are still more reliable than a cellphone. Relying on a cellphone to get a call when your out of coverage is the huge mistake. What if you had a sick family member and were away from home? Would you really rely on that cellphone clipped to your belt maybe not getting an adequate signal to ring?
Again, I'm not saying get rid of your cellphone! I'm saying get a beeper, if you need one, then, if you get an emergency c...
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Pagers my friend, are still more reliable than a cellphone. Relying on a cellphone to get a call when your out of coverage is the huge mistake. What if you had a sick family member and were away from home? Would you really rely on that cellphone clipped to your belt maybe not getting an adequate signal to ring?
Again, I'm not saying get rid of your cellphone! I'm saying get a beeper, if you need one, then, if you get an emergency c...
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People did survive without power back in the days. So if I miss a call its not the end of the world? Leave a message I will get back to you!!
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That might work well for you, and you may not personally need that level of reliability. My statements are more about folks who are doctors, emergency crew workers, or people with sick family members or awaiting organ donations and THEIR need for reliable communication.
If we really want to get right down to it, do any of us even really need cellphones at all? My point has been from start to finish that cellphones are all about convenience. Having the convenience of making or receiving a call without the need of trying to find another phone.
For those among us who need reliable communication, I'm just simply suggesting ADDING (not substituting) a beeper. No one on this forum even remotely gets this. To listen to some of the responses I...
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If we really want to get right down to it, do any of us even really need cellphones at all? My point has been from start to finish that cellphones are all about convenience. Having the convenience of making or receiving a call without the need of trying to find another phone.
For those among us who need reliable communication, I'm just simply suggesting ADDING (not substituting) a beeper. No one on this forum even remotely gets this. To listen to some of the responses I...
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Let me say everything in life except water and food is a convenience! Your house, lights, water, computer, your so reliable pager is a convenience. Those people use pagers because its cheaper then a cell phone nothing more. I have friends in some of those occupations you listed and its about money not reliability! Pagers do not have service everywhere! There coverage map well at least skytels was less then impressive.
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When I worked in commercial radio, all the engineers had a cell phone and a pager. The cell phone was set to no answer transfer calls to the pager. So after 30 seconds, if you don't answer the phone, people just get 3 beeps to put in their call back number. This system worked EVERYWHERE. Even if your cellphone can't make a call, you know you need to either get to a place it can call or use any available phone to call back. Sometimes the calls were about transmitter issues that were costing the company thousands of dollars per minute of downtime.
Oddly enough, the cell phones we had were from Verizon back then and I think it was Verizon paging too. The phones didn't work at the transmitter sites but the pagers did. We had microwave phone ...
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Oddly enough, the cell phones we had were from Verizon back then and I think it was Verizon paging too. The phones didn't work at the transmitter sites but the pagers did. We had microwave phone ...
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True, I hear that there is something called "Blue Ray" in the pipe lines but the heck with that, why would anybody want it? There are sooooooo many more VHS and Beta tapes out there, its a no brainer!
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I think Blue-ray is like a Toyota and HD DVD is like a pager.
I couldn't resist.
I couldn't resist.
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I actually think that laser disc is a muchmore reliable media format. It is kind of like pager in that respect.
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look this is going on and on when all points have been heard already. this is useless. i think everyone knows pagers are reliable. do you sell pagers? cause you sure push them on here. but the reason people use pagers is not for reliability. hospitals use them to cut COST. not because they are reliable. why give someone a cell phone so they can run up a bill? and like pepsi and i am sure others have said. cell phones are the norm. accept it. reliable in your eyes or not. thats the deal. what good is getting a page in the boonies when you cant call back? anywhere where there is demand usually cell phones work. you cant make an emergency call on a pager so your argument doesnt hold up. can we drop this please it has been going on for long enou...
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there have been at least 5 threads from this guy complaining about the same thing!! has anybody reported this to the mods yet??
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You obviously haven't read any of my threads closely at all, or you would know better than that. I'm sure I've been reported several times by now, but most of the ones complaining are probably on probation themselves for posting hurtful, slanderous and malicious things to flame other posters in this and other forums.
What crime have I committed may I ask? All I have done is offer my opinions about pagers, plan pricing, and the responses I've received in return. I have insulted no one, cursed no one, nor have I questioned anyone's character or integrity, which is a lot more than I can say for some folks who post in these forums.
If we can't be free to express opinions in a forum, then why have one? I'm sorry to see that you dislike what...
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What crime have I committed may I ask? All I have done is offer my opinions about pagers, plan pricing, and the responses I've received in return. I have insulted no one, cursed no one, nor have I questioned anyone's character or integrity, which is a lot more than I can say for some folks who post in these forums.
If we can't be free to express opinions in a forum, then why have one? I'm sorry to see that you dislike what...
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Grow a pair and make sure you know what you are talking about before you open your mouth (or keyboard)!
Paging - The Gold Standard in Wireless!
You can't be serious...but apparently you believe it so it must be true. Say anything long enough and it becomes real! Just ask Pinoccio!
Paging - The Gold Standard in Wireless!
You can't be serious...but apparently you believe it so it must be true. Say anything long enough and it becomes real! Just ask Pinoccio!
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My question is, how do you know any different? What facts do you have to support what you think? All I hear from you is insults, and "I don't know what I'm talking about", those, my friend are slogans, not facts.
Have you ever owned a pager? Do you know how they work? Have you ever asked anyone who's ever owned one what they think about them? I'll bet the answer to these questions is probably, no.
Pagers are the gold standard in wireless reliability because they don't constantly lose calls like cellphones do. They also aren't restricted by things such as trees, metal buildings and being clipped to a belt or inside a purse like ALL cellphones are.
You could miss an important call from someone simply because your cellphone is clipped ...
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Have you ever owned a pager? Do you know how they work? Have you ever asked anyone who's ever owned one what they think about them? I'll bet the answer to these questions is probably, no.
Pagers are the gold standard in wireless reliability because they don't constantly lose calls like cellphones do. They also aren't restricted by things such as trees, metal buildings and being clipped to a belt or inside a purse like ALL cellphones are.
You could miss an important call from someone simply because your cellphone is clipped ...
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It's not "me", it's everyone else responding to my posts. Hey, I guess I could just rollover and let everyone who wanted to make me out to be a liar, moron, fool etc., and never respond, but then I'd just be another "mama's boy", wouldn't I?
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Pagers are known to not receive a page. Just like any communication network it can too have issues. I had a pager when I was 15 or 16. It operated on the 900mg band and had issues just like cellphones. The problem with pagers is it does not store your page. It does not go to voice mail to retrieve it later. Dr use pagers because most of the time they are not required to callback. They get paged and they report to who paged them. I don't get you at all this is not ment as mean or anything but your logic is off the chart. ANd not the good way! Landlines are not 100% reliable. They are only capable of say 30% - 40% of all people that have it to use it at the same time. If too many people are using it you get that all circuits are busy! Nothi...
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Please tell me this is all a joke. Because you can't obviously be serious. You just can't. You're bored at work, you probably work as a CSR, maybe for one of VZW's competitors, and you're sick of your job and stupid customers.
God knows I would be too.
But if you are serious, I actually have some near vintage condition New Wave CD's in storage. We're talking all but brand new CD's from like 82=85 because apparently that is the decade that you are living in.
Or, to fans of Greg Bear, are you a Naderite? Read Aeon, probably the most incredible sci-fi/sci-fact book I've ever read.
But anyway, I gotta go. I'm having a massive "No Panties" New Years eve party here at my place and I gotta see if any of the LOS girls are going t...
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God knows I would be too.
But if you are serious, I actually have some near vintage condition New Wave CD's in storage. We're talking all but brand new CD's from like 82=85 because apparently that is the decade that you are living in.
Or, to fans of Greg Bear, are you a Naderite? Read Aeon, probably the most incredible sci-fi/sci-fact book I've ever read.
But anyway, I gotta go. I'm having a massive "No Panties" New Years eve party here at my place and I gotta see if any of the LOS girls are going t...
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adilus said:
But if you are serious, I actually have some near vintage condition New Wave CD's in storage. We're talking all but brand new CD's from like 82=85 because apparently that is the decade that you are living in.
Do you actually have some of those? Any from CBS/Sony Japan starting with catalog number '35DP'? They actually have some collector value. First pressing parallel imports have a little bit of worth.
If ya don't...ignore me.
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JRFDSF, you are WRONG about pagers. There is NOT blanket coverage all over. Pagers, like cellular, are limited by their transmitter location, frequency and signal type. I worked in paging 6 years before cellular with a major paging carrier.
While the actual working of paging is much simpler than cellular/PCS, it still is terrestrial based and does NOT work where there is no transmitter. Back in the day, Skypagers were satellite controlled, but still only worked where there were transmitters.
Your info and post is wrong.
Good Day!
While the actual working of paging is much simpler than cellular/PCS, it still is terrestrial based and does NOT work where there is no transmitter. Back in the day, Skypagers were satellite controlled, but still only worked where there were transmitters.
Your info and post is wrong.
Good Day!
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JRF has a somewhat valid point. Pagers work in more places than cell phones. But really he's saying:
"Get a pager, they work more places than cell phones! Everyone can always page you, then you can go on a wild goose chase to find somewhere that actually still has a payphone you can use for $3/per minute."
If anyone needs to get hold of me THAT badly.....they know how to find me, or that if they wait 10 minutes, I'll arrive back in a service area to retrieve and respond to voicemails.
"Get a pager, they work more places than cell phones! Everyone can always page you, then you can go on a wild goose chase to find somewhere that actually still has a payphone you can use for $3/per minute."
If anyone needs to get hold of me THAT badly.....they know how to find me, or that if they wait 10 minutes, I'll arrive back in a service area to retrieve and respond to voicemails.
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One way paging service is what I'm talking about. Yes, pagers do have limitations, usually one way pagers are limited to about a 200 mile radius from where they transmit, but within that area, they work almost anywhere. The limittions of a pager are no where near what they are of a cell phone not even close.
Pagers of this sort operate off of high powered antennas, much like fm radio stations do, and usually operate in the 450 mhz range. The beepers themselves are about 5 watts in power compared to a cellphone which operates at less than 1 watt and receive their signal from low powered cellular towers.
What all this means, as you should know, is that dead zones that exist within a cellular coverage area do so because of several factors...
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Pagers of this sort operate off of high powered antennas, much like fm radio stations do, and usually operate in the 450 mhz range. The beepers themselves are about 5 watts in power compared to a cellphone which operates at less than 1 watt and receive their signal from low powered cellular towers.
What all this means, as you should know, is that dead zones that exist within a cellular coverage area do so because of several factors...
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I just bet 🙄
Oh and your house still has asbestos in it's insulation.
And you have a bomb shelter just in case.
And you still drive a Model T everyday.
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Oh and your house still has asbestos in it's insulation.
And you have a bomb shelter just in case.
And you still drive a Model T everyday.
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No, but I did still wear a "Member's Only" jacket up until just a few years ago. My wife finally made me get rid of it. I think she was just jealous because it still fit me.
Seriously, I do still have a C.B. radio in my truck that I rely on for emergency purposes when I'm out of cellular coverage. I've only activated my beeper a few times over the last five years due to family emergencies and the like. The place that still sells pager service in my area also sells Sprint, and I've traded with them for 20 years now. I can pretty much just pick up the phone and call them, and they'll activate that pager anytime I want to for one month at a time, for $5.00 per month.
I guess it's hard for some folks to understand why I keep this older stu...
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Seriously, I do still have a C.B. radio in my truck that I rely on for emergency purposes when I'm out of cellular coverage. I've only activated my beeper a few times over the last five years due to family emergencies and the like. The place that still sells pager service in my area also sells Sprint, and I've traded with them for 20 years now. I can pretty much just pick up the phone and call them, and they'll activate that pager anytime I want to for one month at a time, for $5.00 per month.
I guess it's hard for some folks to understand why I keep this older stu...
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how f'n ridiculous is this. where are the mods at? are they laughing at this as much as everyone else is? 🤣
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the mods are busy being fabulous and finding more news and new phones to add to the site.
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lefteyeiu2006 said:
the mods are busy being fabulous and finding more news and new phones to add to the site.
Hey Lefteye, need a towel to wipe that brown stuff off your nose? 🤣
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I'm not plugging any company, and this particular company won't provide any service where you live, in all likelihood. I was simply giving you the opportunity to talk to these guys for yourself and put forth your arguments to them.
I've had paging service for 20 years, and I've used it enough to know it covers way more places than any cellphone. The chances of being in a situation where I won't get my page vs. not having a signal on my cellphone are slim and none.
Even the folks on this forum who've argued against other things I've posted in the past agree on this point. Forget calling that number, call ANY hospital or doctor's office in the country and ask them. See if any of them think a cellphone is as reliable as a pager.
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I've had paging service for 20 years, and I've used it enough to know it covers way more places than any cellphone. The chances of being in a situation where I won't get my page vs. not having a signal on my cellphone are slim and none.
Even the folks on this forum who've argued against other things I've posted in the past agree on this point. Forget calling that number, call ANY hospital or doctor's office in the country and ask them. See if any of them think a cellphone is as reliable as a pager.
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I'm not plugging any company, and this particular company won't provide any service where you live, in all likelihood. I was simply giving you the opportunity to talk to these guys for yourself and put forth your arguments to them.
I've had paging service for 20 years, and I've used it enough to know it covers way more places than any cellphone. The chances of being in a situation where I won't get my page vs. not having a signal on my cellphone are slim and none.
Even the folks on this forum who've argued against other things I've posted in the past agree on this point. Forget calling that number, call ANY hospital or doctor's office in the country and ask them. See if any of them think a cellphone is
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I appreciate that you have taken time to respond to my post in an intelligent way rather than simply calling me a name or telling me I'm doing what I do because I have evil motives, as some responding to me have.
Pagers being more reliable than cellphones is not however, a misnomer. The fact is that pagers, even those that operate in cellular frequencies, are still far more reliable at delivering a message to you than the very best cellular network and phone can be.
What you said about all pagers operating on cellular networks, however, is incorrect. Some pagers that are one-way in design, operate in the 450 mhz frequency range, MUCH lower than cellular frequencies, which normally are in the 800 mhz range.
Some pagers too, as one p...
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Pagers being more reliable than cellphones is not however, a misnomer. The fact is that pagers, even those that operate in cellular frequencies, are still far more reliable at delivering a message to you than the very best cellular network and phone can be.
What you said about all pagers operating on cellular networks, however, is incorrect. Some pagers that are one-way in design, operate in the 450 mhz frequency range, MUCH lower than cellular frequencies, which normally are in the 800 mhz range.
Some pagers too, as one p...
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dont take everything so serious. i was kidding. now u keep saying hospitals use pagers for reliability which is false. stop saying that. it is totally untrue. doctors on call usually arent in the boonies to where reliability would come into play. at least i would hope not. the patient may be dead by the time they get to civilization 🤣
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Do you have a figure of how many people use Pagers? VS the over 210 million that use cell phones? Wow whats the population if the US? 300 million. So looking at that I would say almost everyone over 14 has a cell phone.
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Pagers operate from a transmitter...that transmitter has a "throw" of 5-10 miles. A paging network has many repeaters to cover 200 miles, NOT ONE!!! Moron!
Hospitals have REPEATERS for paging systems...MORON!
You do not know what you are talking about, you only have bits and pieces of correct information...
What are you trying to prove other than your ignorance?
Skypagers were only relayed by satellites to ground stations then sent thru a local network. The pagers themselves did not receive signals from the satellites! Once again - moron!
Stick to your whiney mess and only talk about things you really know about. This is a place for folks to get information, not your mess...MORON!!!!!!
Hospitals have REPEATERS for paging systems...MORON!
You do not know what you are talking about, you only have bits and pieces of correct information...
What are you trying to prove other than your ignorance?
Skypagers were only relayed by satellites to ground stations then sent thru a local network. The pagers themselves did not receive signals from the satellites! Once again - moron!
Stick to your whiney mess and only talk about things you really know about. This is a place for folks to get information, not your mess...MORON!!!!!!
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Ya know, I don't mind a little discussion of facts, but when people (read as MORONS) post stuff that is nowhere near the actual truth, than I take offense.
Once again, I would hope these posts help someone somewhere with information. When people (read as MORONS) post wrong stuff here there license to type needs to be revoked.
The original subject matter about service being too expensive---then don't buy it! MORON!
Reliability - the only thing for sure is death (MORON!)
IDIOT-MORON, whatever you want to call it...just because you don't like the price of something doesn't mean the price will magically decrease. ECON 101 - supply and demand! MORON!
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Once again, I would hope these posts help someone somewhere with information. When people (read as MORONS) post wrong stuff here there license to type needs to be revoked.
The original subject matter about service being too expensive---then don't buy it! MORON!
Reliability - the only thing for sure is death (MORON!)
IDIOT-MORON, whatever you want to call it...just because you don't like the price of something doesn't mean the price will magically decrease. ECON 101 - supply and demand! MORON!
We provide a service and people CHOOSE to purchase those services based on the...
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Again with the insults! Do you actually think they make what you're saying sound more authoritative? It only makes you sound frustrated and upset, and why should anyone be upset over pagers vs. cellphones?
But let's look at your "facts". Not all paging networks operate in the same way. Let's take Velocita wireless for example. They operate in the 900 mhz SMR band and yes, they do use repeaters throughout the U.S. because they are a nationwide service.
Let's also look at your claim that paging networks only have radio towers that have about a 5 to 10 mile range. That's true for cellphones, but not pagers. Most one-way Pagers operate off of high powered antennas that don't always require backup repeater stations. Much the same way an f....
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But let's look at your "facts". Not all paging networks operate in the same way. Let's take Velocita wireless for example. They operate in the 900 mhz SMR band and yes, they do use repeaters throughout the U.S. because they are a nationwide service.
Let's also look at your claim that paging networks only have radio towers that have about a 5 to 10 mile range. That's true for cellphones, but not pagers. Most one-way Pagers operate off of high powered antennas that don't always require backup repeater stations. Much the same way an f....
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you just used a company that is owned by none other then a Cell company. Sprint/Nextel!!
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and by the way there coverage map doesn't come close to the big 3 cell phones covage maps!!
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In addition to covering a total population of 200 million people in the U.S., Velocita Wireless can provide you with the coverage you need when traveling to Canada, thanks to our partnership with Rogers Communications.
Thought most cell networks reach around 290 million people. Wow every time I look into something you say It gets funnier and funnier!!!
Thought most cell networks reach around 290 million people. Wow every time I look into something you say It gets funnier and funnier!!!
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what happened did you reliable service being owned by a cell phone company hurt? Or they don't cover near the people that cell phones do? Pick one will you!!
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I'm not using Velocita wireless, the only reason I even mentioned them is because I was trying to make a point that it operates differently than other paging systems as well as cellular networks.
Coverage is defined in terms of the quality you receive in the areas you will use it the most. The paging service I've used off and on for example, only covers about a 200 mile radius from where I live. Now, obviously, that isn't 200+ million people. But, where coverage does exist, it has almost ZERO gaps in coverage. Not true with cellphones.
Verizon, Sprint, Cingular, T_Mobile all have HUGE coverage gaps within areas where they supposedly offer coverage. This is not true with one-way only paging systems.
I'm well aware of the fact that S...
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Coverage is defined in terms of the quality you receive in the areas you will use it the most. The paging service I've used off and on for example, only covers about a 200 mile radius from where I live. Now, obviously, that isn't 200+ million people. But, where coverage does exist, it has almost ZERO gaps in coverage. Not true with cellphones.
Verizon, Sprint, Cingular, T_Mobile all have HUGE coverage gaps within areas where they supposedly offer coverage. This is not true with one-way only paging systems.
I'm well aware of the fact that S...
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Until you know the facts, I would suggest you pipe down. Your "facts" about paging are WRONG - and yes, I do know what I am talking about. Looks like Sprint bought this "network" to enhance their current networks. The 900 mhz range with a pager is about 5-10 miles, like I said before. They are NOT high powered like an FM radio transmitter. Keep saying it over and over, tap your heels 3 times, and it becomes true!
THERE IS NO "PAGER" SYSTEM THAT EXISTS AS YOU DESCRIBED - 1 TRANSMITTER/200 MILES COVERAGE.
PAY ATTENTION TO THAT LITTLE DOT AT THE END OF THE LAST SENTENANCE -IT MEANS PERIOD-end of discussion!!!!
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THERE IS NO "PAGER" SYSTEM THAT EXISTS AS YOU DESCRIBED - 1 TRANSMITTER/200 MILES COVERAGE.
PAY ATTENTION TO THAT LITTLE DOT AT THE END OF THE LAST SENTENANCE -IT MEANS PERIOD-end of discussion!!!!
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Again, no two paging systems are alike, but even if they are, you and others cannot get around the fact that pagers are still trusted by more people than cellphones.
I've stated over and over that paging systems are not all alike. I've given out a number for folks to call that exists in my part of the country so that they can call for themselves to see if what I'm saying is true or not, but rather than doing that, everyone would rather just dispute what I'm saying without checking it out for themselves.
I've actually seen paging systems that operated only within a certain building or location. I've even heard of pagers that somehow worked using telephone lines. Don't even ask me about that one.
To say that all paging systems are exa...
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I've stated over and over that paging systems are not all alike. I've given out a number for folks to call that exists in my part of the country so that they can call for themselves to see if what I'm saying is true or not, but rather than doing that, everyone would rather just dispute what I'm saying without checking it out for themselves.
I've actually seen paging systems that operated only within a certain building or location. I've even heard of pagers that somehow worked using telephone lines. Don't even ask me about that one.
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... you and others cannot get around the fact that pagers are still trusted by more people than cellphones.
Why not call them yourself? They've been in business since 1984, and I doubt they've been lying to people for 23 years about how their system operates.
If pagers are so trusted why isn't that more people use them? You make these blanket statements with no comprehension or understanding of what the market truly is.
If you are trying to revitalize the pager industry, I'm sorry its not going to happen. So why don't you take your troll self and leave. Its really getting annoying now.
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The reason more people don't use them is because most people would rather have just one device to make and receive calls and are less interested in reliability than convenience.
Hey, I'm not the one keeping this thing alive, look at all the responses to it. if no one had ever responded or at least disagreed without calling me a liar and other names, it would have ended long ago.
The "market" isn't the issue, it's whether or not cellphones can be trusted. My point has been they cannot. All anyone has to do is look at any cellular provider's own advertising to discover this. Every single one without exception will tell you not only can they not guarantee coverage, but that no one should rely SOLELY on them for emergency communication.
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Hey, I'm not the one keeping this thing alive, look at all the responses to it. if no one had ever responded or at least disagreed without calling me a liar and other names, it would have ended long ago.
The "market" isn't the issue, it's whether or not cellphones can be trusted. My point has been they cannot. All anyone has to do is look at any cellular provider's own advertising to discover this. Every single one without exception will tell you not only can they not guarantee coverage, but that no one should rely SOLELY on them for emergency communication.
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Show me proof were you have something in writing that they are more reliable?
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I have looked at like 15 different pager company. NONE have anywhere close to the coverage as cell phones. So I really am missing your whole logic here!
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Did you call the number I told you about? I don't know which companies you looked at, all I can say is the one I use is great.
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Call them yourself. Ask them. Unfortunately, this is a forum, and presenting something in writing would be a bit difficult.
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Dude, I don't need to call your 1-800-GOLDSTANDARD number ...I worked in the paging industry for 6 years...before it COLLAPSED!
Paging now is a niche product. There is NO PAGING SYSYEM WITH 1 TRANSMITTER BROADCASTING FOR 200 MILES. If that is the case, like another post said, New Jersey would need only 1 transmitter for the whole state. I could be in Richmond Virginia and get a page from transmitter in Baltimore. Ain't happening. YOU DON'T HAVE A CLUE ABOUT THE SUBJECT MATTER!
I don't need to call anyone. Maybe you should. FIND OUT THE FACTS.
If you're looking to advertise for that company (a subsidary of Sprint/Nextel) I'm sure Rich and Eric would love to have them as advertisers...until then, keep your erroneous mess to the...
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Paging now is a niche product. There is NO PAGING SYSYEM WITH 1 TRANSMITTER BROADCASTING FOR 200 MILES. If that is the case, like another post said, New Jersey would need only 1 transmitter for the whole state. I could be in Richmond Virginia and get a page from transmitter in Baltimore. Ain't happening. YOU DON'T HAVE A CLUE ABOUT THE SUBJECT MATTER!
I don't need to call anyone. Maybe you should. FIND OUT THE FACTS.
If you're looking to advertise for that company (a subsidary of Sprint/Nextel) I'm sure Rich and Eric would love to have them as advertisers...until then, keep your erroneous mess to the...
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I agree. More people do not trust pagers. Most LEO Departments are going to cell phones because they need two way communication other then the radio. As something just can't be said over the public radio. So if Police trust cell phones they must be decent. Like I said no communication is 100% not even land lines!! Everything that has hardware is subject to failure.
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You too obviously have not read my posts or would know that I don't have a pager through Velocita wireless. I merely used them as an example of a paging network that is different from my own and others.
I figured you wouldn't call that number, because the minute you do, your entire argument is over. Paging systems are all different, and the fact you worked with one for six years doesn't change that.
Why would a paging company that has been in business for 24 years lie about how their system works? Don't you suppose like a lot of other paging companies, they'd be out of business, too? If you promise your customers something and then can't deliver, you'll be under in no time.
The "facts" as you put it, will tell you there are still a...
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I figured you wouldn't call that number, because the minute you do, your entire argument is over. Paging systems are all different, and the fact you worked with one for six years doesn't change that.
Why would a paging company that has been in business for 24 years lie about how their system works? Don't you suppose like a lot of other paging companies, they'd be out of business, too? If you promise your customers something and then can't deliver, you'll be under in no time.
The "facts" as you put it, will tell you there are still a...
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One of the few things I do know for fact it the information you have posted is wrong. Period. End of discussion.
By the way, when you get home tonight, tell your Mom and Dad the folks at PhoneScoop said hello!
By the way, when you get home tonight, tell your Mom and Dad the folks at PhoneScoop said hello!
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Very nice compliment, Frankie...thank you.
Yes, I am old, but not feeble...yet.
Have a nice day!
Yes, I am old, but not feeble...yet.
Have a nice day!
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I did call your number you posted...423-559-2337 and it rang for 15 minutes before I finally hung up. I just wanted to make sure that because they are so very busy with all the paging customers they could get to my call. Alas, they did not.
I did some reverse number search on that number using whitepages.com and it is listed to a "Global Communications Inc." in Cleveland, TN (north of Chattanooga), right next door to the "New Dynasty China Buffet", the "Ford Center for Pain Management" and the "Oakmont Optical Boutique".
All those years in service, I figured they'd be headquarted maybe in a larger town than Cleveland, TN...I actually had to look up Cleveland, TN to see where it was.
But I did go and buy all the stock in the compa...
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I did some reverse number search on that number using whitepages.com and it is listed to a "Global Communications Inc." in Cleveland, TN (north of Chattanooga), right next door to the "New Dynasty China Buffet", the "Ford Center for Pain Management" and the "Oakmont Optical Boutique".
All those years in service, I figured they'd be headquarted maybe in a larger town than Cleveland, TN...I actually had to look up Cleveland, TN to see where it was.
But I did go and buy all the stock in the compa...
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