Sprint will be number 1 in two years
Wow, it basicly states all other carriers are going to stand still with no new initatives for their network. Just cause some major carriers haven't committed to something that wont be deployed until 2008+ doesn't mean there will not be any competition for the Next Gen wireless & data. I'm glad Sprint committed to WiMAX and are going to use QChat for their Sprint/Nextel PTT, but I just see it a magic trick, say the good news to hide the bad news. We'll see what the #'s look like in 2 years though. 8 million is not alot? But that number grows every quarter. So in the next 8 quarters, Sprint will have to pick up 1 million more customers then the top person did in that quarter. Verizon has a hard enough time catching Cingular at 500,000 net adds...
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you just proved what an asses there are in this forum. It was my opinion and mine only. You don't have a magic ball like I don't and it was not stated as fact. Sprint may no longer be around in 2 years. Or Verizon for that matter. Verizon could spin off their local and merge with sprint who the hell knows. Thats why I said I see. Please read it when I wrote "I see".
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Ok, I dont generally agree with what wombough says, and I certianly dont in this matter either, but why the hell would you do somethign so stupid and post this? What the hell does it have to do with Verizon? You are delibertly trying to start something. Get a life man. 🙄
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What I really believe is in 2 to 4 yrs and you can laugh wfine81 or anyone else, is verizon and sprint merger. It has been talked about for a while and could happen if verizon spins off verizon wireless. There is still allot of competition with Cingular, and Tmobile, and possible Alltel if they can become national. But hey anything can happen. That is why most look back and say damn I knew I should have gotton Microsoft stock in 1982. I would be a millionaire now!!
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With the Democrats regaining control I do not see any more mega mergers in the wireless arena so don't losa any sleep waiting for Sprint and VZW to merge. VZW would be lucky to get regulatory approval on a takeover of Alltel and that is a more likely target for VZW.
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You are wrong for three reasons
1. the FCC would never allow it.
2. What would VZW gain by merging with sprint other then the customers? network wise other then a few EVDO towers to strengthen our Data network in citys it wouldnt be worth the money and time
3. see number 1
1. the FCC would never allow it.
2. What would VZW gain by merging with sprint other then the customers? network wise other then a few EVDO towers to strengthen our Data network in citys it wouldnt be worth the money and time
3. see number 1
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I'm not so sure the fcc wouldn't allow it. It's not completely monopolistic because there is definitive competition in most, if not all, markets.
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Yeah once again I love how people will know how the fcc would rule. They have allowed ma bell to almost come back together again with 3 major players left. Well their would be 3 major players left with the merger of what I said. Verizon, Cingular, Tmobile! Not to mention countless local providers and a major regional on Alltel! And yes they would gain customers which would = alot more money that is what the point of a business is!
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Well, Ma Bell is back in one form or another, that's true. I would submit that much of the monoplolistic power is now gone, however. I also don't rule out the FCC saying no, or placing stringent requirements on a possible merger, but I don't seeing them denying it based on possible monopoly concerns.
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Heh. That sounds more like somebody has been smoking the happy pipe.
@wombough: Backing your analysis up with the premise that anything is possible is a bad way for me to take you seriously. As has been stated in the thread, your assumptions predicate that the other carriers will stand still, doing nothing to maintain their current rate of growth, much less increasing it.
Other companies are implementing their own technologies that will directly contend with Sprint's. In additon, wimax hasn't even been ratified yet- there is not a complete, coherent standard. Applications that will take advantage of that are largely unavailable and untested at this stage in the game, so basing such aggressive future customer growth on a market...
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@wombough: Backing your analysis up with the premise that anything is possible is a bad way for me to take you seriously. As has been stated in the thread, your assumptions predicate that the other carriers will stand still, doing nothing to maintain their current rate of growth, much less increasing it.
Other companies are implementing their own technologies that will directly contend with Sprint's. In additon, wimax hasn't even been ratified yet- there is not a complete, coherent standard. Applications that will take advantage of that are largely unavailable and untested at this stage in the game, so basing such aggressive future customer growth on a market...
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the numbers aren't there to keep the grouth up. There are over 200 million ceel phone subscibers. There are only 350 million in the US. Subtract all the children under 10 or so and your down to around 250 million. Soon everyone that can talk will have a cell phone so the only way to increase your numbers is to take form other carriers!
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Certainly, which is an indicator that the growth you are expecting Sprint to undergo will not happen. Taking customers from another carrier is usually harder than reaching a market not yet saturated. There is no substantiated reason to see either Cingular or Verizon losing so many customers to Sprint in such a small period of time.
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data. I could be very wrong but data is going to be huge. And sprint is the only one ready and about to deploy 4g!
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Theoretical 4g. Nothing has been finalized with regards to the spec. Several companies are rolling out equipment based on what they think the end spec will be. Also, why bring up a future spec as a killer app when a large percentage of customers aren't even taking advantage of everything that 3g is capable of?
The services that 4g will provide are still far off in never never land. The media content providers that would best take advantage of the possibilities that 4g offers can barely agree to release low grade audio ringtones, which sell for twice the market price of a full length song. The content providers are a far cry from getting off their lazy corporate ends and actually developing and implementing a coherent market strateg...
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The services that 4g will provide are still far off in never never land. The media content providers that would best take advantage of the possibilities that 4g offers can barely agree to release low grade audio ringtones, which sell for twice the market price of a full length song. The content providers are a far cry from getting off their lazy corporate ends and actually developing and implementing a coherent market strateg...
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maybe but until there is that killer everybody has to have it app I doubt data will be sprints saving grace.. and when that app hits verizon will be there too
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I don't think apps are it. I think its connect the laptop. More and more internet becomes more in our life. Just like phones have become. And I see sprint the only one right now with 4g coming and the spectrum to offer "truely" unlimited data. He who am I lol 🤣 🤣
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I don't think so. I don't disagree with your thoughts on laptops, but laptop access alone will not boost you by 8 million hunams.
Beyond 4g's abilities to implement proper mesh networking, I don't see Sprint rolling out enough in a short span of time to take advantage of any delay in Cingular or Verizon's rollouts. In addition, you aren't taking into account all the private wisps and not for profit types that plan to rollout or integrate wimax into their infrastructure. You'll need a killer app.
Beyond 4g's abilities to implement proper mesh networking, I don't see Sprint rolling out enough in a short span of time to take advantage of any delay in Cingular or Verizon's rollouts. In addition, you aren't taking into account all the private wisps and not for profit types that plan to rollout or integrate wimax into their infrastructure. You'll need a killer app.
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hey whats wrong with the happy pipe 😁
check this out
http://www.bbspot.com/News/2006/12/leisure-suit-larr ... »
check this out
http://www.bbspot.com/News/2006/12/leisure-suit-larr ... »
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great, simulated sex with a wii remote? I never thought Nintendo would do this as most of their games are Mario based.
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They definitely go for the the under 18 bracket in the US, but drop by Japan and you'll see all sorts of "interesting" stuff.
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Platypus,
What is the point of this thread other then to try to create drama? I'm glad to see that it hasn't deteriorated yet to useless fanboyism, but I'm sure that was your intention.
Why wasn't this posted in the Cingular forum? They have the most customers at the moment.
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What is the point of this thread other then to try to create drama? I'm glad to see that it hasn't deteriorated yet to useless fanboyism, but I'm sure that was your intention.
Why wasn't this posted in the Cingular forum? They have the most customers at the moment.
This forum really needs some moderation...
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Comments like yours would be the first step in creating said drama and thus requiring the moderation you speak of.
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I concur the thread is funny it deserves proper attention. The mods are here and they obviously deem it fine so chill.
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So, with Sprint losing a substantial portion of its leadership, having the worst quarters of any wireless national carrier in a long time, integration issues with Nextel and Nextel issues with emergency spectrum migration/delays/additonal costs...
While Sprint overall is gaining in EBITDA in terms of revenues, they are still in a comparitive loss regarding margin vs. the two larger carriers. I'm not suggesting that they will not make moves to improve this rather rocky road they are on currently but it will be uphill and will take time.
As was noted before, Sprint has been announcing rollouts but Verizon is executing them concurrent with Sprint as seen here:
http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/verizon-we-alrea ... »...
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While Sprint overall is gaining in EBITDA in terms of revenues, they are still in a comparitive loss regarding margin vs. the two larger carriers. I'm not suggesting that they will not make moves to improve this rather rocky road they are on currently but it will be uphill and will take time.
As was noted before, Sprint has been announcing rollouts but Verizon is executing them concurrent with Sprint as seen here:
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Wombough clearly smokes alot of crack.
Sprint is doing alot of right things on the DATA side of things but they will not make up 8 million in 2 years its simply not possible, they will be lucky to even break in close to VZW and Cingular in net adds.
Sprint is doing alot of right things on the DATA side of things but they will not make up 8 million in 2 years its simply not possible, they will be lucky to even break in close to VZW and Cingular in net adds.
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If current trends continue, Sprint will have a net loss of customers in less than 2 years. Last quarter they added about 250,000? Compared to VZW's 1.9 MILLION? That's more than just a little different..
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Yeah and its some good crack. Guess we will see in 2 years won't we. But hey keep arguing and say I am the stupidest person in the world and your insight is so much greater that you know anymore were they all will be in 2 years. Its your story tell it like you want to, just like I will tell mine. But I will not say your on crack because you state what you think may happen. Hell maybe the sun will go super nova in a year. Who the hell know?????
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They don't completely flame out from the merger. I know they aren't doing well since the merger, losing money in fact. So good luck, keep on truckin.
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