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Buying from non Verizon Corporate Stores

phone8100

Dec 21, 2006, 5:41 PM
Why is it so much cheaper to buy from non-VZW Corporate stores? Today I saw an advertisement for the KRZR, $79.99 at Circuit City. Verizon charges 199.99. How can CC afford it, and is there something wrong with it? (Is it a refurb?)
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wombough

Dec 21, 2006, 5:44 PM
because they are CC. No if I had to guess which I like to do its because VZW pays CC to sell their phones and they use that to discount it and then attract buyers that want VZW to there stores with the cheaper phones just to get them in their doors!
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cilvzwagent

Dec 21, 2006, 5:59 PM
The same way our (indirect) pricing for a RAZR is $79.99 - $50 Rebate = $29.99, but Walmart can sell them for $28.88 and get the H500 Bluetooth Headset for free. Walmart can afford to sell things for little to no profit because of the amount of things that they sell...and they can order in higher quantity and receive a bigger discount off their initial cost for it. We in the small(er) business world, can't order 10,000 phones and get rid of them in a week's time across our 15-20 locations....if we could, i'd have much better things to do with my time during the day than Phonescoop (no offense to fellow phonescoopers, just making point that if I had that many customers my paperwork would be to the ceiling by this time of the day)
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swoodrow79

Dec 21, 2006, 9:28 PM
Circuit's actually have VZW "stores" inside of them. It's not indirectly priced. The real reason that the phone is priced so low is that most Circuit City VZW kiosks get destroyed every month. For example, there is a Circuit in SE Wisconsin that is lucky to get 50-60 activations out a month, compared to the VZW corporate store two blocks down the road that does 500-600 per month.

The difference is price is just to simply get people into those stores.
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BriggsBU

Dec 26, 2006, 4:04 AM
Don't buy from non-direct channels. Please don't. For the love of god and all that is holy, just don't do it. I work in the Credit Resolution team for VZW (applying credits to accounts for billing errors, etc) and I can not tell you HOW many times I have seen someone get simply absolutely SCREWED for using an indirect agent who did not set up the account right, causing the customer to get billed overages, and no notes on the account so I can't issue any credit to fix it.
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crazyeaglefan236

Dec 26, 2006, 5:21 PM
wha?!?! Who pissed in your cherios this morning? I get tons of retail store issues. Here is what makes me laugh though. What you are saying is that if a customer goes into a retail store and they mess up the account you are happy to fix it, but if they go into an indirect you wouldn't be? Did you check that you are not to differ between channels? Huh?
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crazyeaglefan236

Dec 26, 2006, 5:22 PM
and BTW, circuit city is direct...it is a store in a store. So gets your facts right before you start spouting filth.
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wfine81

Dec 26, 2006, 5:32 PM
Lol, I was waiting for you to comment on him.
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BriggsBU

Dec 26, 2006, 6:07 PM
I get tons of direct store issues as well. The problem is that Verizon Wireless looks at credit issues on accounts in two ways:

1. Verizon Wireless Errors
2. Customer Satisfaction Credits

A VZW Error is any time something happens on your account that is VZW's fault. This includes price plan changes that don't get done right, billing errors, etc. You get these whenever an error occurs, no questions asked.

A Customer Satisfaction Credit basically means VZW considers it to be your own fault and is just giving you a credit to shut you up. You get only one of these per rolling six month period.

According to a memo my department received recently (Credit Escalation Department), any time an Indirect store messes up on your account, tha...
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vzwinagent

Dec 26, 2006, 6:23 PM
Better service? We get so many complaints at our indirect store ABOUT the direct stores. They put features on peoples accounts without telling them. They tell them they are required to have a text package, or that if you put it on one lines you are required to add it to all lines. They also tell customers the 30 days of Vcast free is required and they must take it and the reps refuse to remove it. We have horror stories.
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BriggsBU

Dec 26, 2006, 6:32 PM
Look guy, don't get mad at me. It wasn't my decision to enact these policies. I'm just being the bearer of the message and trying to be a good person by warning people because I don't like seeing people get hosed by big corporations. And I know that Direct locations do have their share of screw ups, some even intentional what with the commission on sales of equipment and features. And I have issued, since I moved to this team, over $60,000 in credits to various accounts due to things like billing errors, direct channel screw ups, indirect channel screw ups, customer satisfaction credits, etc.

I really do try to help the customer when I can (so long as they aren't outright rude to me..then I stop trying to help them and they get nothing). ...
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frankiewawa

Dec 26, 2006, 6:43 PM
Oh no you're raise. I worked at an indirect vzw for over a year. We were located no less than 1 mile away from a corp store and let me tell you... i had ENDLESS complaints about the corp people screwing them over, promising things and never following up on them. Sad thing is when I was there... the VZW corp was our biggest competition, not cingular, not sprint, but our own. really sad when you think about it when you have to battle with the crap that the corp stores pull. It's unbelievable how many times I've had to call customer service for a customer because the corporate store screwed up on someones account or snuck in Vcast without notifying the customer etc. Stick the corp brown nosing up your own ass buddy. good day. 😎
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BriggsBU

Dec 26, 2006, 7:30 PM
Sir, please be civil. I honestly do everything I can to help customers. But I am held by certain restraints that I can not violate. I'm sorry, but I am not going to sacrifice my job and financial well being, and I doubt you would either. If I can do anything to help the customer, I will do it. Just this past month I spent 4 hours of my time reviewing 6 months worth of bills on an account with 5 lines on it because every single one of the secondary lines had no In-Network feature on them, so the customer was charged huge overages. That customer got over $2,000 in credit from me, and I was happy to do it. So please don't not get angry with me over this, it is not my decision. It was a decision made on the corporate level and I am forced to abi...
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crazyeaglefan236

Dec 26, 2006, 7:48 PM
OK. If an indirect sold that customer it would not be the indirect channels fault that a "feature" is missing. When I do a line of service, all these features autopopulate. I cannot add or remove the "in" network calling feature. I go over all the features that are shown on the contract. If you would refuse to do anything for that customer because they bought through an indirect, yet the issue was an EROES issue, not the agent, then you would be showing a difference between channels. This is clearly NOT to happen. Why would you anyway? Why would it matter? First of all, as an indirect we take the risk of loss when signing up that customer. Not VZW. We have already bought the phone from VZW to sell, so VZW has no subsidy in phone, and th...
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BriggsBU

Dec 26, 2006, 7:54 PM
Guys, how many times do I have to say this? I did not make this decision. I just am impacted by it as I work in the Credit Escalation Team. I approve or deny credits submitted by CSRs. I do not get any say in policy, etc. I am just trying to make people aware of this wholly stupid policy because it could hurt a lot of customers who don't know this.
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crazyeaglefan236

Dec 26, 2006, 8:00 PM
If this is indeed true then just wait for antritrust lawsuits. That would be like Toyota picking and choosing which dealerships they will honor warranty repair work by who sold the car. That would be a lawsuit ready to happen. Especially when they tell us that they DO NOT differentiate between channels.
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djatvzw

Dec 26, 2006, 9:15 PM
are you crazy? let me ask u what is your purpose of posting that crap? since you say you wont issue credit for fear of paying your bills and eating or whatever you said.... how about posting internal communications outside of the business????? u must not worry too much about eating or keeping your job. to be honest i hope you get HOSED as you called it by vzw for posting that. you must be one of those bright employees who say .002 cents 🙄
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BriggsBU

Dec 26, 2006, 9:47 PM
My purpose is to advise customers so they don't get blind sided by this. I don't see why you see the need to insult me here. I did this to try and help people so they don't get screwed by VZW. I am just an employee of the company, doing my job. I don't get a say in these policies, but I am held to them. And no, I am not one of those "bright employees who say .002 cents". I'm actually probably the most knowledgeable person in our center regarding anything with VZW. I'm the one that everyone comes to when they need help on a situation, or don't know how something works, etc. Managers, Supervisors, CSRs, Second Tier Support, all come to me when they don't know how something works. I can't walk across the bloody call floor without being begged t...
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djatvzw

Dec 26, 2006, 10:48 PM
since you are just doing your job i am wondering what part of your job description includes posting internal information on phonescoop? if thats a job i want it!!! 🤣 you care about customers but what does that have to do with posting proprietary guidelines here???? absolutely nothing. and no i am not a customer i am an employee like you. and yayyyy whoopee people ask me everything too what does that have to do with this. but i hope they can your a$$ for the post you made. just my opinion. the post was degrading in a way to indirects which i totally disagree with and is not how vzw operates. why dont you post the email address it came from so the indirects can email that person directly and see whats up and if they actually feel that way?...
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BriggsBU

Dec 26, 2006, 10:59 PM
I'm done talking to you. Like I said, I posted this information to help customers, not get into a back and forth fight with you. Good day.
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wfine81

Dec 26, 2006, 11:06 PM
Hey Briggs, I am an indirect, and have pretty much just stayed outta it, because while yes I was ticked when I read it, and I do feel it was kinda rude the way it came out, I realize that YOU did not make the rules. However I think that everyone is ticked and channeling their agression towards you becasue of your general attitude, or at least the way it came accross in your Original post.

Just my 2 cents, or should I say .002 cents 😉
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wfine81

Dec 26, 2006, 11:10 PM
BriggsBU said:

Don't buy from non-direct channels. Please don't. For the love of god and all that is holy, just don't do it. I


P.S.

you have to admit this was pretty rude
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frankiewawa

Dec 26, 2006, 6:36 PM
I am pretty sure that the circuit city stores ARE corporate stores... Because if you go to verizon.com and search for nearest location, you will get the vzw corp stores as well as the circuit city locations. You will not find any wireless zones, walmart etc. at least thats how it was when i sold vzw last year. Why circuit city sells less than corp stores is beyond me. But its like best buy. Best buy cant take payments and stuff like corp stores do, but they always seem to have much better phone pricing deals. unless you of course have a ne2 credit. but as far as new activations best buy dominates all others.
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urnamehere

Dec 26, 2006, 7:26 PM
circuit city kiosks are direct corp stores.
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frankiewawa

Dec 28, 2006, 12:48 PM
yes thats what i thought.
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