Telenav Has Got To Go...the iphone is going to flop...
Okay, see I thought we were living in the 21st century, but I guess I assumed to much by that label. I have to say the one thing Verizon has going for them (because their plans are too expensive for the lack there of that you get when you buy one of their 1980's cell phones) is built in GPS with VZ Navigator. I had it and I used it every so often for directions but the point of interest aspect is amazing. I can't tell you how many times and as many cities that thing helped. Like I said I didn't use it so much as for directional purposes but living in Texas it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure your way from Houston to San Antonio or Houston To Austin, but damn, if you want to find something in the Houston area, like a place to eat...
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The concept that different products are for different customers escapes many people. Years ago the old AWS had location-based services that did not require GPS enabled phones. You could find the normal stuff based on where you were, even if you didn't know where "here" was. And yes, this worked on a standard GSM phone. Too bad that got dropped. I do agree that the current price for the iPhone is beyound what I'd pay, even for an uber-toy like this. Do you remember when the V-60 first came out? Some people did speend $400 for a TDMA phone!
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I just think its a waste not to use something like A-GPS like Verion and sprint phones do, and get away from the BT receiver, because its cruddy, its as simple as that, i don't mind using telenav but like i said i use it for points of interest and having an added thing to carry when BT is sketchy to begin with is ridiculous.
There are people who are going to buy this phone, but the people that know better won't, especially knowing that the phone can be a lot better than it is right now, i mean 10 times better with 3G and the equivalence of A-GPS.
There are people who are going to buy this phone, but the people that know better won't, especially knowing that the phone can be a lot better than it is right now, i mean 10 times better with 3G and the equivalence of A-GPS.
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Check out the BB8800. Edge data speeds but built in gps, in sync with the bb map tool.
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people paid $499.99 for a GSM/GPRS motorola v3 on a 2 year contract whem it launched in '04.
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I just want to know why its so hard to include built in GPS, that's all, the iphone was just a secondary comment, that had a little to do with my original complaint.
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Well, chip size and battery drain come to mind. However, this is such a natural combination that as soon as the GPS becomes a little more "phone" friendly we should see this everywhere. My comments were that there were (and are) several software-based systems that worked well enough for most people.
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Well, the chip size makes it hard for most phones to fit it in unless special considerations are taken for the phone(as in the HP 6925 or BB 8800)
iphone will have GPS.....
The reason verizon and sprint have GPS in all their phones is because their technology requires it in order to SYNC up the network, so if they decide to let the phone user use it for secondary purposes its really not all that hard....
iphone will have GPS.....
The reason verizon and sprint have GPS in all their phones is because their technology requires it in order to SYNC up the network, so if they decide to let the phone user use it for secondary purposes its really not all that hard....
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so the iphone will have BUILT IN GPS, or you will be able to use a BT receiver?
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i'm sorry, i read the description wrong, i figured what the hell is the purpose of maps built in w/o a GPS to use them with.
For the price tag on the phone they really need to redo it, or i guess their trying to get as much money as the can and come out with version 2 so everybody buys 2 phone...lol
For the price tag on the phone they really need to redo it, or i guess their trying to get as much money as the can and come out with version 2 so everybody buys 2 phone...lol
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Yeah, well see that is one of my points, the intial model looks nice but on paper its not worth it...not until they add those features, which the 3G model will be coming out in the end of the year so why by the first. Makes no sense, and don't put in Google maps standard without built in GPS. lol
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sorry but your WRONG... apple iphone will be a hot seller. i do believe the razr was a rather pricey phone when it came out. but look at it now everyone has one.
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Ok, but with the introduction of 3G and GPS, why would anyone who knows anything about Cell Phones, especially ones with PDAs, drop their phone and pay out over 700 Dollars for a phone that isn't going to be 3G when it comes out or have built in GPS??? If this phone had those two things, I would buy AS SOON AS IT CAME OUT, other than that I don't see the benefits of it. Especially since if you use the iphone, you won't be able to use the BT GPS receiver from Cingular with google maps, unless I am doing something totally wrong on my phone, (the BT receiver I bought from Cingular does not work with Windows Live nor Google Maps, probably because it is from Telenav)
but serious phone enthusiasts are not going to be caught up with the hype...
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but serious phone enthusiasts are not going to be caught up with the hype...
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Okay, see I thought we were living in the 21st century, but I guess I assumed to much by that label. I have to say the one thing Verizon has going for them (because their plans are too expensive for the lack there of that you get when you buy one of their 1980's cell phones) is built in GPS with VZ Navigator. I had it and I used it every so often for directions but the point of interest aspect is amazing. I can't tell you how many times and as many cities that thing helped. Like I said I didn't use it so much as for directional purposes but living in Texas it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure your way from Houston to San Antonio or Houston To Austin, but damn, if you want to find something i
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I could also pick up a much more technically superior MP3 player for less than your 30 GB iPod.. but..I don't because I appreciate the interface and the way it syncs with my equipment..And because while I do understand the wonders of FLAC and Ogg..it just doesn't fit what I need or want.. Much like the other 80 millions iPod owners..
Have no worries young Schlitter..the iPhone will sell fairly well..with a small number of holdouts waiting for Jan08 for the 3G model.. when it(the network) will be more widespread.. I live in philadelphia and have a 3G phone..but I still flip back to edge whenever I get further than 15 feet inside most buildings.. And I am not that impressed with the speed.. You are a 3 percenter..as well as most o...
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Have no worries young Schlitter..the iPhone will sell fairly well..with a small number of holdouts waiting for Jan08 for the 3G model.. when it(the network) will be more widespread.. I live in philadelphia and have a 3G phone..but I still flip back to edge whenever I get further than 15 feet inside most buildings.. And I am not that impressed with the speed.. You are a 3 percenter..as well as most o...
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I guess I wasn't clear, and I am sorry but, I know the iphone is going to sell, but anyone who knows anything about cell phones, or champions themself as knowledgeable, will not buy this phone until it has these features...google maps is fine and all but when you have to carry around a bt receiver to actually use the POI feature correctly on your phone, then there is no point...and unless someone can tell me what I am doing wrong, you can't use the BT receiver you buy at Cingular to work with Windows Live or Google Maps. So what is the point.
The iphone will sell, but not to people who know cell phones, they will hold out at least til it is 3G.
The iphone will sell, but not to people who know cell phones, they will hold out at least til it is 3G.
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Why won't the BT GPS receiver you buy at Cingular work with Google Maps or Windows Live?
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Ciny supplies just an ordinary GlobalSat BT-359 portable Bluetooth GPS unit. I have it from VZW days since I used it with Treo and TomTom nav software. Now it works fine with my Blackjack and either Google maps or Live. Moreover you can prurchase CoPilot full blown nav software (no need for TeleNav) which has a version for WM5 Smartphone. There are reports that TomTom will also work though officially it isn' supported on WM5 Smartphone devices. I should try my copy.
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what do i need to do for it to work with windows live or Google on my phone, because so far i haven't been able to get it to work?
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Yeah that is what I figured, I don't know why they have to be like that, is there a way to get around it to use it or is it just set that way and can't reconfigure?
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