Bring on the NEW phones now ! ! !
Okay, for weeks (if not months) now, we have been waiting on the merger to go thru because supposedly after it did Cingular would be releasing a bunch of new phones including the V551 and the RAZR V3...
Sooo, the merger is complete now so bring on the phones!
I am very anxious to look at and evaluate the Moto RAZR V3 to see if it is all hype (like the V710 was) or if it really is the greatest thing since sliced bread like the early adopters who have already bought it and started posting reviews are claiming...
Any Cingular employees have any inside info they can share? 😁
Anyways, bring on the phones!
cheers all,
kega
Sooo, the merger is complete now so bring on the phones!
I am very anxious to look at and evaluate the Moto RAZR V3 to see if it is all hype (like the V710 was) or if it really is the greatest thing since sliced bread like the early adopters who have already bought it and started posting reviews are claiming...
Any Cingular employees have any inside info they can share? 😁
Anyways, bring on the phones!
cheers all,
kega
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WHOA there tex!!! I know you've been waitin on these for a while, and I know you've heard SPECULATIONS stating that new phones would be released at the close of the merger. That may well be true, and I can tell ya that the V3 and v551 are on the horizon. But the facts are that the merger is FAR from closed. The deal has been done, but the networks aren't even open til around the 15th of Nov. They've announced that M2M will cover cust's. of both companies...but look at the fine print..not til the 15th or after. Chances are that you'll not see these phones in stores en mass until the BIG technical issues of combining companies is complete, and rest assured they're workin on that as fast as possible.
I hope I'm wrong on this and the a6...
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If you're desperately wanting a new awesome phone the MPx220 is already available @ Best Buy for Cingular usage...
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speck said:
If you're desperately wanting a new awesome phone the MPx220 is already available @ Best Buy for Cingular usage...
Yeah, I saw that but that phone is getting mixed reviews...
Even if the reviews were all glowing & hunky-dory, the MPx220 does not offer "hands-free voice-dialing thru a bluetooth headset..." Major flaw & deal-buster for me. It makes the bluetooth pretty much useless as far as I am concerned.
I thought the whole point of adding bluetooth to a cell phone was to enable "hands-free operation of the cell phone while driving" in order to make using a cell phone in the car safer??? I thought that was the selling point of bluetooth...?
Thank you for your reply though....
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Buckock said:
uh....thats what bluetooth is. the mpx220 has bluetooth.....
True, the MPx220 does have bluetooth but it does NOT support voice-dialing thru a bluetooth headset... That was part of everybody's complaint about it prior to pre-release.
kega
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lol......damn...........I have the MPX200 and has the voice dial feature, but no bluetotth...lol..wtf Motorola!
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Buckock said:
lol......damn...........I have the MPX200 and has the voice dial feature, but no bluetooth...lol..wtf Motorola!
Yeah, that started with the MPx220...
cheers,
kega
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Kega,
I hate to burst your bubble, I REALLY do, but the bottom line is that no phone or BT headset is gonna allow you to dial a number without ever touching the phone. I have a Jabra BT200 that I'm using with a v60x, and I have voice dialing, I can even do it thru the headset. BUT in order to tell the phone that I'm about to use my voice to dial a number I still have to hit a button on the phone. I haven't run across ANY phone that doesn't require you to touch the phone in some way before you use voice dialing. The point of voice dialing and BT isn't to keep you from touching the phone at all, it's to MINIMIZE the amount of time you touch the phone. The only way this could be accomplished is if the phone were constantly listenin...
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I hate to burst your bubble, I REALLY do, but the bottom line is that no phone or BT headset is gonna allow you to dial a number without ever touching the phone. I have a Jabra BT200 that I'm using with a v60x, and I have voice dialing, I can even do it thru the headset. BUT in order to tell the phone that I'm about to use my voice to dial a number I still have to hit a button on the phone. I haven't run across ANY phone that doesn't require you to touch the phone in some way before you use voice dialing. The point of voice dialing and BT isn't to keep you from touching the phone at all, it's to MINIMIZE the amount of time you touch the phone. The only way this could be accomplished is if the phone were constantly listenin...
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The V600 does not require you to touch the phone to use voice dial using their Bluetooth headset.
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ATTWS requires voice dial in order to fully use hands free. If voice dial isnt provisioned its nbot going to work by just speaking the name
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That is horrible. No wonder they are history. However, not to be argumentative, the voice dialing on the V600 has nothing to do with the network. The phone is working just like you hit the buttons. I thought that was what was being mentioned. Sorry.
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on ATTWS, with voice dial you can dial and end calls without ever touching the phone. Im not sure on every maker of bluetooth headsets, but on a particular Logitech headset, there is a button you press to open a line and to end it.
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I'm just stating my experience. I've never messed with a phone that doesn't require to you touch it to prompt it to listen to voice commands. There may be some newer things out there that automatically start listening when you turn on your headset, but I haven't seen them. I can answer calls w/my headset w/o touching the handset, but not initiate them thru voice dialing, nor have I seen any that do.
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Buckock said:
(snip...) Im not sure on every maker of bluetooth headsets, but on a particular Logitech headset, there is a button you press to open a line and to end it.
That's what I understood.
Pressing a button on the headset to place calls via voice-dialing, and to answer & end calls as well... Is that wrong? That is what everybody seems to talk about I thought...?
kega
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This is a Bluetooth function, not implemented on all Bluetooth phones. I think it's the "remote control" profile from the BT spec. The phone mfg must embed that profile in his BT stack for touch-free voice dialing to be implemented.
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I understand what you are saying, I guess I did not make myself fully clear.
I realize that pushing one button "technically speaking" means that the phone is not "entirely" hands-free, but it is so close as to qualify as hands-free for me... At least I think that is how most people would qualify hands-free operation. IMHO anyways. 😉
Thanks for the info.
cheers all,
kega
I realize that pushing one button "technically speaking" means that the phone is not "entirely" hands-free, but it is so close as to qualify as hands-free for me... At least I think that is how most people would qualify hands-free operation. IMHO anyways. 😉
Thanks for the info.
cheers all,
kega
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no you're right, and it's good that you understand what I'm sayin. That's as close to handsfree as it gets. I'm actually currently demoing a BT headset that doesn't even allow you to answer calls without touching the handset. Now THAT's not handsfree. Basically what you're probably gonna find is that you use one of the outside keys to initiate the voice feature then you can speak. I had to experiment w/my v60 to find that out, the manual mentioned that you could use the side key for a voice memo, but I didn't see anything about using it for voice dialing. Play with some thing for a while sometimes and you'll learn more about it than reading. Good luck w/finding something you like. The phone's you're lookin at ARE coming, it'll just b...
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Thanks!
I am truly hoping the RAZR V3 is my ticket to cell phone heaven!!! lol 😁 It certainly has the looks, now we just have to see if it has the stuff inside it to back-up its good-looks! 😉
cheers all,
kega
I am truly hoping the RAZR V3 is my ticket to cell phone heaven!!! lol 😁 It certainly has the looks, now we just have to see if it has the stuff inside it to back-up its good-looks! 😉
cheers all,
kega
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handsfree to me, whatever its form, has always just meant you don't look at the keypad to dial a number or find a name in the phone book. only way to do that is some sort of voice dial, etc. in any case, just being on a cell phone impairs one's driving, handsfree or not....
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I'm with ya there...I hate driving and talking at the same time....but if someone calls and I HAVE to answer the phone I'd prefer to be able to keep my main focus on the road.
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You can answer a call w/ any bluetooth enabled phone w/o having to look @ the phone... It just depends on the bluetooth headset you have.
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disturbed1 said:
I'm with ya there...I hate driving and talking at the same time....but if someone calls and I HAVE to answer the phone I'd prefer to be able to keep my main focus on the road.
Exactly! That was the gist of my point... To me, that is what bluetooth is about.
In that perspective, to me bluetooth is a complete waste if you can't do "hands-free" voice-dialing thru it using your cell phone.
That was what I was trying to say earlier, albeit maybe not as clearly as I had thought...
Anyways, to get back to the original topic "Bring on the new phones already!" lol
cheers all,
kega
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Uhhhhh ....
I have never setup voice dialing on my SE-616T. However, if I touch the Jabra200 button, the phone issues a special tone and warns me that it's not sure why I'm trying to voice-dial !!!
I think the SE-616 would be quite pleased to dial out without my touching the phone, and with the keyboard locked.
I have never setup voice dialing on my SE-616T. However, if I touch the Jabra200 button, the phone issues a special tone and warns me that it's not sure why I'm trying to voice-dial !!!
I think the SE-616 would be quite pleased to dial out without my touching the phone, and with the keyboard locked.
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On the website concerning info about the merger: newcingular.com The site states that AT&T customers should check back on November 10th about an update on getting Cingular products and services available to them.
More to come around Mid-November. There is talk of six exclusive phones that are supposted to be coming out first, Motorola has two, the RAZR V3 and the v551. Sony Ericsson has two as well, the se710 and the Z500. The other two are not known as of now, according to an article at businessweek.com, check out this link: http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/o ct2004/nf20041026_3765_db016.htm
More to come around Mid-November. There is talk of six exclusive phones that are supposted to be coming out first, Motorola has two, the RAZR V3 and the v551. Sony Ericsson has two as well, the se710 and the Z500. The other two are not known as of now, according to an article at businessweek.com, check out this link: http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/o ct2004/nf20041026_3765_db016.htm
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