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f38urry

Jun 24, 2007, 12:20 PM
An excerpt from a June 23, 2007 NY Times article:

"AT&T’s share of new monthly wireless subscribers has fallen steadily over the last year, notably since it purchased BellSouth and changed its wireless brand to AT&T from Cingular. In the second quarter of last year, 29.5 percent of new cellphone subscribers chose AT&T, but that figure was 25.8 percent in this year’s first quarter, Mr. Hodulik said.

At the end of the first quarter, AT&T had 62.2 million subscribers, slightly more than Verizon’s 61.5 million, said Jonathan Atkin, an analyst at RBC Capital Markets. But Verizon is catching up a little bit each quarter.

AT&T is already doing worse than Verizon in terms of customer turnover, or churn, Mr. Atkin said. AT&T is now losing
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BeachSlapped

Jun 24, 2007, 1:46 PM
Blah blah blah... "I think this.. I think that..." All these people need to STFU and wait until the phone is actually out.
Verizons burden is that they've never had a phone that would make people talk about it the way we've talked about the iPhone... When was it that they had to hire almost 2,000 people in order to help out with sales? When was it that they had customers lining up outside their stores in order to buy their equipment? How about NEVER?
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reklisammy

Jun 25, 2007, 11:08 AM
welllll actually verizon is constantly hiring new employees--ful time employees because they are genrerating soooo much business. If you look at the churn rates alone this would tell you. Also these people talking about it are well seasoned and have a good eye, thats what they get paid for. i'm sure the iphone will do and be great, but it by no means will mean the end of any other cell phone carrier, unles it goes bad for cingular i mean at&t i mean cingular i mean at&t!!!
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thickjake

Jun 25, 2007, 4:55 PM
Bring back Airtouch, I mean PrimeCo, I mean GTE, or ahh Bell Atlantic, I mean NYNEX...
(google it, cause you probably have know idea what Im talking about)
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Icyhot

Jun 25, 2007, 6:09 PM
I believe those were the carriers that were merged to form Verizon, but I could be wrong. I know GTE and Bell Atlantic were for sure. Having said that, I dont think the iPhone will do all that well, simply because of the price and because AT&T is not subsidizing it, yet if you cancel your contract you will still be charged ETF and that isn't right considering you are paying full price for the phone. I think its a very nice phone, but this whole pricing thing is going to steer many people away.
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THE BOX

Jun 25, 2007, 7:29 PM
you dont have to sign a contract to get the phone unless you are a new customer ! so why would we charge you ? thats what a contract is for for subsidized equip no equip and u are already a customer free to go
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Icyhot

Jun 25, 2007, 7:32 PM
Ah, I thought you had to be eligible for an upgrade. Thanks for the info. Still not getting it. I think my N95 will be the better of the 2 phones.
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Pictor

Jun 24, 2007, 1:50 PM
f38urry said:
An excerpt from a June 23, 2007 NY Times article:

"He said he was not concerned that consumers would balk at the price of the iPhone, which costs $499 or $599, depending on how much memory it has. The phones require a two-year service contract and, unlike most other phones AT&T offers, it will not be subsidized by the company.



AT&T's hubris may be its own downfall. Perhaps also the downfall of the iPhone. I just came back from a COR store to ask about new price plans and the individual insisted that the existing price plans would be it for the iPhone, there would be no new price plans and the phone was already subsidized. We all know the phone isn't subsidized but the lack of in...
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texaswireless

Jun 24, 2007, 9:02 PM
The lack of imformation is intentional (although the rep should have said nothing instead of making up information).

This is not isolated to AT&T (misinformation about a new product). Browse any other carrier forum and you will see the same complaints.
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koziekat

Jun 25, 2007, 6:12 PM
i think yes the iphone is making a buzz now a days, but i feel thats it nice phone but too much, if people are dumb enough yes it will be like another razr and people will buy it no matter what it cost.
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chainsaw

Jun 25, 2007, 6:26 PM
When the razr came out we didn't sell a lot of them till they dropped to 199-250 dollar range. However I think the buzz for the iphone is greater and price won't be an issue for those who really want it.
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koziekat

Jun 25, 2007, 6:44 PM
well even when the razr 1st came out we were replacing it left and right, and it got worse as the price kept dropping. i think people will buy the iphone but strongly see people canceling and paying their etf just to go back and get the iphone. =^.^=
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schlittertex

Jun 26, 2007, 9:04 AM
I can't tell you how many times I heard crap come out of reps mouth when I was at Verizon. You are right it isn't isolated, in any industry.
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texaswireless

Jun 26, 2007, 10:26 AM
It is a disease.

Footicus mouthicus.
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