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can anyone help me?

gorobbygordon

Jul 6, 2007, 4:32 PM
I have an account that I have had for several years. I have 1 line out of contract and 1 line in contract, which expires in January. I have complained about service getting worse at my house for the last year. I have been told by the district rep that was in the store when I went in for my weekly rant, that there has been a "redirectioning" of the tower and that I would no longer have service. My question is is there any way to get out of my contract since it is useless for what I need?
Thanks for any help
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psuadam2007

Jul 6, 2007, 4:42 PM
If you start consistently making "off-network calls"...they'll cut you off (I think it's if you have more than 50% of your calls off network)
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koziekat

Jul 6, 2007, 4:46 PM
it is 50%, the only other way is too call ccc alot and keep talking to sup's until u piss them off.
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psuadam2007

Jul 6, 2007, 5:17 PM
That's sprint! 😁
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chocolateman85006

Jul 7, 2007, 2:30 PM
🤣
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chocolateman85006

Jul 7, 2007, 2:30 PM
You're kidding, right?
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robtheman

Jul 14, 2007, 3:41 PM
No. AT&T cuts service off from people in my area all the time. With the university being up here, I'd gander at 30-40 people every fall semester and 10 or so every spring semester. Well...that's all that I deal with. I'm only one of 6 stores in town so I'm sure the number is much higher than that.
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chocolateman85006

Jul 14, 2007, 3:50 PM
Every company has at least one retarded rule....
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robtheman

Jul 14, 2007, 3:53 PM
I don't think it's retarded. Let's say you're in an area where all of the towers are from roaming agreements (which would be east of where I live for AT&T). If you have customers in that area, you're paying the other companies to use those towers for quite a bit of data. They're probably not making enough money on those customers to justify keeping them as customers and giving them the boot.
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Guy Montag

Jul 6, 2007, 5:03 PM
You're kinda stuck. Calling CC and complaining about the change in coverage may work but I honestly doubt it. Either way, that's what I would try. Call CC and have the call escalated till you get someone who can help you.
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koziekat

Jul 6, 2007, 5:04 PM
it will work depending on who u get. if all else fails they will up u to their sups or send u to the save team.
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gorobbygordon

Jul 7, 2007, 10:21 AM
Thanks for the advice. I called in a few times until they got me on with a supervisor. He said "it is what it is and since you are in contract you are stuck". I am really p*ssed off right now and will make that known by consistently going to the store here and stating in a not so quiet way how awful and nonexistent the coverage has become. I will let the store employees know the name of the super I spoke with in hopoes that they will call someone and complain the HE is the one that caused me to do this. I also hope that I can convince at least one person in that store to not to get a phone through at&t, as that will make me feel better that someone won't get screwed like I am. I will do this daily on my way to work until January. If this is ...
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cingularslave

Jul 7, 2007, 1:56 PM
we are told not to listen. i will say sorry on here but in my store just shut up and get out
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bheiman

Jul 7, 2007, 2:19 PM
To bad you cant get me, i would waive the ETF lol

but i actually believe that the customer rules, lol

i just always put myself in the customers shoes
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koziekat

Jul 7, 2007, 2:32 PM
i cant do that, too many write ups or that. 😡
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bheiman

Jul 7, 2007, 2:46 PM
really, are you outsourced or a direct employee

no one has ever gotten in trouble to crediting unless they just dont leave notes...

the only thing we get in trouble for is price overiding the price of a phone
otherwise they are lenient as can be as long at its notated.
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koziekat

Jul 7, 2007, 2:50 PM
i am in good old colorado, no were just not suppose to give credits unless its for a really good reason.
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bheiman

Jul 7, 2007, 2:57 PM
haha, did you say your work for xmb?

yea pretty much as long as we notate anything 250$ or less isnt a big deal

after that is when everything gets anal
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gorobbygordon

Jul 14, 2007, 10:55 AM
so i took the advice to call in to find out if there was anything that could be done because the service stopped being available. i was told that i signed my contract before the etf changed to a flat $175, and that my etf was $90. I thought that was good enough and said i would call back as soon as i called my wife to tell her that her phone was going to be shut off. i call in go thru the overly long winded stuff about cancelling, transfer of service etc, the rep says your phones are now off and you will get a bill for $175! so now i am ready to go postal, but try to remain as nice as possible and question the rep. he informed me that "half of the reps here have no clue whats going on so the computer would have made it 175 anyways". i questi...
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chocolateman85006

Jul 14, 2007, 3:36 PM
Cuss them out!!!!
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robtheman

Jul 14, 2007, 3:39 PM
Get an iPhone!
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nuckingfuts

Jul 14, 2007, 4:19 PM
🤣
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gorobbygordon

Jul 14, 2007, 4:52 PM
i have begun my crusade. since they decided to screw me and charge the $175, the poor employees of the company owned store here will be graced with my not so happy presence before and after work on a daily basis until the date in which my contract would have expired. during each visit i will make it my goal to get 1 person to leave each time. so far i have been successful, by explaining here it doesn't work, the amount of dropped calls, and how they blatently lie to you to get off the phone with you. if i can get 2 people per day to walk out without service until jan 18th i will have gotten 324 people to not sign or not resign for service. the way i figure it the 324 i stop will be worth alot more than the $175 of mine, especially when i was...
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robtheman

Jul 14, 2007, 4:56 PM
Wow, you have too much free time.
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AshDizzle

Jul 14, 2007, 5:11 PM
That sounds like a really good plan. I'll have you know it is completely within our power to deny you entry into the company owned stores, ban you from them, and call the police if you continue to come in or hang around outside hassling customers.

You are pathetic.
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rytr23

Jul 14, 2007, 5:56 PM
He is perfectly within his rights to tell everyone and anyone who will listen about how ATT really did F him over. He really should have gotten everything documented and gone to the BBB in his state and contacted the FTC to seek other recourse.
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Copper Emeritus

Jul 14, 2007, 9:52 PM
The BBB in most states is worthless. Standing on a public sidewalk talking to people about anything you want to is the way to go. Immediate results and immediate satisfaction!
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AshDizzle

Jul 15, 2007, 11:54 AM
And immediate looking like an idiot standing on a sidewalk talking about a cell phone company.
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bwag717

Jul 14, 2007, 9:28 PM
this is insane. i have not wanted to respond any of these threads but this takes the cake. you signed an agreement, you honor the agreement. if you don't you pay a penalty. i had to do the same thing with Verizon because the service was horrible. they didn't wave anything because i signed a contract. if your service goes bad for whatever reason you should just leave and go to the carrier who can provide you with the best service. the 175 might be less that what you would have paid for your plan anyway. you knew what you signed when you signed up. standing outside of the store and bitching about service will do nothing but make you into a jerk to the police and the customers. cussing to the cs's and sups will get you nowhere. you a...
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just_asking

Jul 15, 2007, 9:48 AM
I wish people would read. He stated his service was fine at his house and he was happy until ATT moved the signal. Now this happened after his 30 day return policy. I am not saying he is right or wrong on the way he is going about it, but don't bash him because ATT changed his service. He based his purchase decision on the ability of his phone working at his house.

How would anyone feel after signing a 2-year contract on a service, then they take away the service and tell you that you still have to pay. You wouldn't like it either.

ON other side of coin, after reading the original post, the customer probably went off on the CS reps. and the reps instead of helping him told him he was stuck. Not saying I would do the same, but I ...
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gorobbygordon

Jul 16, 2007, 9:11 AM
actually i have not said anything bad about the in store reps. they have been perfectly fine to me in the past. the people that have lied to me were on the phone. i did sign an agreement for service, which i had for over 7 years, until they "redirectioned" a tower, now i have NO SERVICE and feel that in this case no service because of something the company did should equal the end of my contract for the service that no longer exists. Had this service not existed within my 30 day return period i would have returned the equipment, thanked the rep for the help i received and tried something else.
What really blows my mind is someone such as ashdizzle that will defend to the death, a company that ob viously doesnt care about individuals, and i...
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sangyup81

Jul 16, 2007, 9:37 AM
The question is, did you cuss out the CS and retention reps? Did you make them feel uncomfortable? Because to get your ETF waived takes a little longer and if you were making them uncomfortable, they would rather be rid of you.

I'm surprised you couldn't get this ETF waived the first try. Either you didn't communicate your issue in a way they could understand or you just pissed them off enough that they didn't want to take that extra step and waive the ETF.
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gorobbygordon

Jul 16, 2007, 9:59 AM
no, i do not cuss people out for things like this. i am in cs also and dont like it done to me. i even said thank you before i hung up after being told that they would not waive it or even honor the $90 etf that i was quoted the first time. i am not the bad guy in this, and i never even faulted the redirectioning to cover local factories better. i do however think that there should be some provision for etf charges that are due to changes made by the company. there is 5 pages of notes from store reps, phone reps, the district rep that actually took the time to drive to my house and verify that there was no service,and his notes from a tech that explained the redirectioning to him.
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sangyup81

Jul 16, 2007, 11:02 AM
ah alright
i really hope you get that ETF waived =T
it's not right that they are holding you like this and it's only 6 more months so I don't see what the big deal is for at&t's side
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bocephus22

Jul 14, 2007, 10:49 PM
I feel sorry for you buddy, it is a shame that you have to be victimized by a worthless, uncaring company that only cares about the next person they can royally f@&* over. If I were you i would do the same dang thing and eventually i would file a lass-action lawsuit against them for failure to provide service like the contract says it is supposed to. Thank God I am not a sucker that uses any of the crappy services the evil empire provides.

DEATH TO THE EVIL EMPIRE AKA at&t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😈 😈 😈 😈 😈
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Webb

Jul 15, 2007, 1:42 PM
Actually, the contract kind of says the opposite. There's a clause in it which specifically does not guarantee any kind of universality of service.

There's also a clause which states that the user waives the right to bring any lawsuits against the provider for service issues, and that they agree that any contract disputes will be settled by binding arbitration rather than in a regular court.

This seems all seems to be boiler-plate. I've seen similiar clauses in the contracts of most wireless providers.
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just_asking

Jul 15, 2007, 2:37 PM
can we say cover our ASS. lol 🤣
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Webb

Jul 15, 2007, 1:33 PM
Sometimes ETF's are waived (at least in my market - not sure if the policy has gone coast to coast) for calling issues. It depends upon the circumstances. There tend to be a few hoops to jump through. We need to be able to verify that it's a network issue. We need to see if it's something that can be easily remedied. There also needed to be a certain degree of severity, which is a subjective thing.

Tricky thing is, this is all a relatively recent policy development, and I find that even in my center there are reps who manage not to know about it. And in the length of my... career doing customer support for AWS/Cingular/New AT&T, it's usually been my observation that supervisors know even less about these things.

Or maybe they pulled t...
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