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Motorola E398 on Cingular

fhirzall

Nov 18, 2004, 1:04 AM
Hi, i want a motorola E398, but it doesn't support 850mhz, but i have a nation plan, and i heard that places with no cingular coverage would just allow me to roam on T-mobile, and there are no charges for roaming, can someone knowledgable about this please advise me, a cingular person at the mall said i'd have VERY POOR COVERAGE without 850 frequency, and he seemed kinda lost, Thanks.
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JJMcClain

Nov 18, 2004, 3:09 AM
-if you are in an area where Cingular offers 850 instead of 1900, you will NOT roam off of T Mobile... it will simply not have service. The new 64k sim may fix that problem, but I doubt it since it sees a Cingular network, but treats it like no service...
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JJMcClain

Nov 18, 2004, 3:10 AM
JJMcClain said:
-if you are in an area where Cingular offers 850 instead of 1900, you will NOT roam off of T Mobile... it will simply not have service. The new 64k sim may fix that problem, but I doubt it since it sees a Cingular network, but treats it like no service...


I could be wrong, but from what I've experienced, I think I'm right.
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temp

Nov 18, 2004, 8:16 AM
JJMcClain said:
JJMcClain said:
-if you are in an area where Cingular offers 850 instead of 1900, you will NOT roam off of T Mobile... it will simply not have service. The new 64k sim may fix that problem, but I doubt it since it sees a Cingular network, but treats it like no service...


I could be wrong, but from what I've experienced, I think I'm right.



what if he forced the phone to roam on tmobile all the time?
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JJMcClain

Nov 18, 2004, 9:29 AM
Network Selection is disabled by Cingular.
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temp

Nov 18, 2004, 9:30 AM
JJMcClain said:
Network Selection is disabled by Cingular.



true but thats ONLY on cingular branded and cingular firmware loaded phones, his is not
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fhirzall

Nov 18, 2004, 8:23 AM
There was this website i checked for my area, and it gave me 1900 twice for cingular and 850 once, i live in Lafayette, Indiana. I just need someone that has had a triband phone that doesn't suppport 850 to tell me how reception is....
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temp

Nov 18, 2004, 8:41 AM
fhirzall said:
There was this website i checked for my area, and it gave me 1900 twice for cingular and 850 once, i live in Lafayette, Indiana. I just need someone that has had a triband phone that doesn't suppport 850 to tell me how reception is....



in all honesty man its not going to be good because they are focusing heavily on their 850 band more then their 1900 band, i had AWS when they first started GSM and i had a T68i in cali and the reception was HORRIBLE...then i ported my number to tmobile, and then almost a year later i started another acct with AWS....now i get similar reception in my area with both services, but i dont live in indiana 😕
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fhirzall

Nov 18, 2004, 8:52 AM
I should have got t-mobile, more flexible with phones because they only support 1900, i never thought about this before gettin my contract though 😡...anyone else have the same experience?
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temp

Nov 18, 2004, 8:56 AM
fhirzall said:
I should have got t-mobile, more flexible with phones because they only support 1900, i never thought about this before gettin my contract though 😡...anyone else have the same experience?



how long ago did you get this phone and sign up with cingular?
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fhirzall

Nov 18, 2004, 8:58 AM
About 3 months, 2 year contract, hahaha...
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temp

Nov 18, 2004, 9:03 AM
fhirzall said:
About 3 months, 2 year contract, hahaha...




lol did you activate service with the e398?
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fhirzall

Nov 18, 2004, 10:08 AM
No i have a motorola v400 now, and i....hate....this....phone, so yeah im still thinkin of gettin the e398 hopefully if someone used regular non-850mhz triband on cingular.
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temp

Nov 18, 2004, 10:25 AM
fhirzall said:
No i have a motorola v400 now, and i....hate....this....phone, so yeah im still thinkin of gettin the e398 hopefully if someone used regular non-850mhz triband on cingular.



i would say try out tmobile on their buyers remorse period to see how good their coverage is in your area, if its better then cingular in your area then i would say when your contract is up switch and buy the motorola from a vendor
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fhirzall

Nov 18, 2004, 10:33 AM
ahh thats in 21 months!! seems so long...and t-mobile is fine in my area, so is cingular, verizon sucks so bad here, the verizon people are always lined up outside the dorms tryin to get a signal, but what i think is that if i get like 1 bar, i'd be on roaming on t-mobile, and no roaming charges, but i want to be absolutely positive this phone will work before buying it.
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jinx7676

Nov 18, 2004, 10:49 AM
fhirzall said:
...and t-mobile is fine in my area, so is cingular, verizon sucks so bad here, the verizon people are always lined up outside the dorms tryin to get a signal.


hahahahaha...can you hear me now? 😈
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temp

Nov 18, 2004, 11:07 AM
if t mobile works fine there then get the phone and go with tmobile :-D
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fhirzall

Nov 18, 2004, 11:12 AM
My contract with cingular doesn't end until august 2006, can't really switch carriers.
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temp

Nov 18, 2004, 11:17 AM
well at this point i would say you are stuck between a rock and a hard place, if you really want that phone you wont get good coverage w/ cingular
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fhirzall

Nov 18, 2004, 11:21 AM
Yeah i guess your right, i'll think about buyin it or just buy it and try it out then sell it on ebay â˜šī¸
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temp

Nov 18, 2004, 11:27 AM
or you could buy it and send it to me 😁
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fhirzall

Nov 18, 2004, 11:29 AM
haha sure, i think im gona wait for 2 years then just go t-mobile đŸ‘ŋ then get any cellphone i want, they'll probably have phones that fly by then haha
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temp

Nov 18, 2004, 1:28 PM
fhirzall said:
haha sure, i think im gona wait for 2 years then just go t-mobile đŸ‘ŋ then get any cellphone i want, they'll probably have phones that fly by then haha



$$ by then i will be in japan with a shiny new toy 😁
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Ravenwyrm

Nov 18, 2004, 12:48 PM
1900 only is why T-Mobiles coverage map is so limited. AT&T Wireless (and I assume Cingular) were even worse when they were 1900 only. The recent buildout for AT&T Wireless (and I assume Cingular) has all been 850Mhz, and will most likely continue to be so. I have no idea why anyone would want to use a 1900 only phone in the Allover Network (tm)
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temp

Nov 18, 2004, 1:36 PM
Ravenwyrm said:
1900 only is why T-Mobiles coverage map is so limited. AT&T Wireless (and I assume Cingular) were even worse when they were 1900 only. The recent buildout for AT&T Wireless (and I assume Cingular) has all been 850Mhz, and will most likely continue to be so. I have no idea why anyone would want to use a 1900 only phone in the Allover Network (tm)



this is true, yet the reason that tmobile selected NOT to use 850mhz and 1900mhz paired together is that the handoff between 1900mhz to 850mhz creates WAY too many dropped calls
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fhirzall

Nov 18, 2004, 2:01 PM
Ya i noticed dropped calls, i figured it just happens when i move alot with my phone, but the reason i want to do this is the variety of phones available that support 1900 mhz, not many quad band phones out there, and during summers and christmas vacations, i travel overseas in which they use 900 mhz, so my best bet is to just keep this thanks guyz.
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temp

Nov 18, 2004, 2:16 PM
fhirzall said:
Ya i noticed dropped calls, i figured it just happens when i move alot with my phone, but the reason i want to do this is the variety of phones available that support 1900 mhz, not many quad band phones out there, and during summers and christmas vacations, i travel overseas in which they use 900 mhz, so my best bet is to just keep this thanks guyz.



yeah unfortunately the only quad band phones cingular has is motocrap
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AtTheMet

Nov 19, 2004, 1:18 PM
temp said:
fhirzall said:
Ya i noticed dropped calls, i figured it just happens when i move alot with my phone, but the reason i want to do this is the variety of phones available that support 1900 mhz, not many quad band phones out there, and during summers and christmas vacations, i travel overseas in which they use 900 mhz, so my best bet is to just keep this thanks guyz.



yeah unfortunately the only quad band phones cingular has is motocrap


Blackberry and the Treo's are quad band.
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temp

Nov 19, 2004, 1:21 PM
AtTheMet said:
temp said:
fhirzall said:
Ya i noticed dropped calls, i figured it just happens when i move alot with my phone, but the reason i want to do this is the variety of phones available that support 1900 mhz, not many quad band phones out there, and during summers and christmas vacations, i travel overseas in which they use 900 mhz, so my best bet is to just keep this thanks guyz.



yeah unfortunately the only quad band phones cingular has is motocrap


Blackberry and the Treo's are quad band.



PHONES...not ultra large devices 😛
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AtTheMet

Nov 19, 2004, 1:14 PM
TMobile also does not have spectrum in the 800mhz frequencies. They were always GSM 1900 Cingular and AT&T had the spectrum from their legacy networks (TDMA and Anal-og LOL) 😁
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temp

Nov 19, 2004, 1:21 PM
AtTheMet said:
TMobile also does not have spectrum in the 800mhz frequencies. They were always GSM 1900 Cingular and AT&T had the spectrum from their legacy networks (TDMA and Anal-og LOL) 😁



i know this....whats the point?
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AtTheMet

Dec 2, 2004, 5:54 PM
temp said:
AtTheMet said:
TMobile also does not have spectrum in the 800mhz frequencies. They were always GSM 1900 Cingular and AT&T had the spectrum from their legacy networks (TDMA and Anal-og LOL) 😁



i know this....whats the point?


Smart mouth! Read the original post to which I was replying before you speak! People really have "foot in mouth" disease bad in these last days!!!
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jinx7676

Nov 18, 2004, 9:00 AM
fhirzall said:
I should have got t-mobile, more flexible with phones because they only support 1900, i never thought about this before gettin my contract though 😡...anyone else have the same experience?


hahaha đŸ¤Ŗ đŸ¤Ŗ
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