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Does migration require contract?

jagster

Nov 23, 2004, 2:49 AM
If you migrate your AT&T account to Cingular and already have a compatible phone, do they require a contract? It doesn't really make sense that they would unless you need a new phone that they are subsidizing.
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legacyblue2

Nov 23, 2004, 3:15 AM
you have to sign a new contract because technically the new rate plan has new promotions such as the mobile to monile and the rollover. if you take a rate plan without any of this you won't have to resign. but if you were going to do that there would be no point in migrating.
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jagster

Nov 23, 2004, 3:27 AM
How would I differentiate between a promo rate plan and a regular one?

Are nights/weekends considered promo too?

Is a regular (non-promo) rate plan just inclusive of the anytime minutes. So for example, the #39.99 450 Anytime minute plan would not give you N&W? Also it seems all the plans include rollover except the cheapest one.
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legacyblue2

Nov 23, 2004, 3:31 AM
With Cingular the promotions come already tied to the plan unless you want one without and then you'd be surprised. Pretty much all a basic rate plan includes are the minutes and sometimes some of those are promos as well. night and weekends is definetly a promo as is the free long distance on non nation plans.
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CainMarko

Nov 23, 2004, 3:02 PM
Actually, NW minutes are included on all the plans EXCEPT the 1000 min promo(that's a promo plan all by itself). What IS a promotion is the M2M feature included in Nation plans. And rollover is only included on nation plans now.

for example:
Nation plan 450 rollover and 5k nw minutes = non promo.
Same plan with unlim m2m=promo. get it?
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AGENT DEBIT

Nov 23, 2004, 3:21 PM
Cainmarko, you only get rollover with a contract

same as you only get n/w with a contract, the point is AND LISTEN VERY CLOSELY!!!

A new customer can't activate a service on a cingular monthly service plan without a contract
A legacy(Forer ATT) customer can go onto a cingular current plan without a contract but they don't get those promotions.Its the same thing if a customer was a TDMA customer who migrated to GSM, if they chose not to renew their contract then they get no promotions EITHER

The CUSTOMER chose to change their terms and conditions by migrstion to a different type of service and if he/she does want to also change the terms of their original agreement then they lose those protions since those promotions were contract...
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scapegoat

Nov 23, 2004, 4:36 PM
AGENT DEBIT said:
Cainmarko, you only get rollover with a contract

same as you only get n/w with a contract, the point is AND LISTEN VERY CLOSELY!!!

A new customer can't activate a service on a cingular monthly service plan without a contract
A legacy(Forer ATT) customer can go onto a cingular current plan without a contract but they don't get those promotions.Its the same thing if a customer was a TDMA customer who migrated to GSM, if they chose not to renew their contract then they get no promotions EITHER

The CUSTOMER chose to change their terms and conditions by migrstion to a different type of service and if he/she does want to also change the terms of their original agreement then they lose those protion
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AGENT DEBIT

Nov 23, 2004, 3:30 AM
Ok , there is some confusion about this.Let me clear this option up.

If you migrate to cingular one of these things will happen:

1)If you are under contract with legacy ATT plans and migrate with no plan promotions the or any phone discounts the contract end date from your legacy plan comes across with you.

2)If you have no contract under your legacy plan and migrate to cingular and take no phone discounts or any promtions you can do that with no contract

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3) If you leave your legacy plan and take a new cingular plan and take promotions, additional peak minutes, nights and weekend minutes for free or any discount on any phone or cobinations of those you take a new contract- minimum of 12 months or 24 month signed contrac...
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jagster

Nov 23, 2004, 3:38 AM
Since I doubt anyone would take a plan without the 'promo' items, it wouldn't make any sense to not take a free/discounted phone since you are going to get into a contract anyway.. even if you don't want/need the phone. Something for eBay.

It's really stupid that they make you commit if you don't need a new phone since I thought the whole reason for a contract was to insure that the cost of the phone discount would be recouped.
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legacyblue2

Nov 23, 2004, 3:41 AM
thats true but you probably will need a new phone as well. the only way you wont is if you have a cingular phone already or one that is unlocked. the "new" cingular uses a 64k SIM versus the 32K one that at&t was using
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jagster

Nov 23, 2004, 3:48 AM
I have a couple old Cingular phones which I really like. One is a Ericsson T28 World and the other is a Nokia 8260. The Nokia is one of my all time favorites.
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AGENT DEBIT

Nov 23, 2004, 4:36 AM
Those phnoes are TDMA digital phones, cingular months ago stopped seling Digital service as new services so thats shoots that idea!! 😈
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jagster

Nov 23, 2004, 1:35 PM
even the t28? phonescoop lists it as GSM 900 / GSM 1900.
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AGENT DEBIT

Nov 23, 2004, 1:59 PM
t28is gsm, 8260 is tdma,but you'd only be able to activ. the t28 but unless youwant no promotions like addit peak minutes or nights and weekends you' still have to sign a new contract 😈 😈
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AGENT DEBIT

Nov 23, 2004, 4:35 AM
The contract can be for a discount for a phone but think of it this way a plan if you go over it is say 45 cents e minute, no with a plan you get 200 addtional miuntes so- $0.45 X 200=$90.00

So why should you get $90.00 of minutes without a contract, if you want that minutes without a contract you can go up to a plan that gives that minutes included like the $74.99 plan or with a contract for as little as 39.99, the choice is yours, you may not those choices, but they are still choices.
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cingulargal101

Nov 23, 2004, 6:04 PM
Wellllll it's a totally different story in my market. I think my market (OKC) is the only market the FCC DID NOT approve the merger. Cingular already holds the majority of the market share here, so of course, if they allowed the merger, Cingular then would violate monopoly laws and anti-trust laws.

If an AT&T customer wants to come to Cingular, they are activated just like a porting customer. And, if they are still in contract with AT&T, they are still subject to any term fees associated with their agreement. There are NO exceptions being made.

AT&T is currently up for sale by bids. It's projected that Verizon will buy out AT&T making it the first time Verizon is in OK. But, customers will be in for another shock if Verizon t...
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