Confused?
The new data commercials. I read on my way from atlanta back home in SC a billboard. It said Use it more places like foljopia! I am not kidding that was the name! Why does att focus so much on international when maybe 2% of the 67 million they have may use it overseas! Should they not focus on getting it all in the US?
Just wondering what att subscribers think. I am looking from the outside of it!
Just wondering what att subscribers think. I am looking from the outside of it!
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ME too, I think their whole new sanfrankota advertising idea is dumb. But, hey, its not my journey to work for marketing. I'm excited for my company to start advertising locally.
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i agree. they need to focus on getting blanket coverage in their licensed service area first. they need to quit investing and trying to acquire international customers and better service their own customers at home first.
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Just my 2 cents...
I do travel internationally and am very happy it works overseas with no problems. Got to love AT&T and GSM...much better than that CDMA sh%* that only works in North America...
I do travel internationally and am very happy it works overseas with no problems. Got to love AT&T and GSM...much better than that CDMA sh%* that only works in North America...
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well just by reading your post I see your not to well informed. CDMA is in over 140 countries and adding more every day! So I have no clue what you are talking about!
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wombough said:
well just by reading your post I see your not to well informed. CDMA is in over 140 countries and adding more every day! So I have no clue what you are talking about!
Yeah, but not Sanfrakotonia!
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wombough said:
well just by reading your post I see your not to well informed. CDMA is in over 140 countries and adding more every day! So I have no clue what you are talking about!
wombough - can you provide a list of the 140 CDMA countries? I would hope that if I have a verizon cdma phone it would be compatiple for those 140 CDMA roaming countries, right? Yeah, I don't think verizons cdma international roaming agreements can come close to AT&T's GSM roaming. Thanks. 😲
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no your right it doesn't but sprint does offer a quad band CDMA/GSM phone as does verizon that will work in more places then ATT's. Since if you visit say Hong kong Thailand just to name a few that only use CDMA!
ANd if you want I can find the list again as I posted it a while back!
ANd if you want I can find the list again as I posted it a while back!
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no I don't. The only country using WCDMA that I am aware of for voice is Japan! CDMA is used were I stated! And all you need is your sprint phone or verizon!
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wombough said:
no your right it doesn't but sprint does offer a quad band CDMA/GSM phone as does verizon that will work in more places then ATT's. Since if you visit say Hong kong Thailand just to name a few that only use CDMA!
ANd if you want I can find the list again as I posted it a while back!
You have no idea what you are talking about. No, sprint/verizon does not have more roaming than AT&T using their cdma/gsm phones BECAUSE they do not have the gsm roaming agreements that AT&T does. How about naming those 140 countries that use cdma for verizon roaming? Yes, we are waiting. You named off a few that might have cdma technology, thats about it. I believe you need to do some research.
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I love people that read half of what someone writes. I said 140 countries use CDMA however not all use the same freq. And no you can't use them with your verizon phone. However sprint verizon do have just as many GSM roaming agreements that att and tmobile have.
As for a list here you go smartass!
http://www.cdg.org/worldwide/index.asp?h_area=0#list »
As for a list here you go smartass!
http://www.cdg.org/worldwide/index.asp?h_area=0#list »
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Here's an actual list of countries Verizon has roaming agreements with, not exactly 140...
http://mobileoptions.vzw.com/internationalsvcs/cdmar ... »
http://mobileoptions.vzw.com/internationalsvcs/cdmar ... »
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Thanks wombough. 25 countries cdma roaming coverage. wow. And of course if you get a GSM handset the roaming increases. Dude you really need to go back to the Verizon forum.
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you people need to read I said 140 using cdma. NOT that you are able to roam. Thank you!
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So you were trying to trick people here into thinking a VZW phone would work in 140 countries when the topic was on the number of places a phone sold by at&t would work. Good job attempting to mislead us all. 👿
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GSM/CDMA phone it will work in that many here is the URL for sprint international roaming. Need help counting?
http://www1.sprintpcs.com/explore/coverage/internati ... »
I have no clue about verizon never looked but I would think they are the same. Maybe not.
http://www1.sprintpcs.com/explore/coverage/internati ... »
I have no clue about verizon never looked but I would think they are the same. Maybe not.
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I helped you its 193 if you subtract Guam and Puerto Rico as they are part of the US.
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VZW's big problem with CDMA roaming agreements outside of the US is the cost. Something about the other carriers not wanting to pay the VZW rates for their phones roaming in the US 😛 Hence why the low coverage outside the US. VZW is working on roaming agreements to get more countries and just added two more recently.
The sad thing is by the time VZW gets a nice international roaming footprint we will be working on 4G stuff and the CDMA roaming wont mean so much.
The sad thing is by the time VZW gets a nice international roaming footprint we will be working on 4G stuff and the CDMA roaming wont mean so much.
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wombough said:
no your right it doesn't but sprint does offer a quad band CDMA/GSM phone as does verizon that will work in more places then ATT's. Since if you visit say Hong kong Thailand just to name a few that only use CDMA!
ANd if you want I can find the list again as I posted it a while back!
In a no doubt vain attempt to make a dent in your ignorance, Thailand and Hong Kong both have active GSM networks:
http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/index.shtml »
South Korea is the only significant country where a US CDMA phone will work and a GSM phone will not. There is no place the dual mode CDMA/GSM phones will work, beside South Korea, where a quad band GSM phone will not.
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sorry I made a mistake its not 140. Its being deployed currently in the other 41. And that is more then the original psoter that started that debate that it was only in North America!
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You have to remember what AT&T's main goal is. That is to be the largest wireless carrier in the world, not just US.
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They actually own several stakes in Middle Eastern wireless companies. I know they own some in India for a fact, and I believe they have recently been trying to win a bid in Iraq (of all places).
It's been rumored that their latest target may be a Canadian telecom.
It's been rumored that their latest target may be a Canadian telecom.
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I think you missed the entire point of the commercial. They are NOT advertising international data usage, those are all cities or states within the United States, advertising data usage Nationwide, as in I need my phone to work at home in San Fran, vacation in Miami, and on business in New York. Therefore my phone works in SanFranIamiYork.
I can't believe all of you missed that.
I can't believe all of you missed that.
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no they say more places in the WORLD. i did not miss the point. ANd afopglej is not in the US!
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Are you dense? Your world, not the world. If I live in San Fran, that's my world. If I vacation in Miami, that's my world. If I do business in New York, that's my world. Combine those three places it's my world. Combine those three names you get the 'name' of my world, which I get service in. No **** it's not in the US.
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ohh I see there so clever. Leave it to att to say the US is the world. Oh wait not the WORLD but my little world. Oh please!
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http://goldenfiddle.com/node/8882 »
Check those out, it's all the current television ads. Two ads mention anywhere overseas. One of them lists one. The other lists two. That's it for international. All the other ads are strictly the United States.
Check those out, it's all the current television ads. Two ads mention anywhere overseas. One of them lists one. The other lists two. That's it for international. All the other ads are strictly the United States.
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Right, and the word in front of world is your, not the. Therefore they are referring to your world, where you use you phone. Not the world, that big sphere we live on. Get it? Cause I'm not sure how else to explain it.
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well maybe they should say more places nationwide then my world. When you say more places in the world and also include cities in other countries I tend to think of the big round ball!
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One commercial, they mentioned Prague and had someone speaking a foreign language
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And one later they mentioned England and another country, I corrected myself later. Three countries in two commercials. They do not mean coverage on earth. It's a play on words that I think almost everyone here missed.
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well if everyones missed then they missed their point to the people they need it to reach!
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wombough, move on. You obviously don't know too much about GSM/CDMA networks. Go back to the verizon forum and take some more training with your new job.
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They aren't advertising to people working for Verizon looking for flaws and misunderstandings in their ad campaign. They are looking to get their point across to the consumer, who all I've spoken with, understand. Most of my customers think it's hilarious. So in the end, you fail. You've achieved nothing in this thread. Every one of your points has been demolished. Face it, you can't argue fact.
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new job. Sorry I have the same one since 1994 that is I am a marine. I can care less about what you think or att or verizon. I just like to debate. But you fanboys do crack me up. You all should get a raise for being brainwashed lol. You know you need one!
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As a matter of fact I am getting paid right now. BTW- you suck at debating. You like to take nothing and try to prove it right. It helps if you have something to go off of.
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I am not taking nothing nor am I trying to prove anything. I think att fanboys are worse then verizons. I was debating. I made my point of view about the commercials. That was all. Everyone else turned it into something more!
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Your point of view was your own misunderstanding, which rather than admitting you continued to argue.
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no its not a misunderstanding when you see a billboard on I75 stating you can use att in more places like fahdjel. I don't know what it actually said because I didn't know were it was. So no it wasn't my misunderstanding. I simple said I am confuse why att puts a billboard in atlanta on I75 like that.
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