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What am I missing without the 800 gsm band?

kotto2

Dec 14, 2004, 7:50 AM
Hi all,
Just curious as to what I'm missing by not having the 800 band available on my phone. I have been using the SE t68 with Cingular for over 2 years now. Apparently this phone does not use GSM 800. I haven't had any real problems. I do encounter some dead spots now and then. Will my reception greatly improve if I move to a phone with GSM 800.

The main reason I'm asking is because I'm looking for a new phone.

Thanks in advance for any info on the subject.
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tnyflrs

Dec 14, 2004, 8:19 AM
The 800MHz phone will enable you to get better reception inside buildings as the smaller frequency waves are able to trespass easier than larger waves.

Since the smaller frequency waves can pass through denser objects the reception can also improve in areas where tall tress surround blocking antennas.

The 800MHz phone won't bring service to dead spot areas unless they are correlated to examples listed above.
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Bigbmc26

Dec 14, 2004, 8:51 AM
unless those dead spots are where our 850MHz towers are.
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Vox Dei

Dec 14, 2004, 10:17 AM
Funny. 800 MHz is a LARGER wave than 1900 MHz ;)
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paulbear78

Dec 14, 2004, 11:43 AM
800 MHZ
!\ /-----\ /-----\ !
! \ / \ / \ !
! \______/ \______/ \______/!

1900 MHZ

!\ /--\ /--\ /--\ /--\ !
! \ / \ / \ / \ / \ !
! \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \_!

the difference looks something like that 🙂
the waves happen more frequently. Hence frequency. Hence the cycle happens more times in a given period of time or MegaHertz.

if it were larger then we would be talking about bandwidth such as I have 1900MHZ - 1910MHZ of frequency or I have 10 MHZ of frequency.

But that does not mean you are incorrect, I know I havent seen anything saying one is better for certain obstacles than the...
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disturbed1

Dec 14, 2004, 11:59 AM
Since we're arguing about terminology, the 800MHz wave is actually referred to as a "LONGER" wave. It's kinda like wire gauges, the smaller the number the longer the wave.

As far as one performing better than the other.... physics dictates this. The longer the wave the less energy it carries, therefore it's less likely to rebound off of the obstacle. Less rebound means more penetration. That's why standard radio waves (modulated at between 88 and 100MHZ) seem to be able to go thru just about anything.

IT'S ALL ABOUT PENETRATION BABY!!! 😈 🤣
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paulbear78

Dec 14, 2004, 12:05 PM
hrmph.... forums took away the spaces in the lines how bout this way

800
_____/-----\______/------\______
1900
__/--\__/--\__/--\__/--\__/---

maybe that will explain it better. i wasnt arguing...

i came here for an argument not abuse. "monty python"
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Vox Dei

Dec 14, 2004, 12:43 PM
Not saying that your not right about the 800 Mhz being able to penitrate better (although i'm not sure why). The wavelenght it measure in distance between waives so the 800 MHZ is a longer wavelenght than the 1900 (less distance between waves). Maybe the 800 MHz uses a smaller amplitued (waves are shorter). Noone i've talked to has given me a valid answer to why 800 Mhz pentetrates better. I just know from experiance that it does.
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muchdrama

Dec 14, 2004, 12:23 PM
tnyflrs said:
The 800MHz phone will enable you to get better reception inside buildings as the smaller frequency waves are able to trespass easier than larger waves.

Since the smaller frequency waves can pass through denser objects the reception can also improve in areas where tall tress surround blocking antennas.

The 800MHz phone won't bring service to dead spot areas unless they are correlated to examples listed above.

But don't expect significant, "lead penetrating", super 800 mhz improvements. There is a slight advantage to the 800 mhz band's penetration of solid objects. But only slight. As for reception, no, you won't get better reception...but you might notice service in areas where you didn't...
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paulbear78

Dec 14, 2004, 12:55 PM
I would be a mucho happy person if I could penetrate lead! 🙂
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Vox Dei

Dec 14, 2004, 1:07 PM
You have tinted windows on your car don't you? They contain lead makes cell phones really tough to use in a car with tinted windows.
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Rich Brome

Dec 14, 2004, 3:38 PM
That depends on what area you are in and how much you travel.

If you are in an area that is 1900-only and you don't care about coverage when you leave town, then it's not an issue. Otherwise, it's probably a major issue.

If you are in an area with both bands, (lots of places,) then you could get much better coverage with an 800-capable phone.

And there are many parts of the country where the only coverage is 800. There are whole states your T68 won't work in at all because it lacks 800 MHz.
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